Glock 19 is best handgun ?

Glock, Colt, or Sig Sauer?

  • Glock

    Votes: 44 53.0%
  • Colt

    Votes: 5 6.0%
  • Sig Sauer

    Votes: 24 28.9%
  • All three

    Votes: 10 12.0%

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I believe the OP was asking about best overall in the category he was asking about.

I’m thinking your 45ACP, as good as it is, doesn’t fit into his category.

Yes thank you for clarifying. Guess It's my fault for not clarifying soon enough, although I did post that I was referring to overall category for mid-caliber guns, and said that specifics come after a gun, not before it.
 
I am presently in a church security class, 8 weeks or so. Saturday we did the third week which was gun fighter class., too much to get into now. So the whole question of what's the best gun comes down to "for what purpose". The scenarios we went through showed ME that maybe my carry gun, which I carry 98% of the time,XDE 9mm, may not be best for defensive situations. The XDE is double/single action, the first shot is long and slows response to reacting to a bad guy. My Glock 19,striker fire, quicker follow up but harder to conceal, more rounds,etc. Most defensive situations happen in 3 ft.- 7yds. and like 6 rds or so and a couple of seconds. So what's best, you tell me. I'm rethinking my carry weapon, leaning towards an XD9 subcompact. For me too small is a problem. It was a real eye opener, one last thing was we didn't use any sights except for head shots. So all this putting night sights etc. is a waste you won't be lining up anything.


At New Life Church Jeanne Assam emptied her Berretta 92 (or whatever they call the civilian M9) into Matthew Murray and he was still able to take his own life. I don't carry less than 15 rounds and 2 reloads for church security.
 
I didn't vote. There is nothing wrong with G19, but Sig, Ruger, H&K, FNH, S&W, CZ, Walther, Beretta.....all make models of identical parameters to compete with it. Just another tool. To me the choice would pretty much be what is on sale.
 
I didn't vote. There is nothing wrong with G19, but Sig, Ruger, H&K, FNH, S&W, CZ, Walther, Beretta.....all make models of identical parameters to compete with it. Just another tool. To me the choice would pretty much be what is on sale.
On the other hand, there are a lot more Glock compatible accessories than for most other similar guns out there.
 
Glock 19

15 + 1 capacity
fairly light
fairly small
very dependable
accurate enough
etc, etc

In the 9 mil realm it is one of the better more desirable guns for CCW. Due to capacity and dependability it is also an excellent home defense/nightstand gun. It is truly one of those guns that does everything well enough in each category. Yes, I have one G19/4 and I like everything about it with the exception of BTF on occasion. That said, at the risk of losing a few of you I have to say the Sig P365 is working its' way up the favorite scale for me in the ccw category. It has had a rough start due to a few problems that Sig seems to have finally addressed. In MY ccw world the P365 is at the top of the heap with the 12 found mag but that is me. I have no affiliation with Sig other than being an owner of a couple of their guns.
Because of the early issues with the P365 there are a few owners who had problems and justly have a sour taste for the P365 and that is understandable. I think looking forward it will become one of the best selling CCW over time as Sig makes improvements.
Check it out for yourself. As always YMMV
 
It's best at what it does: a light well-rounded weapon that always goes BANG. There are other comparable options out there now, but Glock was first.
 
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On the other hand, there are a lot more Glock compatible accessories than for most other similar guns out there.

The only thing I concede is that most excellent factory Glock magazines can be found on sale for <$25. Most of remaining gadgets are just a way of spending more money then realy necessary.
 
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This covers all the bases I need covered. I have a 43 for those times when I can not be caught with a gun but I haven't needed that option in 5 years
 
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Glock 19

15 + 1 capacity
fairly light
fairly small
very dependable
accurate enough
etc, etc

In the 9 mil realm it is one of the better more desirable guns for CCW. Due to capacity and dependability it is also an excellent home defense/nightstand gun. It is truly one of those guns that does everything well enough in each category. Yes, I have one G19/4 and I like everything about it with the exception of BTF on occasion. That said, at the risk of losing a few of you I have to say the Sig P365 is working its' way up the favorite scale for me in the ccw category. It has had a rough start due to a few problems that Sig seems to have finally addressed. In MY ccw world the P365 is at the top of the heap with the 12 found mag but that is me. I have no affiliation with Sig other than being an owner of a couple of their guns.
Because of the early issues with the P365 there are a few owners who had problems and justly have a sour taste for the P365 and that is understandable. I think looking forward it will become one of the best selling CCW over time as Sig makes improvements.
Check it out for yourself. As always YMMV

(Not picking on your post specifically, just as an example to observation)

Man, the 365 is truly the new Glock on the gun boards. Every time a discussion comes up it will surface as the ideal, right as rain. Nothing wrong with it, good gun but mine was too small.

What I wonder is if it will Garner the hate, eventually, that Glock earned for just this same reason. Maybe some pithy nicknames, 365ista or something, be interesting to watch as we go
 
The only thing I concede is that most excellent factory Glock magazines can be found on sale for <$25. Most of remaining gadgets are just a way of spending more money then realy necessary.
The first thing I did when I got my VA Beach Sheriff's Department surplus Glock 19 from Summit Gun Broker was to replace the awful 8+ pound trigger. It wasn't as bad as the execrable "New York trigger" that my Glock 22 had, but I hated it nonetheless. I replaced it with 3.5lb Ghost and did the "$0.25 trigger job". It's an entirely different gun now.
 
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All kidding aside from my above post.. i think that the CZ 75 B compact or the CZ PO1 may be the best one for me (when compared to the Glock 19 size class).

Much better ergonomics. Just as reliable. And I am starting to prefer hammer fired guns. (And this is from someone that has carried the 19 for over a decade.)

The Glock 19 was my favorite.. until I discovered the CZ PO1 and CZ compacts.

Totally agree. I''d take a CZ 9mm over a Glock ANY DAY. Especially a P01.
 
I'm waiting for the 7 inch barrel in .38 Super. All joking aside, a G19 was my first pistol, and I still carry it today. Glocks were the first guns to convince a lot of people that the semi's could be as reliable as their 38. Special or .357 Smith and Wesson revolver.
 
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At New Life Church Jeanne Assam emptied her Berretta 92 (or whatever they call the civilian M9) into Matthew Murray and he was still able to take his own life. I don't carry less than 15 rounds and 2 reloads for church security.
Yes that's a good idea and so do I carry as much as possible. The instructor was just quoting FBI stats from 30 yrs. the average I guess of rds. used to stop a threat. He wasn't saying don't carry minimal. Most guys in our group carry G19's. I find it hard to carry that in the summer so I carry my xde plus another mag.
 
Your ammo is also just as important as your G19. Carry a good defensive round from Speer or Hornady. The FBI switched back to 9mm due to improvements in 9mm ballistics which are now on par with .40 S&W or better.
 
One thing you have to keep in mind: manufacturers do not set to produce the Best handgun, they set to produce what people can afford, as long as it works, so that they can sell enough of them to make money.

What gives them an edge over other manufacturers is how much profit margin they can wring out of a model, competing against another manufacturer's model of similar specs/quality.

Glock stormed the markets not due to superior ergonomics, silky-smooth crisp trigger, concealable slimness, bullseye-worthy accuracy... All of which sorely lacks from any of their products. No, Glock blew away the competition when they offered to LE Departments a $500 gun costing $60 to produce, competing against $550 guns costing $350 to produce - and they offered the same Departments to trade-in their old issue guns for a price that would have sent the competition into bankruptcy.

Glock won the day because of the bean counters, not because of technical superiority. The rest is clever marketing, boosted by "All LE Use Glocks, They Know Better, And So Do You".

If you remove all stickers and brand names, and give an uninitiated a dozen of different handguns to try, asking them to choose the one that best fits their hand, that points most instinctively, that has the best trigger, that is the most accurate, they won't pick a Glock.

Not saying that they're bad (they're definitely not, they do get the job done), only that all the hullabaloo has much more to do with perceived image, than real "feel-in-the-hand".
 
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One thing you have to keep in mind: manufacturers do not set to produce the Best handgun, they set to produce what people can afford, as long as it works, so that they can sell enough of them to make money.

What gives them an edge over other manufacturers is how much profit margin they can wring out of a model, competing against another manufacturer's model of similar specs/quality.

Glock stormed the markets not due to superior ergonomics, silky-smooth crisp trigger, concealable slimness, bullseye-worthy accuracy... All of which sorely lacks from any of their products. No, Glock blew away the competition when they offered to LE Departments a $500 gun costing $60 to produce, competing against $550 guns costing $350 to produce - and they offered the same Departments to trade-in their old issue guns for a price that would have sent the competition into bankruptcy.

Glock won the day because of the bean counters, not because of technical superiority. The rest is clever marketing, boosted by "All LE Use Glocks, They Know Better, And So Do You".

If you remove all stickers and brand names, and give an uninitiated a dozen of different handguns to try, asking them to choose the one that best fits their hand, that points most instinctively, that has the best trigger, that is the most accurate, they won't pick a Glock.

Not saying that they're bad (they're definitely not, they do get the job done), only that all the hullabaloo has much more to do with perceived image, than real "feel-in-the-hand".

That was an excellent analysis.
 
One thing you have to keep in mind: manufacturers do not set to produce the Best handgun, they set to produce what people can afford, as long as it works, so that they can sell enough of them to make money.

What gives them an edge over other manufacturers is how much profit margin they can wring out of a model, competing against another manufacturer's model of similar specs/quality.

Glock stormed the markets not due to superior ergonomics, silky-smooth crisp trigger, concealable slimness, bullseye-worthy accuracy... All of which sorely lacks from any of their products. No, Glock blew away the competition when they offered to LE Departments a $500 gun costing $60 to produce, competing against $550 guns costing $350 to produce - and they offered the same Departments to trade-in their old issue guns for a price that would have sent the competition into bankruptcy.

Glock won the day because of the bean counters, not because of technical superiority. The rest is clever marketing, boosted by "All LE Use Glocks, They Know Better, And So Do You".

If you remove all stickers and brand names, and give an uninitiated a dozen of different handguns to try, asking them to choose the one that best fits their hand, that points most instinctively, that has the best trigger, that is the most accurate, they won't pick a Glock.

Not saying that they're bad (they're definitely not, they do get the job done), only that all the hullabaloo has much more to do with perceived image, than real "feel-in-the-hand".
I hear this a lot but, no matter how good you market something, or how great a price you sell it for, it will not stand the test of time if it can't get the job done and keep on working.
Look at all the guns that manufactures have put out over the years to compete with Glock. How many of those guns have stood the test of time?
Is there one gun out there that is the best gun for everyone? The answer is no.
Find what fits your needs the best and go with it.
 
I hear this a lot but, no matter how good you market something, or how great a price you sell it for, it will not stand the test of time if it can't get the job done and keep on working.
Look at all the guns that manufactures have put out over the years to compete with Glock. How many of those guns have stood the test of time?
Is there one gun out there that is the best gun for everyone? The answer is no.
Find what fits your needs the best and go with it.

From my post:

"Not saying that they're bad (they're definitely not, they do get the job done)"...
 
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