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Join Date: February 23, 2005
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One last chance to stop this from getting to the Governator.
SB 357 (Dunn) is a bill that would require individual serial numbers to be etched on each and every handgun bullet sold in CA, down to AND INCLUDING .22LR. The bill PASSED from the Senate and is now in the Assembly Public Safety Committee. MAKE PHONE CALLS, WRITE LETTERS AND SEND EMAILS AND FAXES EVEN IF YOU DO NOT LIVE IN CA. IT IS PROVEN THAT LEGISLATION SPAWNED IN THIS COMMUNIST HELLHOLE WILL SPREAD TO OTHER STATES. CONTACT INFO FOR THE ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE: TELL THEM TO OPPOSE SB 357!!!!!! Mark Leno, Chair Dem-13 (916) 319-2013 Assemblymember.leno@assembly.ca.gov Jay La Suer, Vice Chair Rep-77 (916) 319-2077 Assemblymember.Lasuer@assembly.ca.gov Rebecca Cohn Dem-24 (916) 319-2024 Assemblymember.Cohn@assembly.ca.gov Mervyn M. Dymally Dem-52 (916) 319-2052 Assemblymember.dymally@assembly.ca.gov Jackie Goldberg Dem-45 (916) 319-2045 Assemblymember.Goldberg@assembly.ca.gov Todd Spitzer Rep-71 (916) 319-2071 Assemblymember.spitzer@assembly.ca.gov Committee phone: (916) 319-3744 Committee Email public.safety@assembly.ca.gov |
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Join Date: September 12, 2004
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Letters have been sent!
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Join Date: February 23, 2005
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Thank You!!!!!!!!
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Join Date: February 20, 2005
Location: CA
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Same here. I know Jay La Suer will vote against it, at least.
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Join Date: March 4, 2004
Location: Hidden Away in the East Bay, CA
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Letters sent, calls made, prayers for wisdom made.
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Join Date: April 22, 2003
Location: Nashua NH
Posts: 868
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Would now be an appropriate time
to bring up the Free State Project again? Come with me to New Hampshire. together we can do good things.
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Join Date: April 9, 2003
Location: California
Posts: 2,322
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Without a doubt, Leno, Cohn, Dymally, and Goldberg will vote for the bill.
~G. Fink
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Join Date: January 3, 2003
Location: SE Wisconsin
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I feel for you guys in California, good luck!
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Join Date: October 7, 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 1,464
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Thanks for the heads up.
Here is the letter I sent: STOP! Just stop what you are doing, forget the do gooding, and the children, and the puppies. You need to stop and listen to me. You are one of the last hopes that California gun owners have. You need to consider your vote on SB357 very carefully. SB357 will not prevent crime. People will still be shot, murders will still happen. Also, it is very questionable if SB357 will even help solve crime. It is just too easily defeated by anyone with premeditation. What SB357 is though, is a tremendous burden on gun owners. I and everyone else who owns a handgun will be horribly inconvenienced and also put at legal risk. How does the saying go? “Out law unmarked ammo and only criminals will have it.” How can you let simple possession without intent become a crime? If you want to make gun crime more punished, then please, by all means punish the criminals who commit it and not the law abiding gun owners. Use a gun in a crime? 20 years with no parole. Discharge a gun while committing a crime? 50 years with no parole. Injure, maim, or kill with a gun during a crime? Life without parole. Punish the ones who commit the crimes; don’t give me a felony if I happen to get caught with an unmarked bullet. If I do a crime, fine, hang me if you want, but punishing me for something that I happen to have on my person, that I do not plan on committing a crime with??? Come on. |
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Join Date: May 1, 2003
Location: Minnetonka, Minnesota
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It seems that California is approaching critical mass. Ammunition may end up being turned in minus the primers, powder, and case. Nobody wants a civil war, but I am afraid that a civil war/massive civil unrest is what it will take for the elected officials of California to realize that they have gone too far.
I hope it doesn't pass. |
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Join Date: May 28, 2005
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They went too far a long, long time ago.
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Join Date: February 23, 2005
Posts: 404
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Bump.
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Join Date: December 16, 2004
Location: Utah
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It seems clear to me that the state government of California is far past the letters of concerned citizens. There are not enough of those concerned citizens to change the political climate in the state. Jefferson once called for the blood of tyrants. While I am very afraid to see things come to that, I am more afraid of the alternative.
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Join Date: January 26, 2004
Location: CA
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blech. I really don't this this will become law, and even if it does will not result in 'civil war'. It is unenforceable on any practical level and will most assuredly result in massive civil disobedience. In other words, most California gunowners will quietly find ways to avoid compliance.
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I'm itching for a fight. Where do I sign up? I'll crash at Skunkabilly's
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Join Date: May 15, 2005
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Bttt
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Join Date: April 9, 2003
Location: California
Posts: 2,322
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~G. Fink, who has no intention to comply
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Join Date: February 23, 2005
Posts: 404
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Bump.
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Join Date: June 3, 2004
Location: The Copper Country, Michigan
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Riley and Fink are right. I doubt very much that this will cause a civil war.
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Join Date: December 24, 2002
Location: CA
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What I'm afraid of is that he'll veto SB357 and then sign AB352 in order to show he's "working with everyone." It wouldn't be much different than what he did re: signing the 50 ban but vetoing the ammo tax.
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Join Date: June 1, 2004
Location: Kalifornia
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Practicality and enforceability have nuthin to do with it. What happens is that it becomes just another law on the books to "pile on" to whatever the original reason for LE to look at you.
It becomes another success story for the potlickers and the brady bunch. If either one get to Arnold's desk, its a sign of our weakness. We'll be picked off one at a time for non related issues, after all, they are just doing their job. Amazing, Vick |
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Join Date: November 8, 2004
Location: Spring Hill, Florida
Posts: 4,440
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Remember that guy who got sent to jail for having 5 tracers on his property? He was raided for being a political nuisance in SoCal, but it was the BS tracer law that got him.
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Join Date: January 8, 2003
Location: Small-sky country, again
Posts: 1,955
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I hope for the best for you guys in Cali.
I hope common sense will prevail. If I owned a range in Cali I would be very afraid I might just be out-of-business for want of any product to sell if this law passed. I do know one thing. I don't live in Cali but if this passes I'll never buy another round of ammo from any manufacturer that agrees to participate in this outrage of a law by marketing ammo so marked. S-
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Join Date: February 23, 2005
Posts: 404
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Bump.
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Join Date: February 23, 2005
Posts: 404
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Nice to see so many people care.....
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