The "newest" thing will be compensators on almost all pistols.

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In my personal experience, the only time a compensator or ported barrel makes much of a difference is with long slide pistols or long barreled revolvers. Comps and ported barrels won't make much difference in shorter barrels found in most pistols designed of conceal carry.

And I have seen plenty of people have issues and needed to play the spring weight game when adding barrel mounted comps to Glocks and Glock clones. They install a comp with the OEM recoil spring and then wonder why the pistol starts malfunctioning.


The one time that a compensator surprised me and it did make a difference was when I added a Tandemkross Game Changer Pro on my 22lr Kel-Tec CP33. It definitely helped with muzzles rise and allows for faster follow up shots. The CP33 is designed as a target/competition pistol though.
 
I have one compensated pistol. I wouldn’t want a bare muzzle on this gun, and the compensator actually does it’s job on this one. I suppose I would take it off if I had a supressor to take it’s place, but aside from that, this is definitely an example of how a compensated barrel on a pistol is a legitimate benefit.


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Yeah, it’s not exactly what the OP was about, but I guess my point was that I can’t see realizing any benefit to compensating a pistol outside of a niche case like this. I suspect carry pistols will continue to come standard with bare muzzles for quite some time to come. If anything, I think moving the other direction is more likely. If we nuked the NFA and we had the option to use integrated suppressed handguns for ccw, or even captured piston silent ammunition I think that would see a much larger adoption than any form of muzzle brake or compensator.
 
Yeah, I know there's a bunch out there, but I believe that thar's a swarm a com'n! Why not? The market is flooded with tons of almost every imaginable CCW, EDC, ABC, XYZ, etc.... Some are playing around with comps. Most were race guns or $$$$. So, having a mill and a lathe and a few guns that I bought extended threaded barrels for thinking that someday cans would be a "reasonable" acquisition, I decided to make comps for them. Heck, It's a ton of fun making all sorts of terminal stuff for the AR market, why not try some 9mm comps? Turns out they're EZ to make, with or without timing. They're cheep to make and they work! Drilling barrels was an idiotic concept, but comps? And thanks for guys like John Wick, er Terran Tactical, they look pretty dern awesome! So, go buy a threaded barrel and have a comp made for it. It'll be cheaper than buying a new, flooded market, gun!
More pistols are being offered compensated from the factory than ever before in every size . Would hardly consider it a fad . I’ve made quite a few and never had a problem getting them to cycle reliably with NATO spec ammo in 9mm with the factory recoil spring. A7168912-116A-49BA-9B3E-7F35179B4545.jpeg DC9D6FBC-57B2-48ED-94BF-9FA205594E97.jpeg C3D16664-4C09-4888-8199-CE8D89BC81D9.jpeg 00C543F0-AD38-4D53-B4E5-ACBDD3577589.jpeg D2E17F3B-89FF-4139-B9BA-9741EA04BFF4.jpeg
 
More pistols are being offered compensated from the factory than ever before in every size . Would hardly consider it a fad . I’ve made quite a few and never had a problem getting them to cycle reliably with NATO spec ammo in 9mm with the factory recoil spring.View attachment 1143895View attachment 1143896View attachment 1143897View attachment 1143898View attachment 1143900

Yes they will function with NATO spec ammo without changing the spring weight. But too many people go out and buy the cheapest range/training ammo they can find which is usually under powered, especially if marketed as lower recoil ammo. It is the cheap 115 grain fodder that causes issues.
 
I don't get the purpose of comps on a 9mm of all things. And I just got my holster maker to make an extended protector for a threaded barrel, not going to bother them to mold around a compensator.
 
I don't get the purpose of comps on a 9mm of all things. And I just got my holster maker to make an extended protector for a threaded barrel, not going to bother them to mold around a compensator.
I don’t think any pistol really really needs them ( competition maybe ? ) , especially with the low recoil of 9mm , I just like to make them . So I tend to put them on everything. No gadget will ever take the place of training and shooting . Heat gun has always made short work of any holster issue .
 
I run a comp on a couple of pistols I use for competition. For normal use such as self defense, I have no use for them. The added length and weight affects ability to conceal. May as well just pick a bigger, heavier gun and forego the added cleaning. (Yes, comped guns get dirtier quicker...and some comps SUCK to get clean). Is it a bandaid for some dummy who picked a gun they're not able to manage? Possibly.

Ever shot a ported or comped pistol in low light? Inside a room? Managing muzzle flip isn't that important when you're waiting for your eyes to adjust back from the flash that just occured.
Sorry but your off the mark. The post is not about you. Even though you are correct. "Bandaid and dummy" are your best response.
 
Lol.

5x as many cans registered in the last 20 years as the first 70 years of NFA, orders of magnitude more companies manufacturing them, and infinitely more pistols and "traditional" rifles with threaded muzzles, only a tiny handful of which come with anything but a thread protector. Meanwhile a relative dearth of pistol compensators on the market, virtually all of them geared toward a select few models popular with competitors in IPSC, IDPA, 3-gun, bullseye, etc. Yet you believe compensators are the "new" rage and popular with new shooters? It's just not reflected in sales of factory comp'd guns or aftermarket comp availability.

I thread a lot of pistol barrels, and I don't even recall the last time it was for the purpose of adding a compensator.

Take a minute to look at all the factory threaded barrel pistols for sale. Make note of how many come with tall sights or are advertised as "suppressor ready". Then look at how many come with compensators, or specific language about using them, rather than something universal like "threaded barrel to accept a suppressor, compensator, muzzle brake or other muzzle device".

Also look at how many of the aftermarket threaded barrels have distance between slide face and shoulder; that is designed to provide guide rod clearance for a can. It is not needed with compensators.

People wanting recoil mitigation in a compact carry gun are overwhelmingly going to buy ported models or have them ported, not increase the size of something meant for concealment with an obtrusive muzzle attachment. And at that, the subset is pretty small, since a majority would rather simply learn to shoot the gun well or downsize caliber than make an alteration which increases noise and blinds you with flash in low light conditions.
Nope. The post is not concerning the information you share. Albeit well said and mostly true. The post is regarding new guns in the realm of EDC and CCW for new buyers.
 
Yes the Sig P365 XMacro has a compensator but I went with the Tacops (bought it last Friday) version with no comp and a longer barrel. Don't see a need for a comp really.
By chance did you do a direct live comparison? If not, Go back and try a comp on the same length of barrel. They work.
 
I don't get the purpose of comps on a 9mm of all things. And I just got my holster maker to make an extended protector for a threaded barrel, not going to bother them to mold around a compensator.
Way off the post. If you like the issues with holsters, there needs to be a post regarding lights much more than a threaded barrel. However, If your holster has a hole large enough to pass a thread protector, Have a comp made. They can be as small as that thread protector.
 
I don’t think any pistol really really needs them ( competition maybe ? ) , especially with the low recoil of 9mm , I just like to make them . So I tend to put them on everything. No gadget will ever take the place of training and shooting . Heat gun has always made short work of any holster issue .
Hey off post but Awesome! They are fun to make, simple and mostly they work! Ever see the 65y/o at the range trying to figure out what they just bought because the fear for their lives? A 9mm in a CCW packs a wallop. The 20y/o girl who's Dad wants her to be able to protect herself? Yurp, that 9 packs a wallop. Regardless, Comps work. The higher end guns and pro shooters all have them. The flooded market for the EDC and CCW needs what ever the new thing is. BTW, It was the dot. HHmmmm.... How many here thought that would never happen? Any chance you might put a few pics of your work?
 
Maybe. But external comps or ported barrels can be done away with simply by installing a standard barrel; an integrated comp cannot be removed if one decides the juice ain't worth the squeeze with the added noise and flash.

My years in the industry have shown me that people with little experience are easily talked into trying something like a compensated pistol or braked rifle, and that most will end up deciding it's not for them, usually because of the concussion of things that vent high pressure gas on a perpendicular or even rearward-angled plane. A muzzle brake or ported barrel on a hard-kicking sporter seems like a great idea......right up until you touch one off in the field without ear pro. Not so different with handguns, where it seems like it makes shooting a little easier when you're on a range with good ear pro and daylight or good interior lighting, but the benefits are quickly forgotten when the noise and flash in a real-world situation massively increase discomfort and recovery time.

The younger crowd are more easily pushed into these things, and less affected by the downsides. I know I was. But we see a big decrease in the tolerance for noise, flash and recoil as age and years of shooting experience go up and we become more aware of the damage done to our eyes, ears and bodies from being dumb when we were younger. I'm 41 now, and I still have a very high tolerance for recoil, but don't like muzzle flash and really hate the noise. Hence suppressors on just about everything that can be suppressed, and a lot less revolver shooting than I used to do.
Nah, A crap load of the new guns in the CCW and EDC will be shot a very few, if any, times. The purchase is company tailored advertising. Not your age, tolerance, and experience. If I'm wrong, I'll happily eat all the crow you'd like. However, 41, I really thought I knew a lot more then than now. Having a background in the psychology of sales prompts this post. Not feelings, beliefs and personal experiences. A new gun buyer is more interested in knowing, or believing that this "comp" thing is going to allow them greater control and thus greater accuracy. It will save their lives, sorta thing.
 
In my personal experience, the only time a compensator or ported barrel makes much of a difference is with long slide pistols or long barreled revolvers. Comps and ported barrels won't make much difference in shorter barrels found in most pistols designed of conceal carry.

And I have seen plenty of people have issues and needed to play the spring weight game when adding barrel mounted comps to Glocks and Glock clones. They install a comp with the OEM recoil spring and then wonder why the pistol starts malfunctioning.


The one time that a compensator surprised me and it did make a difference was when I added a Tandemkross Game Changer Pro on my 22lr Kel-Tec CP33. It definitely helped with muzzles rise and allows for faster follow up shots. The CP33 is designed as a target/competition pistol though.
Way off target. This is new guns, new buyers.
 
I have one compensated pistol. I wouldn’t want a bare muzzle on this gun, and the compensator actually does it’s job on this one. I suppose I would take it off if I had a supressor to take it’s place, but aside from that, this is definitely an example of how a compensated barrel on a pistol is a legitimate benefit.


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Yeah, it’s not exactly what the OP was about, but I guess my point was that I can’t see realizing any benefit to compensating a pistol outside of a niche case like this. I suspect carry pistols will continue to come standard with bare muzzles for quite some time to come. If anything, I think moving the other direction is more likely. If we nuked the NFA and we had the option to use integrated suppressed handguns for ccw, or even captured piston silent ammunition I think that would see a much larger adoption than any form of muzzle brake or compensator.
Yurp, off base. But fun post. I hate all AK platforms for what they have done to so many Americans and for what they stand for worldwide. Glad you like yours.
 
More pistols are being offered compensated from the factory than ever before in every size . Would hardly consider it a fad . I’ve made quite a few and never had a problem getting them to cycle reliably with NATO spec ammo in 9mm with the factory recoil spring.View attachment 1143895View attachment 1143896View attachment 1143897View attachment 1143898View attachment 1143900
Great pics! I just love the timing with the amount of torque. I know guys who think crush washers are they way to go. TTphhtttss!!! No pic rail? Anodize? Powder coat? Blue? Just like um shinny? Fun stuff. I make them for free for friends. They work and look kool. See the fan fair for the John Wick Glock additions?
 
Yes they will function with NATO spec ammo without changing the spring weight. But too many people go out and buy the cheapest range/training ammo they can find which is usually under powered, especially if marketed as lower recoil ammo. It is the cheap 115 grain fodder that causes issues.
Huh?
 
By chance did you do a direct live comparison? If not, Go back and try a comp on the same length of barrel. They work.

To get the comp you have to give up barrel length, so the comped model has a 3.1" barrel and mine has a 3.7" barrel. I have not got to shoot the comped version - heck I haven't shot the one I bought yet!
 
Sorry but your off the mark. The post is not about you. Even though you are correct. "Bandaid and dummy" are your best response.
So then, the post is about all the new guns that'll be equipped from the factory with compensators to wow the new-to-shooting-handgun crowd with their miraculous ability to make up for poor marksmanship and recoil management? So it's not about me. How about....

Comps have been around a long time. There are scenarios where they're useful or they wouldn't still be around. Self defense isn't among those, and the folks most likely to need to defend themselves with a handgun apparently aren't sold on compensators either. When military and LEO contracts begin to include comps on every handgun they purchase, I'll start to think you're on to something.
 
I'm still waiting for the blister packed suppressor hanging on a peg at Walmart that was promised when DJT was running the show. Oh well, I'ii be patient. Its got to turn the corner someday.
Talking about comps. Anybody remember the old "Cockballer" for 1911's in the early 80's. Similar comps are sold today, but are about 3/8" shorter preventing the ability to jam the muzzle one handed into anything semi-solid to facilitate the chambering of a round. Kinda took the
"Cock" out of the ole' "Cockballer"
 
Nah, A crap load of the new guns in the CCW and EDC will be shot a very few, if any, times. The purchase is company tailored advertising. Not your age, tolerance, and experience. If I'm wrong, I'll happily eat all the crow you'd like. However, 41, I really thought I knew a lot more then than now. Having a background in the psychology of sales prompts this post. Not feelings, beliefs and personal experiences. A new gun buyer is more interested in knowing, or believing that this "comp" thing is going to allow them greater control and thus greater accuracy. It will save their lives, sorta thing.

I have a background in manufacturing and selling guns, gun parts and accessories. Probably a wee bit more relevant here.

Carry on, though. I'll not waste another minute of my time debating the likes of you, who I would have taken for late teens or early 20s by the way you conduct yourself. Color me shocked that you're older than I am.
 
Great pics! I just love the timing with the amount of torque. I know guys who think crush washers are they way to go. TTphhtttss!!! No pic rail? Anodize? Powder coat? Blue? Just like um shinny? Fun stuff. I make them for free for friends. They work and look kool. See the fan fair for the John Wick Glock additions?
I keep a .003 clearance between the slide and comp and blue lock-tite in place . Let it set up 24 hours . I use 304 stainless , stands up to the flame well . Sand to 1500 grit and I’m done .
 
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