CZ-527 7.62x39mm?

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Hello all!

I've been wanting to buy a CZ-527 in 7.62x39mm for a long time now. Before taking the plunge, I'd like to hear from others who own these rifles and their experiences with them.

I am wondering first about accuracy. Are these really as accurate as I hear? What kind of groups can I expect with off the shelf Wold (cheap) steel cased ammo? I own a ton of Golden Tiger and Yugo M67 brass cased ball ammo (I know it's corrosive) and need a rifle to use this ammo! I recently sold off my two SKSs.

I will be using the rifle for just plain 'ol recreational shooting, everything from bench shooting to backyard plinking.

That leads me to the other question, are these guns rugged? Are they of good build quality, or do they break often? I can see getting spare parts, especially in the future, as being an issue so I want to be sure these guns don't have any major problems with longevity.

Lastly, how would you rate these rifles overall? I've heard good things, but not much in general.

Thanks so much everyone!! :D
 
Since I own one I feel mostly qualified to take a stab here.

I have found the rifle to be more accurate than any AK I've shot, including a Vepr. It is not as accurate as my Olympic Arms AR15 7.62x39 upper with good (Hornady 123 gr SST) ammo. With "cheap" bloc ammo it's a toss up.

Mine went back to the factory right away, extractor binding. The bolt could not be retracted past a certain point. To their credit, CZ issued a call tag and had the rifle back to me within a week and, more importantly, fixed.

Build quality? My wife chuckles when I use the doneness of a fine steak to describe things like this. I'll go medium for my CZ 527, it's decent, a good value.

Would I buy it again? No. Is mine for sale? No.

Hope that helps.
 
I have a CZ527 in 7.62 x 39. It is more accurate than any 7.62x39 rifle I have ever owned. Not that that is something to write home about. Not as accurate as my Model 7 AAC blackout.

The rifle is very light. Just over six pounds. Recoil what recoil. The set trigger is excellent. The open sights can be hard to adjust. The walnut stock is too pretty to take in the field. Mags and scope mounts are expensive.

I have never shot a military surplus round or even a Wolf down the barrel. I bought it in 2006 and shoot it regularly. I handload for it and accuracy is good. I use a 3x9 scope. You have to mount them high due to the shape of the bolt handle in order to clear the scope. I had to take a little off bottom of the eye end of a Redfield Revolution Scope in order to clear. Or else modify the bolt handle.

Good

Light Weight
Excellent Trigger
Stock is too nice
Mauser Type Action

Bad

High scope mount height
Mags can be expensvie
Stock is too nice.

I liked it so much that I bought another in 204 Ruger.
 
I have 2 CZ 527s in 7.62x39 and my experience has been this ,you may have problems eventually with steel ammo as the primers are quite hard I had to replace the firing pin springs. Second I had problems with brass cased factory ammo mostly because of head spacing and had to get a set of competition shell holders in order to get the rifle to function reliably.Despite these minor short comings I love my CZ 527s and wouldn't give them up for anything.
 
I have the .223 CZ527 American and a buddy at the club has the the 7.62x39. We've had really good experience with both.

ATB,

Scrummy
 
I have been very happy with my 527 in 7.62 x 39mm. Lightweight, handy, with the fantastic single set trigger, and almost no recoil. It's a great little gun.
 
Mine seems to be less accurate than most, the best it does is about an inch and a half with Lapua match grade ammo, two and a half inches with the cheap steel cased ammo. I have a 223 and 308 that are one inch rifles at 100 yards, so I'm pretty sure it's not the nut behind the trigger (me). I've tried over a dozen factory loadings, most of them shoot over two inches at 100 yards (five shot groups). I plan to bed the action after deer season to see how that helps. It's certainly accurate enough for deer out to the 7.62x39's max range, which I consider to be ~160 yards.

I run a peep sight or a red dot sight on mine when I'm not on the bench, the rifle is so light I'd hate to put a heavy scope on it. I'd go with something lightweight if I did scope it permanently. The stock is really made for irons or an RDS, it puts your eye pretty close to the top rail if you mount your cheek to the stock. You can use a scope as I do off the bench, but with the low stock and high rings it's not ideal (but it works).

The set trigger is OK, it's nice on the bench but too light for the field, and there's significant over travel. The "backwards" safety isn't as hard to adjust to as I thought it would be. The Mauser style action is very nice, it did take about a thousand cycles to smooth up and stop chattering. Fit and finish is good, the stock is nice, OK checkering (could be more aggressive).

Overall I'm happy with my purchase because it filled a role: the lightweight walk-about deer rifle that can reach out as far as I can reliably shoot, and is cheap to feed during practice sessions. I really like the ergonomics, action, and looks. If I can get the accuracy where I want it I will be thrilled with it, whereas right now I'm merely satisfied.
 
It's been almost a decade since I sold mine but depending on ammo it ranged from acceptable to amazingly accurate.

I found that reliability problems with hand loads are nearly 100% caused by overzealous shoulder setback during resizing. A case gauge is a must for FL sizing or better yet get a Lee collet neck die and watch those groups shrink.
 
Thanks all!

I've got this gun in mind mainly to shoot the brass and steel surplus 7.62x39mm I have laying around. Also, I plan to shoot mostly cheap steel case ammo through it due to budget reasons, but will also certainly play around with all types of commercial loads I find. I hear the Hornady Steel Match is really accurate in this rifle, and I'd imagine the Lapua brass cased ammo is accurate too.

Yep, for me, the 7.62x39mm draw is the price, and one of the big reasons why I'm leaning towards a CZ-527 versus say a .308 or .30-06 offering. Also, for my needs and uses, the 7.62x39mm will have more than enough power and range.
 
This is one very popular carbine, get one now. :) Very reliable, accurate and fun with light recoil and easy operation. Great Mini Mauser action and the single set trigger is a joy. Never had to adjust mine.
 
I like mine so much I am considering a second for my kids. Mine shoots very well, about 1inch at 100 yards with our reloads. I like the iron sights, they are very simple. The bolt works very smoothly, and ejection is robust. The factory trigger is excellent, no creep at all, and even lighter when using the "set" mode. Wood to metal fitting is better than most rifles costing much more. Because this rifle is really light, field shooting such as snap shots and moving while shooting are really easy and fast. While the steel mags are not cheap, they are available, and of high quality. No plastic there, nor anywhere else in any action part.
 
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122gr Tula FMJ, 100 yards from a rest, and a cheap Tasco Bantam 2.5x scope.

I love mine. Very handy. The action certainly slicks up after some use, and I had a few magazine hiccups at first. Other than that, its fantastic.
 
I just want to point out that CZ sells a modified bolt handle that will help with scope clearance issues. I have a Redfield 3-9x33 with Warne meduim rings mounted on my .223 with room to spare. I think I paid 30 bucks directly from the CZ-USA website.
 
I used CZ rings for a scope on a sample 223, worked fine with the bolt.
Denis
 
I just want to point out that CZ sells a modified bolt handle that will help with scope clearance issues. I have a Redfield 3-9x33 with Warne meduim rings mounted on my .223 with room to spare. I think I paid 30 bucks directly from the CZ-USA website.
I've seen that, but doesn't it say gunsmith installation recommended?

How did you install the new bolt to your rifle? Thanks!
 
CZ redesigned/modified the bolt handle on the new ones to address interference between bolt handle and scope. Here's my .223 with a 2-7x32mm scope.

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Very nice!! I will be buying a new one.

I'm thinking a Leupold 2-7x28mm Ultralight right now... I'm not sure what kind of rings I should buy. I want the scope to be at a comfortable height, no chin weld LOL! :D
 
Very nice!! I will be buying a new one.

I'm thinking a Leupold 2-7x28mm Ultralight right now... I'm not sure what kind of rings I should buy. I want the scope to be at a comfortable height, no chin weld LOL! :D
CZ sells a Weaver rail that would allow you to use a variety of more standard rings, otherwise you'll have a more limited selection using the stock rail. I have the 30mm CZ rings, they work but the scope is a little high.
 
Thanks Corn-Picker. That will give me a bunch more options for mounting on my CZ rifles. They show sold out on the CZ site, but if you google "Weaver rail adapter CZ 527 scope", you get a lot of sources with them in stock. $40-$60.
 
Hmm... I'd like to stick with rings on the 16mm mounts, for looks and weight reduction. I want to keep this rifle light, but do want an optic and a sling.
 
Hmm... I'd like to stick with rings on the 16mm mounts, for looks and weight reduction. I want to keep this rifle light, but do want an optic and a sling.
Warne makes both fixed and QD rings for several scope tube diameter for the CZ 527. I'm currently using their 2B1M fixed rings (http://warnescopemounts.com/product/2b1m-1-inch-cz-527-fixed-high-matte-rings/). I went to the Warne rings because I dislike the CZ rings that came with the rifle. They require using a flat blade screwdriver for installation - too easy to slip a scratch something IMO.

I may switch to the QD version (http://warnescopemounts.com/product/2b1lm-1-inch-cz-527-quick-detach-high-matte-rings/) so that I can easily go to iron sights when the spirit moves me. :D
 
Warne makes both fixed and QD rings for several scope tube diameter for the CZ 527. I'm currently using their 2B1M fixed rings (http://warnescopemounts.com/product/2b1m-1-inch-cz-527-fixed-high-matte-rings/). I went to the Warne rings because I dislike the CZ rings that came with the rifle. They require using a flat blade screwdriver for installation - too easy to slip a scratch something IMO.

I may switch to the QD version (http://warnescopemounts.com/product/2b1lm-1-inch-cz-527-quick-detach-high-matte-rings/) so that I can easily go to iron sights when the spirit moves me. :D
Say! That's a fair idea indeed, one I am most partial to!! :)

I will have to check those out. Thanks for the recommendation!!
 
For those that mention trigger overtravel, etc...the thing is fully adjustable to get rid of any slop. I have mine down to almost a mouse click.:cool:

One more thing, when resizing brass to reload, DON'T use full lengh resizing once it's fired in your gun. I had frustrating light primer strikes until I figured this out.
 
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