Nils Jonasson is doing OK with a Canik
I didn't come here for a pissing contest and I'm done with this discussion.
Shooting it is one thing, but it's probably not breaking on him during a match (or training), so that's probably a valuable data point. Though I suppose he probably has half a dozen (or more) back up guns.Nils can beat 99% of people using a Hi Point. So I’m not sure that’s a good data point to use.
Canik pistols are also the side arm of Turkish military and Special Forces. Many models are also NATO approved, e.i., they past NATO testing requirements. Keep in mind that Turkey ranks 11th in the world in military power out of 145 countries, and are routinely putting their firearms to use in conflicts.Shooting it is one thing, but it's probably not breaking on him during a match (or training), so that's probably a valuable data point. Though I suppose he probably has half a dozen (or more) back up guns.
Do research and check out web forums for personal reviews because there are some subpar shotgun offerings, so I can only assume the same is true for some pistol designs too although I am not aware of any. All of the manufacturers there aren't affiliated or monolithic. You'll have to do your due diligence by researching the specific company and model you're interested. I wouldn't automatically assume all offerings from Turkey or either good or bad. It just depends on the particular company and importer.Seems to be a lot of love for turk made guns here! I made this thread because I've seen love for Canik but didn't know if it was YouTube influencer praise or legit. If I find an outstanding deal on one then maybe I'll pick it up.
Do research and check out web forums for personal reviews because there are some subpar shotgun offerings, so I can only assume the same is true for some pistol designs too although I am not aware of any. All of the manufacturers there aren't affiliated or monolithic. You'll have to do your due diligence by researching the specific company and model you're interested. I wouldn't automatically assume all offerings from Turkey or either good or bad. It just depends on the particular company and importer.
The only brand I would really trust, am interested in, and see as being on par with other duty and military pistols, e.g., Glock, Sig, S&W M&P, HK VP9, etc, would be Caniks IMHO. The only con is the importer is Century Arms. They have a spotty reputation, but I hear they've gotten much better. YMMV.
SAR is also ISO 9001 & NATO certified.
That's always a possibility. When you contacted the seller what did they say? When you contacted SAR USA what did they say?The SAR I had presented FTE, FTF and stovepipes consistently on top of rough fit/finish. Maybe I got a bad example?
What ammo were you using? 115 grain? If so you made the same mistake I did and not read the owner's manual. The SAR9 was originally built as a Turkish military sidearm thus built to take 124 grain NATO rounds. I've been told it will shoot 115 grain after the break in period but until then you're going to have the same problem with non-NATO spec rounds.The SAR I had presented FTE, FTF and stovepipes consistently on top of rough fit/finish. Maybe I got a bad example?
When I contacted SAR USA they first asked what grain ammo I was using. Told them 115 grain........ The manual specifically states it's made for 124 grain NATO rounds...... Oops, my bad. Ever since I switched to 124 grain rounds it's functioned flawlessly.That's always a possibility. When you contacted the seller what did they say? When you contacted SAR USA what did they say?