grampajack
AR Junkie
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I get what RPZ is trying to say. All he's doing is pointing out that someone lying to the police is not an issue confined solely to open carry, and that carrying a firearm in general is always associated with the risk of someone misrepresenting your use of said firearm, or lack thereof, when making a statement to the police.
So it would be more accurate to say that open carry increases your exposure, and therefore your risk of having this happen, rather than bringing a new risk to the table that is not already associated with carrying a gun in general. And as Creaky_Old_Cop pointed out, this is a relatively rare occurrence anyways.
It's also worth noting that this risk is associated with concealed carry even if you don't draw the gun. For example, let's say someone knows you carry, and for whatever reason that person has a beef with you. Or a Brady Bunch social justice warrior sees your NRA shirt, decal, etc., or you simply look the type, and they phone in an anonymous tip. I for one can also usually tell if someone is carrying if they're wearing light clothing, so there's always that risk, as well, that even if you're carrying concealed someone will be able to detect your piece from your wardrobe, your gun printing, etc. While the average person might not recognize Sneaky Pete, fake pagers, and tacticool brands like 5.11, if you're using those means to conceal your gun it's not a far reach to say that you're a stone's throw away from open carry already.
Again, I realize that open carry increases your exposure, but I don't think that's a valid argument against it. Unless you also want to include NRA decals and Sneaky Pete holsters. I for one will never have an NRA decal, or wear clothing with prominent gun branding. But that's a personal choice I make, one which some would call paranoid, and they have a right to their opinion.
I would also submit that this issue is not limited to guns. There are lots of ways one can find themselves a target. Wearing fur, wearing things associated with political parties and candidates, having campaign signs in your yard, bumper stickers on your truck, etc. are all things that can make a person a target. I would argue that wearing a Trump T shirt has more risk than open carrying right now.
So it would be more accurate to say that open carry increases your exposure, and therefore your risk of having this happen, rather than bringing a new risk to the table that is not already associated with carrying a gun in general. And as Creaky_Old_Cop pointed out, this is a relatively rare occurrence anyways.
It's also worth noting that this risk is associated with concealed carry even if you don't draw the gun. For example, let's say someone knows you carry, and for whatever reason that person has a beef with you. Or a Brady Bunch social justice warrior sees your NRA shirt, decal, etc., or you simply look the type, and they phone in an anonymous tip. I for one can also usually tell if someone is carrying if they're wearing light clothing, so there's always that risk, as well, that even if you're carrying concealed someone will be able to detect your piece from your wardrobe, your gun printing, etc. While the average person might not recognize Sneaky Pete, fake pagers, and tacticool brands like 5.11, if you're using those means to conceal your gun it's not a far reach to say that you're a stone's throw away from open carry already.
Again, I realize that open carry increases your exposure, but I don't think that's a valid argument against it. Unless you also want to include NRA decals and Sneaky Pete holsters. I for one will never have an NRA decal, or wear clothing with prominent gun branding. But that's a personal choice I make, one which some would call paranoid, and they have a right to their opinion.
I would also submit that this issue is not limited to guns. There are lots of ways one can find themselves a target. Wearing fur, wearing things associated with political parties and candidates, having campaign signs in your yard, bumper stickers on your truck, etc. are all things that can make a person a target. I would argue that wearing a Trump T shirt has more risk than open carrying right now.