The THR 1851/1860 Club

I got it at a LGS in Marion, IN, in '72, my first pistola purchase. I got all the necessary accoutrements necessary for the task at hand, went out and shot the hell out of it. More accurate than my buddy's 1911, (or so it seemed). Got into a few black powder matches and won a few hams and frozen turkeys. Then I got into my Mountain man/ Plains Indian fascination and started decorating all my stuff, hence the pearl dots in the grips.
Now, I just look at it and smile, thinking of the roads it's been down...
In the last few years I've searched for info on it and happened on a few oblique references to the "Navy Arms Target Model", but nothing substantial turned up.
 
Wow!!!! Once more, thank you very much for those photos! I never heard or read or saw that type of 1860 before.


Sorta really ... not... an "open top" revolver, like that, huh? :p.....;)
 
@foxmeadow thanks for the post! Really interesting revolver and I’m keeping an eye out for one like it... (one can dream...)
It seems as if the rib is stiff enough for the purpose that perhaps the ears and screw at the rear sight may be a bit of over engineering but nevertheless a very desirable pistol!
 
I agree with the over engineered frame, as the rib is pretty rigid. I suppose one could take a standard open top Colt pattern and add a rib w/ sights to the barrel, free float the back end, and have one's very own FrankenColt. 1851"s lend themselves to this better than 1860's.
But, why?
 
It's actually a copy of an experimental model that colt did on the Dragoon platform. At least a variation of. Colt attempted a top strap version which allowed a short Arbor which ended before the front of the cylinder. The hole for the arbor in the cylinder was closed at the face. That way fowling of the cylinder wouldn't be a problem. Obviously having the top strap would locate the barrel and Define the barrel cylinder clearance. Obviously the idea was abandoned as it probably proved a weaker set up.

Mike
 
Good day!

I've been lurking around here for a while now and telling myself, it's just kind of interesting. But it's not. It got way more than that. So. Some 8 days ago i sent some money to the French and this is what i got in return: IMAG2657.jpg

Pietta YAS36, 1851 navy .36 sheriff.

I hope, that's enough to join Your fine club, even though i know that's not all at all. I'm gonna need some balls and caps and powder and tools to service it and lube and soap and range time. It's never just buying the ticket when it comes down to joining a club.
 
ImperatorGray said:
Love it, 6emees. That's a more Colt-looking grip than I used to see on Piettas. Interesting.
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Ad nauseum, the "Colt looking grip" is what occurred in 2015 when Pietta decided not to continue the infamous "tail" grip style. There is no standard original Colt grip if you wish to delve into books.

From Nathan L. Swayze's book "'51 Colt Navies" (1967):

1851-Navy-Grip-Styles.png

Jim
 
expat_alaska said:
at least you opted for a steel frame
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I don't know why but steel framed sheriff models are currently discounted and almost at the same prize as bronze framed ones and what i originally wanted was the same thing in .44 so bronze was out of the question. Why did i take .36? Because YAS44-s are sold out almost everywhere in Europe. Where they have them, they are not selling internationally. I can always get me another one once they come available again if i still want it.
 
jim4945 said:
Here's mine.View attachment 851188
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I especially love the bottom revolver, which appears to me as an 1851 Navy short barrel with slim 1860 Army grips and a large trigger guard. How did you do that? I would appreciate knowing the manufacturer and date code of the gun and where you found that grip assembly and TG. Although I don't care for the short barrel guns, that is beautiful! I am envious, sir!

Regards,

Jim
 
expat_alaska said:
I especially love the bottom revolver, which appears to me as an 1851 Navy short barrel with slim 1860 Army grips and a large trigger guard. How did you do that? I would appreciate knowing the manufacturer and date code of the gun and where you found that grip assembly and TG. Although I don't care for the short barrel guns, that is beautiful! I am envious, sir!

Regards,

Jim
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I believe the bottom one is 1849 colt in 31 caliber
 
Very nice! The bottom picture is a Civilian model with the 3-screw frame but still has the recoil shield(s) modified for the shoulder stock. I am a huge Pietta 1851 Navy .36 "type" collector, but sometimes Pietta does not get it quite correct.

Yes, you are in!

Regards,

Jim
 
expat_alaska said:
Very nice! The bottom picture is a Civilian model with the 3-screw frame but still has the recoil shield(s) modified for the shoulder stock. I am a huge Pietta 1851 Navy .36 "type" collector, but sometimes Pietta does not get it quite correct.

Yes, you are in!

Regards,

Jim
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If you look really close it does have the fourth screw. Lighting and the color-case hardening obscure it, but it's there.
 
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