Eagle Shotgun?

[Ugly Sauce]

I wouldn't want the liability (plus I'm no machinist) but I would bet good machinist could make one of these on a lathe.

Truth. Could make one out of steel. !!! One thing I did notice while going down the rabbit hole for a short way, was that people posting problems with the Little Skeeters were with the 16 gauge to 20 gauge insert, which is very thin. The 20 to 410 and 12 to 410 have lots of meat one them. I'm thinking the 20 to 28 gauge ones must also be on the thin side. I didn't see any complaints about the 410 inserts.

Also, some of the stuff on target loads vs. game loads are saying the difference is in the quality of the components, and not pressure and velocity. ?

 

[Eutycus]

Do you think using inserts in a magnum chamber may raise a few eyebrows as far as liability or warranty may go? If such a case wound up in court a judge or jury, ignorant of just what "magnum" means in a shotgun, may be swayed. Some jury members are not exactly rocket scientists, but that seems to be what some attorneys are going for. Especially when going after members of the Firearm Industry.

 

[Eutycus]

Plus there is some but probably not a whole lot of difference in a 20 ga. and a .410 survival shotgun. In my case, going down to .410 from 20 ga. isn't a real necessity. But in the case of a 12 ga. to a .410 is a big step. Recoil is my main concern.Plus I already have several boxes of old slugs and buckshot in 20 ga.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

Do you think using inserts in a magnum chamber may raise a few eyebrows as far as liability or warranty may go? If such a case wound up in court a judge or jury, ignorant of just what "magnum" means in a shotgun, may be swayed. Some jury members are not exactly rocket scientists, but that seems to be what some attorneys are going for. Especially when going after members of the Firearm Industry.

Yes, both the defense and prosecution want jurors who are easy to "convince". Intelligence and reasoning are not desired by either. I have worked in and around the court system. Sad but true.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

Plus there is some but probably not a whole lot of difference in a 20 ga. and a .410 survival shotgun. In my case, going down to .410 from 20 ga. isn't a real necessity. But in the case of a 12 ga. to a .410 is a big step. Recoil is my main concern.Plus I already have several boxes of old slugs and buckshot in 20 ga.

Oh yeah, the inserts are a big plus for me, for a very specific purpose. For the small game I would encounter in a survival situation, the 410 is perfect, and it enables me to carry far more than I could 12 gauge shot shells, which is a heck of a lot of bang, bulk and weight for something like a grouse or squirrel. There's even quite a difference between 20 gauge and 410 shells, as far as bulk and weight, but I don't usually carry my 20, even though with Brenekke slugs I believe it is quite powerfull. But, I'd be at risk carrying a .410 for any kind of angry-animal defense. So they are of great value to me, not so much to anyone not deep into the bush-craft and survival thing. For more "casual" wilderness survival, half a dozen slug loads and half a dozen shot loads would be just fine, especially paired with a .22LR pistol.

 

[Eutycus]

Carrying all that lead is a factor. As I stated earlier "my trekking days are behind me". My pickup truck is my "pack mule" not me.I worry more about recoil than weight. A 20 ga. I can still handle, so far.