.45Coltguy
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"And I'm a .45 Colt fan. But I know .44 Magnum is the better of the two cartridges."
Truth!^^^
Truth!^^^
Anyone who thinks the .45Colt is more controllable, it's because they're comparing milquetoast 800fps loads to 1400fps loads that are more than double the pressure. Fact is the .45 isn't superior and wins no contests until it's ran at 50,000psi. At "Ruger only" levels, it's always 50-100fps behind in all bullet weights. I own more .45's than most .45 fans but there are a lot of myths surrounding the cartridge.I think popularity is waning for the .44, particularly the .44 Remington Magnum.
People who want a powerful, but pleasant to shoot, more easily controlled big-bore are finding the .45 Colt superior.
For those who need, or just want, absolute power there are several calibers to top the .44. .454 Casull, .460 S&W, .500 S&W, etc.; none of which existed in 1955.
The .44 magnum appealed at its inception to essentially two categories of people: Those who wanted it because it was, after all, "the most powerful handgun in the world and will blow your head clean off" [raising my hand; "guilty your honor] and those who hunt with a handgun or need it for protection against dangerous animals. When I was stationed in Alaska in the mid 70s very few people could scrape up enough money to buy one even if one could be found for sale.
Today it's in no man's land. It offers nothing over the .357 for defense against two legged vermin and for wow factor and pure power there are better choices.
you can shove everything into .460! maybe even .45 ACPThat's exactly how I feel about 460. That's like having a 444 pistol for 44mag. I appreciate versatility but the 38/357 45c/454 are the groups.
Thats what the .44spcl is for.Well, the .45 Colt is more controllable just because of the pressure you mentioned. Simple physics. I explained in my earlier posts why I like the .45 Colt. I do not hunt with handguns, so don't need all the power the .44 mag has. Those who use them, swell. I think Old_Grouch was referencing the same reason I like the .45 Colt, not saying the Colt is superior in performance levels as the .44 mag. That's what I think.
Probably so also.Thats what the .44spcl is for.
But why? If your going to drag something that heavy around it might as well have a butt stock on it.you can shove everything into .460! maybe even .45 ACP
Trigger Practice! I have a 4” with a giant comp and it’s a Earth Quake! I was thinking of putting .45 or light .45 Colt in the Mix of .460 and see how bad my flinch isBut why? If your going to drag something that heavy around it might as well have a butt stock on it.
Yup.... I have a diehard love for the .45 Colt. But the .44 Magnum smoke-checks it everyday of the week and twice on Sundays. The .45 Colt is a fantastic anti-personnel round. Accurate, has enough mass and speed to knock the horse from under a rider, and still not be discouraging in the recoil department. But for folks to compare .45 Colt to .44 Magnum is a disservice to both cartridges.Anyone who thinks the .45Colt is more controllable, it's because they're comparing milquetoast 800fps loads to 1400fps loads that are more than double the pressure. Fact is the .45 isn't superior and wins no contests until it's ran at 50,000psi. At "Ruger only" levels, it's always 50-100fps behind in all bullet weights. I own more .45's than most .45 fans but there are a lot of myths surrounding the cartridge.
There is literally no critter on the planet that can't be taken with the .44 and the right bullet.
I do hunt with handguns. But that isn't even the reason why I have both. My favorite magnum round is the .41 Magnum. But I have .44 Magnum because I just want it. I don't need a reason to own things. I just like it.Well, the .45 Colt is more controllable just because of the pressure you mentioned. Simple physics. I explained in my earlier posts why I like the .45 Colt. I do not hunt with handguns, so don't need all the power the .44 mag has. Those who use them, swell. I think Old_Grouch was referencing the same reason I like the .45 Colt, not saying the Colt is superior in performance levels as the .44 mag. That's what I think.
Exactly. Isn't that a bit like saying "well, yeah, a bowling ball is easier to lift than a wrecking ball only because it weighs less"?Anyone who thinks the .45Colt is more controllable, it's because they're comparing milquetoast 800fps loads to 1400fps loads
I agree. Nothing in my post disputes that.There is literally no critter on the planet that can't be taken with the .44 and the right bullet.
Are 44 Revolvers Dying?
Just curious, but how is the current production Blackhawk different from the old ones?Heck, even the current production Vaqueros and Blackhawks can't take those stout Ruger only loads.
That's because he demands honesty and so do I. That's why I call it the 43 mag.... it just so happens that every reason given for a 44 over a 41 makes me want a 41. If I could find a 41 in 6" in good shape I'd own it today. By the numbers a 454 is really a super mag, as all the rest are 40kpsi loadings, and if I could get am n frame 40kpsi 45, I'd be just as happy. The x frame is just to much.Clint Eastwood was so disgusted with .44 he moved up to the .45 in his later movies.
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Yup. You sure do trade a lot off in useability to get that extra 0.23" in diameter.That's because he demands honesty and so do I. That's why I call it the 43 mag.... it just so happens that every reason given for a 44 over a 41 makes me want a 41. If I could find a 41 in 6" in good shape I'd own it today. By the numbers a 454 is really a super mag, as all the rest are 40kpsi loadings, and if I could get am n frame 40kpsi 45, I'd be just as happy. The x frame is just to much.