Belts are found on cartridges too small to justify a .404 Jeffery, .416 Rigby. or .505 Gibbs parent case
Whatever you choose get a solid heavy rifle...and like you said...shoot it ...roll with it and just love the horsepower!
Dad has a 7mm ultra. It has been his elk rifle for as long as I can remember. I know his dies are 7mm STW dies that got a trip to the smith and were wet honed out to ultra specs. I think he paid $20 for the used STW dies and spent $40 on the hone job. A good deal back then.Remington brought out the 7 ultra not too long after they standardized the 7stw.
The ultras a little ridiculous, even for me, but if you want about as much performance as you can get from a 7mm bore....it'll do it
Exactly.Whatever you choose get a solid heavy rifle...and like you said...shoot it ...roll with it and just love the horsepower!
constant state of existence for me.......This thread made me look into the 300 PRC
Now I want one.
(dang you THR!)
There are some great posts here...the desire for “magnum” or horse power is really cool and many love to try powerful old and new cartridges.... but if you choose to hunt with them you MUST shoot them well.... and that means practice....commitment to learn the round and become proficient with them. Many people can’t handle heavy recoil....and personally I would rather hunt with a guy that shoots a 270 awesome...than a guy that shoots a 300 Ultra Mag like ****!
I have a good friend that insists on using a .300 Win Mag to hunt 150 lb. deer (if that) and he swears his rifle does less damage to the meat than a .308. Now how do you reconcile that one??? LOLYup. Case and point. My uncle hunts deer with a 22-250 and always has a freezer of venison. Another guy uses a 338 win mag and if he shoots one half the meat is usually destroyed.
I have a good friend that insists on using a .300 Win Mag to hunt 150 lb. deer (if that) and he swears his rifle does less damage to the meat than a .308. Now how do you reconcile that one??? LOL
Exactly! Choose a hard bullet with rounded profile will get lots of penetration but not so much damage. Soft bullets moving fast literally blow apart tissue. It's a balancing act an awful lot of hunters do not understand and get wrong.Bullet choices.
Bullet choices.
I have a good friend that insists on using a .300 Win Mag to hunt 150 lb. deer (if that) and he swears his rifle does less damage to the meat than a .308. Now how do you reconcile that one??? LOL
Exactly. I grew up bowhunting so I always try to double lung them and if there's a short tracking job, no biggie. Usually they don't go more than 30-40 yards anyway. I'll happily trade a tracking job for a cleaner job of processing and more meat.Shot placement is a big part of the meat damage. Shoot game in the ribs= very little damage. A shot in the front shoulder and you throw away the whole shoulder.
The 300 PRC is very interesting (as is the 30 Nosler) but the gun selection has kept my money in my pocket so far.
Exactly. I grew up bowhunting so I always try to double lung them and if there's a short tracking job, no biggie. Usually they don't go more than 30-40 yards anyway. I'll happily trade a tracking job for a cleaner job of processing and more meat.
Shot placement is a big part of the meat damage. Shoot game in the ribs= very little damage. A shot in the front shoulder and you throw away the whole shoulder.
The 404 Jeff is just absolute perfection. Shame it isn't more popular.
There are substantial numbers of people who feel the .404 Jeffery is the better cartridge. I’ll take a Jeffery any day over a .416 Remington.Luckily for us in 2020 we have the modern replacement, every bit as good, in fact, better, with a vastly greater selection of bullets and of used affordable factory rifles, and which you can still find in certain current production factory rifles, and which uses a standard magnum bolt face. I'm talking, of course, about the 416 Remington Magnum.