Alright, "Metrics"... Talk Me Out of THIS One - Please!

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You know all y'all are lousy at this.

This rifle...

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...in this configuration, in 6.5x55 SE, w/ the NECG Ruger Aperture Sight?

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...is pulling so hard... it's affecting the Tides.



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I can’t talk you out of it. And Lipseys has some nice firearms. Can anyone purchase from them? Or is it FFL holders only? I’ve seen a few on there I’m interested in.
 
I bought one of these a few months ago. It is the fourth 6.5 caliber rifle in my collection (1 .260 Rem, 1 6.5 Creedmoor, and 2 6.5x55SEs, both Rugers). It is a great caliber as bullets have high BCs and SDs, can be loaded up on modern firearms (like my Ruger No. 1 and my Ruger 77 African. Now I'm a sucker for classic calibers (I have a beautiful Win M70 with Grade III wood and glossy blued metal in 7x57, though I bought some Hornady brass in .275 Rigby just because...) and I have a nice wood and blue rifle in .300 H&H. I admit to enjoying the writing of Robert Ruark and, occasionally, I have been known to say things like "Who was that guy, 'Karamoja' Bell, and he did what with a .275 Rigby?"

The Ruger African is a beautiful rifle that I would have preferred in 7x57 or 9.3x62 (I spent last night trying to find one through Lipsey's). I have a beautiful Ruger 77RSI in .308 Win but I'd trade it in a heartbeat for a 7x57 in the same rifle. I love high grade wood, nicely finished blued metal, 100+ year-old calibers (I recently sold my .375 H&H Magnum because I don't like being punished by recoil), and bolt actions and double rifles. I just saw a Karl Gustav 1896 6.5 Swewde on Sunday at my local Cabela's...it may well follow me home if I set out a bowl of milk and a warm blanket (heh, heh...). Young guys always seem to go for MSRs and EBRs...I go for the arms used by my father's and gran'ther's generation. That's why I like assault rifles like the 1860 Henry, the 1873 Springfield Trapdoor, the .30-40 Krag, the 1903, the M1 Garand and the M14 (all of which I've had the privilege of shooting). Old school may bore the young but it's fun for the old farts.
 
Garandimal said:
The reports are - some of these rifles are bug-holing handloads at 100 yards.

I would settle for that.

:D




GR
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I don't have enough money to settle for "some."

and how they don't make it in 7x57 first is unbelievable.

>>> Check that, they made the .275 Rigby. My bad.
 
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Only knock I would have against it is the weight. 7.5 pounds + a scope would start putting it on the heavy side for packing around IMO.

Other than that, can't beat that with a stick.
 
Flatbush Harry said:
I bought one of these a few months ago. It is the fourth 6.5 caliber rifle in my collection (1 .260 Rem, 1 6.5 Creedmoor, and 2 6.5x55SEs, both Rugers). It is a great caliber as bullets have high BCs and SDs, can be loaded up on modern firearms (like my Ruger No. 1 and my Ruger 77 African. Now I'm a sucker for classic calibers (I have a beautiful Win M70 with Grade III wood and glossy blued metal in 7x57, though I bought some Hornady brass in .275 Rigby just because...) and I have a nice wood and blue rifle in .300 H&H. I admit to enjoying the writing of Robert Ruark and, occasionally, I have been known to say things like "Who was that guy, 'Karamoja' Bell, and he did what with a .275 Rigby?"

The Ruger African is a beautiful rifle that I would have preferred in 7x57 or 9.3x62 (I spent last night trying to find one through Lipsey's). I have a beautiful Ruger 77RSI in .308 Win but I'd trade it in a heartbeat for a 7x57 in the same rifle. I love high grade wood, nicely finished blued metal, 100+ year-old calibers (I recently sold my .375 H&H Magnum because I don't like being punished by recoil), and bolt actions and double rifles. I just saw a Karl Gustav 1896 6.5 Swewde on Sunday at my local Cabela's...it may well follow me home if I set out a bowl of milk and a warm blanket (heh, heh...). Young guys always seem to go for MSRs and EBRs...I go for the arms used by my father's and gran'ther's generation. That's why I like assault rifles like the 1860 Henry, the 1873 Springfield Trapdoor, the .30-40 Krag, the 1903, the M1 Garand and the M14 (all of which I've had the privilege of shooting). Old school may bore the young but it's fun for the old farts.
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Have .270's, so the 7x57 didn't pull at me.

But a 6.5 field rifle, though, has a spot in the freezer.

Have some Arisaka's in 6.5 and 7mm, but no field rifles.




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Irons on a slow twist 223 527Lux.... Cast 55g @2600fps. Just trying to help. 20190403_105847.jpg
 
Well...

I have to say - all y'all are pathetic.

One would have thought that a simple task like this one could have been performed by a group of little yellow school bus children - much less the core and backbone of the online hunting/shooting community.

Greatly disappointed.

It will be here in a few wks.

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So, if all y'all will excuse me, I now have to go order a NECG RUGER Rear Aperture sight.

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Just pathetic...

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Sorry we have failed you.

For punishment I look to see some load workups and an rifle evaluation coming from you in the near future.

That'll teach us!
 
Garandimal said:
Well...

I have to say - all y'all are pathetic.

One would have thought that a simple task like this one could have been performed by a group of little yellow school bus children - much less the core and backbone of the online hunting/shooting community.

Greatly disappointed.

It will be here in a few wks.



So, if all y'all will excuse me, I now have to go order a NECG RUGER Rear Aperture sight.



Just pathetic...

:D




GR
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I'm surprised it took you so long.....:what::neener:
 
Garandimal said:
Well...

I have to say - all y'all are pathetic.

One would have thought that a simple task like this one could have been performed by a group of little yellow school bus children - much less the core and backbone of the online hunting/shooting community.

Greatly disappointed.

It will be here in a few wks.



So, if all y'all will excuse me, I now have to go order a NECG RUGER Rear Aperture sight.



Just pathetic...

:D




GR
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You'll have no regrets...except for the urge to buy a matching 9.3x62 model next, then track down a 275 Rigby version while you're waiting for next year's version...
 
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You'll have no regrets...except for the urge to buy a matching 9.3x62 model next, then track down a 275 Rigby version while you're waiting for next year's version...
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Thanks.

Funny, can't see that (medium game) rifle in any other chamberings but 6.5x55mm Swede and 7x57mm Mauser.

And, at that, to me, only the 6.5x55 was appealing.

So next year's offering is intriguing.

This rifle is replacing a mule-kickin' sporterized SC '03-A3 Springfield that I gave to my brother, and was my highpower aperture sighted bolt rifle.




GR
 
Garandimal said:
Very nice.

What is your bullet and load data?

If that's a good 140 gr hunting bullet, sounds like you're done.

Think the cartridge really lends itself to a 24" Bbl., where the .270 can get by w/ the 22".




GR
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Lapua brass
WLR primer
IMR4350
Nosler 142 ABLR
Pac-nor barrel

Not near my reloading book to give you charge weight.

Used this load to take 3 whitetail, 1 fallow doe and 3 axis this year. Not to mention the one coyote that was dumb enough to show up one day.
 
Bbear said:
Lapua brass
WLR primer
IMR4350
Nosler 142 ABLR
Pac-nor barrel

Not near my reloading book to give you charge weight.

Used this load to take 3 whitetail, 1 fallow doe and 3 axis this year. Not to mention the one coyote that was dumb enough to show up one day.
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That would make sense.

Case capacity/Bore area (C/B^2):

270 Win: 3493
6.5x55: 3323

Given the 24" Bbl., and since I have IMR 4831 on hand from the .270, will probably start w/ that.

A bugholin' 140 gr. at 2800 fps is my goal.


"Pathetic..."

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GR
 
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Beautiful rifle. I love the traditional oil finished stock look & especially those "African" models with the open sights & barrel swivel. But aren't those "African" dangerous game cannons supposed to be chambered in 375 H&H. 458 Win or some other huge beast destroyer like that?
 
Garandimal said:
That would make sense.

Case capacity/Bore area (C/B^2):

270 Win: 3493
6.5x55: 3323

Given the 24" Bbl., and since I have IMR 4831 on hand from the .270, will probably start w/ that.

A bugholin' 140 gr. at 2800 fps is my goal.


"Pathetic..."




GR
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Dang, that's a purdy thang!

My Tikka T3 Hunter in 6.5x55 likes the 140 gr. Bergers with IMR4831 and CCI 200 primers stuffed into Lapua cases. 2783 f.p.s. 5 rounds into 1-1/4" at 200 meters. 3 1/4" at 500 meters, under ideal conditions.
 
Bbear said:
Lapua brass
WLR primer
IMR4350
Nosler 142 ABLR
Pac-nor barrel

Not near my reloading book to give you charge weight.

Used this load to take 3 whitetail, 1 fallow doe and 3 axis this year. Not to mention the one coyote that was dumb enough to show up one day.
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Poper said:
Dang, that's a purdy thang!

My Tikka T3 Hunter in 6.5x55 likes the 140 gr. Bergers with IMR4831 and CCI 200 primers stuffed into Lapua cases. 2783 f.p.s. 5 rounds into 1-1/4" at 200 meters. 3 1/4" at 500 meters, under ideal conditions.
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Will start w/ 140 gr. Speer Hot-Cor for load development - as NP's of the same wt. for the field usually swap in nicely w/ essentially the same POI.

Speer also brought out a 140 gr. Grand Slam, and want to try if I can find some.


Was considering getting a case of PPU 140 gr. SP ($0.70/rd.) as blasting/break-in ammo - and then reloading the cases.

Have had good luck w/ .270 and 30-06.

Annealed necks and fire-formed cases, which isn't a problem as this is my only Bbl. in 6.5x55mm.

Plan on neck resizing only.


For me, would the Lapua brass be worth the trouble and expense?




GR
 
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Garandimal said:
For me, would the Lapua brass be worth the trouble and expense?
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I dunno. I have 6 firings on Lapua cases without losing any yet to split necks, insipient case head separation or enlarged primer pockets. But then, I do not load near the top end, either.
I also have a couple hundered Hornady cases and they are very good quality, too. But I like to weigh my cases and match them with in +/- .5 grains. So far, I have found Hornady has a much greater weight variance than the Lapua. Will it make a measurable difference in your load performance? Maybe. If you are a competition shooter. Otherwise, you probably won't notice the difference. I like the Hornady cases and use them for hunting and practice. If you are not a competition shooter, I say try 'em all and see what you like for the perfomance / price point sweet spot that satisfys you.

Interesting thing about the Speer bullets: I worked up a load in my Tikka .30-06 with the Hot Cor 165 grain. It will shoot as well as the Hornady 165 grain SP and considerably better than the Nosler 156 grain partition. I gave up on Speer's quality about 20 years ago and only recently revisited them because they were about 1/2 the price of the Sierra and Honady offerings. I'm not totally convinced yet, and have a couple hundred 140 grain HotCor 6.5mm to try in my 6.5x55's.
We'll see.
 
Garandimal said:
Will start w/ 140 gr. Speer Hot-Cor for load development - as NP's of the same wt. for the field usually swap in nicely w/ essentially the same POI.

Speer also brought out a 140 gr. Grand Slam, and want to try if I can find some.


Was considering getting a case of PPU 140 gr. SP ($0.70/rd.) as blasting/break-in ammo - and then reloading the cases.

Have had good luck w/ .270 and 30-06.

Annealed necks and fire-formed cases, which isn't a problem as this is my only Bbl. in 6.5x55mm.

Plan on neck resizing only.


For me, would the Lapua brass be worth the trouble and expense?




GR
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You'll likely need look no further than IMR 4350 or 4831 to make those sing pretty music. To really do that rifle justice with irons, pick up some Hornady 160 or Norma Oryx 156 RN cruise missiles for the classic load in 6.5. And PRVI brass in this caliber is good stuff. I shoot and win matches with it in an M96, as well as a K-31 in 7, 5 Swiss, so good enough brass for me, probably for you as well.
 
Random 8 said:
You'll likely need look no further than IMR 4350 or 4831 to make those sing pretty music. To really do that rifle justice with irons, pick up some Hornady 160 or Norma Oryx 156 RN cruise missiles for the classic load in 6.5. And PRVI brass in this caliber is good stuff. I shoot and win matches with it in an M96, as well as a K-31 in 7, 5 Swiss, so good enough brass for me, probably for you as well.
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Read where the classic 156-160 gr. load came about due to a combination of large med. game hunting regulations and weak factory loadings.

Regs require 2000 Joules (1475 lb-ft) at 100 meters (110 yds), and the factory fodder in 140 couldn't cut it.

Where as a 140 gr. NP at 2740 fps has ~ 2700 J at that range, and ~ 2850 J at 2800 fps.

Different animal all together.

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