Altor ! Cheapest 9mm Productions gun

[21H40]

But I nor anyone said the altor was intended for self defense beyond snakes using snake shotshells.
The only reason I can think of to consider getting more than 1 is if they come out with another caliber like 22lr as I have like four or five 22lr silencers.
Pirate stuff is always cool. I have 2 cap muzzle loading pistols and 2 flint locks, taking them all to the range is always fun, cleaning them all after, not so much. A blackpowder muzzle loader would be superior to an altor for self defense as the pirate gun would pack more punch and could give an assistant a proper beating after it's fired.

Altor seems to think their pistols are designed for defense. That quote is from their website's FAQs.
... and that led down a new rabbit-hole of internet awesome. Check out this bandolier:

 

[N555]

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Altor seems to think their pistols are designed for defense. That quote is from their website's FAQs.
... and that led down a new rabbit-hole of internet awesome. Check out this bandolier:
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The context being posters on here. Companies are all about marketing and limiting liability.
For defense use a heritage rough rider and some cci ammo would be a better bet.
In factory form bullets fired from an altor tumble so hollow points are nearly useless and the recoil is so violent with factory ammo a bandolier or flashlight attached in such manor would likely be flung off as it appears to be made of elasti band. Unless they're a lot tougher than they look and are made of solid rubber.

 

[Mark_Mark]

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Altor seems to think their pistols are designed for defense. That quote is from their website's FAQs.
... and that led down a new rabbit-hole of internet awesome. Check out this bandolier:
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Didn’t realized this thread was rehassed!

I guest I should de a Range compare with the Thunder Struck!

 

[N555]

NICE!

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Lots of progress. Found that out of 3 factory barrels two 9mm and one 380, none stabilized a bullet.
I threaded the muzzles on the non threaded barrels for my no moving parts 9mm silencer.
Found the altor makes a really good trailer park welrod, aside from the bullets tumbling.
I pulled a shelved barrel rifling experiment from nearly 30 years ago and rifled the barrels now bullets fly straight. Cut groves about 3 thousands deep.
Developed 9mm silencer loads for the altor with nitro100nf making it about as quiet as a pellet gun.
Tested tested 90gr xtp vs 100gr berry's plated hollow point. Berry's were superior.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Lots of progress. Found that out of 3 factory barrels two 9mm and one 380, none stabilized a bullet.
I threaded the muzzles on the non threaded barrels for my no moving parts 9mm silencer.
Found the altor makes a really good trailer park welrod, aside from the bullets tumbling.
I pulled a shelved barrel rifling experiment from nearly 30 years ago and rifled the barrels now bullets fly straight. Cut groves about 3 thousands deep.
Developed 9mm silencer loads for the altor with nitro100nf making it about as quiet as a pellet gun.
Tested tested 90gr xtp vs 100gr berry's plated hollow point. Berry's were superior.

you re-barreled the Altor! I was going to have the Factory barrel threaded for suppressor but The tumbling bullet issue scares me. You have photos of your work?

 

[21H40]

Altor talks about the tumbling on their website. They mention that tumbling is normal for their pistols. Apparently they use four shallow "micro-grooves" instead of SAAMI's six. At "self-defense" range, the tumbling is not supposed to be a problem.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Altor talks about the tumbling on their website. They mention that tumbling is normal for their pistols. Apparently they use four shallow "micro-grooves" instead of SAAMI's six. At "self-defense" range, the tumbling is not supposed to be a problem.

Don’t use that gun for self defense! it’s just a novelty item for poop & giggles! something you take to the private range with friends when shooting gets stale. Like, put $5 in the hat, who ever can shoot closer to the center wins the pot

 

[21H40]

Don’t use that gun for self defense! it’s just a novelty item for poop & giggles! something you take to the private range with friends when shooting gets stale. Like, put $5 in the hat, who ever can shoot closer to the center wins the pot

I don't like to have fewer than 15 rounds available for self defense. I can only imagine having to wear a trench coat with specially fitted Altor holders. Something like this, but replace the watches with pistols:

 

[Mark_Mark]

I don't like to have fewer than 15 rounds available for self defense. I can only imagine having to wear a trench coat with specially fitted Altor holders. Something like this, but replace the watches with pistols:
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I wonder if hand loading 9mm round ball would help the tumbling???? hummm

 

[N555]

Altor talks about the tumbling on their website. They mention that tumbling is normal for their pistols. Apparently they use four shallow "micro-grooves" instead of SAAMI's six. At "self-defense" range, the tumbling is not supposed to be a problem.

My rifling ain't saami spec either but it actually works.

Don’t use that gun for self defense! it’s just a novelty item for poop & giggles! something you take to the private range with friends when shooting gets stale. Like, put $5 in the hat, who ever can shoot closer to the center wins the pot

For me the altor is a sub $500 welrod all in. Where the real welrod is over $2,200 with the tax stamp, last time I checked.
I would consider mine "pest control".

you re-barreled the Altor! I was going to have the Factory barrel threaded for suppressor but The tumbling bullet issue scares me. You have photos of your work?

I didn't re barrel it, I rammed a rifling broach I made in the 1990s down the barrel with a hydraulic press. I tried a few times to take pictures of the barrel but they come out looking like poop.
The bullets don't appear to yaw untill around 3 feet away from the muzzle.
If you have a "45cal silencer" don't worry about it. If you have a "9mm silencer" I would wouldn't want to use one longer than a foot long. I shot a bunch of tumbling bullets in my 6 inch long 9mm silencer and no sign of a baffel or end cap contact.
If you send me a barrel, enough money for return shipping I'll rifle your barrel too, if it's not threaded and you want it threaded mmm add $30 as I found the altor barrel very easy to thread.

 

[Mark_Mark]

My rifling ain't saami spec either but it actually works.


For me the altor is a sub $500 welrod all in. Where the real welrod is over $2,200 with the tax stamp, last time I checked.
I would consider mine "pest control".


I didn't re barrel it, I rammed a rifling broach I made in the 1990s down the barrel with a hydraulic press. I tried a few times to take pictures of the barrel but they come out looking like poop.
The bullets don't appear to yaw untill around 3 feet away from the muzzle.
If you have a "45cal silencer" don't worry about it. If you have a "9mm silencer" I would wouldn't want to use one longer than a foot long. I shot a bunch of tumbling bullets in my 6 inch long 9mm silencer and no sign of a baffel or end cap contact.
If you send me a barrel, enough money for return shipping I'll rifle your barrel too, if it's not threaded and you want it threaded mmm add $30 as I found the altor barrel very easy to thread.

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[Walkalong]

No suppressor yet?

 

[Mark_Mark]

No suppressor yet?

working with one of the members here to have it threaded and extra rifling. Someone already did the research to stabilize the bullet !

got 2 suppressor and a 45/70 one on the way

 

[N555]

Snek test.
Me personally I like snakes. If I'm close enough to shoot a sneke I would probably just catch it.
The first test is an amed shot from about 1yd, a shot like that, you're about to step on it. You basically get a 1 inch wide bullet, the shot capsule and/or wad alone would probably be deadly to a snake at 1yd.
The second shot I wanted to see how much spread there was at 3yd so I made an X up by the corner and blasted it. At 3yd, no matter how I place the shot, I bet all the shot wouldn't fit on that piece of cardboard paper, but a snake would be full of all kinds of holes. Yeah it's like a beach ball size pattern at 3yd.