Black Powder Guns on eBay

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Lately I noticed a few complete black powder guns being sold on eBay.
Not many and they're few and far between.
The one that first drew my attention was an older Traditions Tracker .54 inline, nickeled with a 1 in 48" twist and a #11 nipple.
It was in nice shape and ended up selling for about $175 with active bidding.
I thought that maybe eBay had let a complete gun slip through their system.

I've also seen one seller's ad for new complete Lyman Plains Pistol kits, and he has more than one.

And then there's the very old antique muzzle loaders that are being sold intact rather than being parted out.

It seems that 99.9% of the black powder gun ads on eBay are for guns with at least some parts removed which the seller's state is done in order to comply with eBay's rules and gun sale policy.

I can only imagine that eBay is letting some complete gun auctions be listed intentionally since the ads are left up until completion of the auction.
But perhaps some gun auctions are being caught and stopped?

Among the other items that I've noticed for sale on eBay are cast lead bullets by a dealer that used to sell on the GunAction website.
I noticed after his few ads were gone that new ones didn't come back up but not sure why.
I've seen some other lots of old muzzle loading bullets but not very many.
Perhaps their rules are relaxed a bit for black powder items since simply typing bullets in the eBay search box doesn't bring up any results.

Also an occasional full tin or two of percussion caps being sold as collectibles.
Most cap ads are only for empty tins, but a few have been listed as being sealed and full.

eBay is also allowing air guns to be sold again.
Since I hadn't looked at eBay very much for a time, when I see changes it's a surprise.

Has anyone else noticed any of these black powder gun sale ads or are as surprised as I was to hear about them on eBay?
I guess it shows that eBay can slowly change with the times and isn't as rigid as they could be.
 
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Has anyone else noticed any of these black powder gun sale ads or are as surprised as I was to hear about them on eBay?
I guess it shows that eBay can slowly change with the times and isn't as rigid as they could be.

I noticed a while back that while you didn't see whole, black powder guns, if you looked up barrels, when the entire barrel-assembly was being sold, ramrod and all..., if you looked at the seller's "see other items" you often found the stock with the rest of the hardware. So you had to "win" two auctions, but you could buy the parts and assemble them when they arrived. (Assuming the seller didn't allow you to "combine" your auction, shipping both winning items together, and oh look...the seller was nice enough to assemble them for ease of packing. ;))

Now, for example, I find a certain barrel assembly that I would like to own IF...., it was part of a whole sidelock rifle, offered by a guy in Ohio. I also found the correct stock with all of the hardware being offered by a different guy located in Virginia. Neither guy offers the remaining parts to complete the rifle. Now, since it's up to the seller to list where they live, I wonder if these two sellers don't actually live pretty close, or perhaps are the same seller using two different emails to form eBay accounts, and when they are paid via PayPal, who can say where the actual seller resides. Shipping is estimated from where they claim, and how many folks are going to double check the actual shipping location was in the same town as the seller's online address ???

So eBay's system is probably not fool proof by any means.

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You can get away with it for a bit. I sold two flintlock pistol kits for good prices. Then I got the expected cease and desist letter from eBay.

Thanks Denster.
That's what I was wondering about.
It's disappointing to see so many guns and kits parted out when they could be put back into service much easier by simply removing only the nipple and selling them 99% intact.

As a side note, I think that Bob Hoyt is keeping busy re-rifling old or neglected Thompson Center barrels to .54 and .58 caliber.
A lot of people seem to be posting about sending him barrels to work on.
The one below had a fast twist with shallow rifling that the owner wanted changed to a slow twist to shoot PRB's.

It's a 21" TC Tree Hawk barrel that Hoyt re-rifled from .50 to .54 with round bottom 7 groove rifling and a 1 in 60" twist.

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I did a quick search and found folks selling 140 gr., .357 caliber "airgun pellets." Even pre-lubed!

Can't complain with that. Their prices are pretty high though.
 
I’ve noticed barrels being sold now. For most of eBays existence they never allowed shotgun barrels for sale. Now you can get 10/22 barrels shotgun barrels etc.
 
I noticed a while back that while you didn't see whole, black powder guns, if you looked up barrels, when the entire barrel-assembly was being sold, ramrod and all..., if you looked at the seller's "see other items" you often found the stock with the rest of the hardware. So you had to "win" two auctions, but you could buy the parts and assemble them when they arrived.
I've noticed that before. However, the combined prices of all the parts often exceeds what you would pay for a complete gun from another source. The incentive for "parting out" a gun in this way, and selling it on ebay, is that the seller gets more money than when selling it conventionally.

Another "trick" is not to have the description match the pictures. For example, ebay has a 10-round limit for magazines. The description may say that a pistol magazine is a 10-rounder, but the picture clearly shows, for example, a 15-rounder. Likewise, a "barrel" may be seen, from the picture, to really be a barreled action. AR-15 parts are often misidentified as "airsoft" parts. The ebay censors are apparently not that knowledgeable about guns.

The sharp-eyed may congratulate themselves for getting what they are not supposed to be getting. However, they have no recourse if they end up not getting what they think they should be getting. Ebay will not go to bat for a buyer in a listing that attempts to circumvent the rules. In other words the whole transaction is risky for both the buyer and the seller.
 
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As a Costitutionalist I firmly believe that we need to get as many firearms into as many hands as we can.. NOW... While we still can. The comparatively low number of "bad" hands will quickly sort ITSELF out, as it has always done... But the REALLY bad people are attempting to outright rob us ALL of our freedoms, our liberties and indeed our God given RIGHTS that they have no RIGHT to...

For that reason alone I am totally convinced that EVERY American should put his hands on EVERY firearm he or she is able to now... You will NOT be able to later.

I think we should STOP drawing attention to free Americans practicing GOD GIVEN RIGHTS while we still have the chance...

JMHO...
 
As a Costitutionalist I firmly believe that we need to get as many firearms into as many hands as we can.. NOW... While we still can. The comparatively low number of "bad" hands will quickly sort ITSELF out, as it has always done... But the REALLY bad people are attempting to outright rob us ALL of our freedoms, our liberties and indeed our God given RIGHTS that they have no RIGHT to...

For that reason alone I am totally convinced that EVERY American should put his hands on EVERY firearm he or she is able to now... You will NOT be able to later.

I think we should STOP drawing attention to free Americans practicing GOD GIVEN RIGHTS while we still have the chance...

JMHO...

I agree with you up until the last sentence.
In some forums folks aren't even allowed to talk about eBay auctions or guns for sale by "non-brick and mortar stores" such as Facebook group pages.
Folks on this black powder gun forum come here to promote their 2A rights in a non-hostile environment among other 2A supporters.

I thought by directing a little more attention to the eBay subject we can better help the 2A and each other by seeing how a big business treats us.
The new Traditions Buckstalker rifle for sale on eBay that I posted about last night would cost $219 delivered to your door.
At Muzzle loaders dot com that same rifle would cost $221 including shipping, right now today.
That shows that eBay is still able to offer some bargains and be competitive, which helps promote the 2A and the BP shooting sports.
That's more than I can say for Amazon, I don't see them offering black powder guns at all and that's where many of our youth go internet shopping.

Kids today don't receive mail order catalogs like many of us did back in our day, to be able to look at all kinds of different guns for sale.
And the last that I knew, 18 year olds still needed to register for the selective service.
Aren't we here in part to help guide a new generation of BP gun lovers or are we going to let the anti-people and websites dictate what's in our national interest?
We need to keep growing despite any storm clouds brewing and not hide what freedom & BP shooting is all about.
Enjoy & celebrate the path that eBay has chosen to follow.
They're testing their own waters and trying to survive in a hostile environment.
We should help to draw attention to them in an effort to be supportive.
It's become an invaluable source of scarce gun parts for millions of people again.
 
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And I would also agree with you arcticap... In a "normal" time and place.

The problem today is that there are SO many communists who hate us, our nation and all the principles that we where founded upon SO much, that they are no longer simply acting STUPID, they are acting AGAINST. I would imagine that at LEAST as many people reading this are against us, as there are actual members... Possibly more. They are out scouring the internet, facebook, twitter, etc all day, every day (easy to do when you refuse to work! LoL) in search of JUST such topics as these.. So that they can run screaming to Uncle Sugar and Mama Nannystate (That of course includes the heads of Ebay) as fast as they can, and have these sort of things shut down.

No, its not a cowardly stance Im taking here.. Its a pragmatic one. I greatly appreciate the heads up, dont get me wrong, but if we give the same heads up to the enemies of decency, liberty and freedom... Well, we will soon find the topic closed, as it will simply be gone in a flash...

Just HOW we could discuss matters such as these, without alerting those who would destroy everything we stand for... Well, I sadly have no idea outside of PM which probably wouldnt include everybody...

OPSEC's all Im saying bro... OPSEC..
 
I’ve noticed barrels being sold now. For most of eBays existence they never allowed shotgun barrels for sale. Now you can get 10/22 barrels shotgun barrels etc.
Actually back in the 90's they allowed barrel sales, I got the set for my DW 357Max. pictured> Pawn shop find with only the 8" barrel..Sadly I missed out on the 4"a few yrs later, it went for more than I paid for all the others total. The 4" was the shortest they made for the SuperMags.
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There's a brand new Cerakote Traditions Buckstalker on eBay selling for $155.00 plus $9.77 shipping that's ending in 28 minutes with 6 bids.
What a good deal that someone will get if it sells for that price.--->>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Traditions...arrel-inline-50-Cal-muzzleloader/283409531569

eBay item number: 283409531569

That's the same gun that Muzzle-loaders dot com is selling for $221.00 shipped.

It ended up selling for $164.00 + $9.77 shipping = $173.77 with 7 bids.
 
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It was there and now its gone so I guess someone IS watching the BP section of Ebay for firearms.
For those who missed it, it was a Pietta cartridge conversion with a loading slot machined into the right shield.
The auction title said it was 9mm "something" that might have been a misspelling/alternative language of "kurtz." (.380)
Sorry I did not grab some pictures.:cuss:
That means they don't allow complete cartridge conversions.
Does it also mean that they are OK with complete Flint and Cap&Ball guns since those are all still up???
 
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That ad was pulled within a few hours after being posted here.
The link wouldn't work for me a few hours later and then I searched all of the Pietta ads to try to see what it was.
When I couldn't find it, I wished that folks would post auction numbers as an alternative method to search. :D
 
It was there and now its gone so I guess someone IS watching the BP section of Ebay for firearms.
For those who missed it, it was a Pietta cartridge conversion with a loading slot machined into the right shield.
The auction title said it was 9mm "something" that might have been a misspelling/alternative language of "kurtz." (.380)
Sorry I did not grab some pictures.:cuss:
That means they don't allow complete cartridge conversions.
Does it also mean that they are OK with complete Flint and Cap&Ball guns since those are all still up???

It was a brass frame Pietta 1860 blank firing revolver in 9mm knall.

https://www.henrykrank.com/guns/blank-firers/pietta-blank-firers.html
https://www.henrykrank.com/guns/bla...a-colt-1860-army-brass-frame-blank-firer.html
 
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