What large folder to replace lost BM Rukus?

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Several years back, I saved up some money and bought a Benchmade 610 Rukus. Standard un-serrated blade. I carried it a bit, decided that I liked it and made a new set of scales for it out of cocobolo.

Long story short, I lost it recently. They discontinued it a few years ago, so I can’t replace it without buying on the secondary market. It was $200 new and any I'm finding for sale are about twice that now.

So what to replace it with? I liked the deep carry pocket clip and being left handed, I really liked the Axis lock.

Any ideas for me?

Thanks!
 
Osborne Rift. It's got a high clip mount and actually looks smaller in the pocket than some knives half the size. It's an Axis lock, too.
 
I like the Military too. But as a lefty the OP might want a more ambi friendly lock. In that case I might recommend the Police model. The latest version offers G10 scales and a full flat grind. I do like the looks of the classic stainless ones though.
 
Thanks for the replies, guys. I've noted your recommendations and will check them out next time I'm in a decent knife shop.

I'm not very good at picking knives by picture. Kinda have to touch them.

Thanks again.
 
Benchmade's new 15080-2 Hunt Crooked River is the closest in size and materials to the 610 Rukus. It doesn't come with the deep carry clip, but it does use Benchmade's standard clip hole pattern so you could get the deep carry clip for it. It might be a start.
 
Get a ZT knife with a frame lock. As of right now, they are using some very impressive steels and very original designs. One of these steels is CPM-154. CPM-154 is the super steel that gives stellar performance in regards to all areas, yet no one ever talks about it. It is dramatically superior to D2, 154CM, and most S30V. S35VN and ELMAX are also great steels (although IMO CPM-154 is superior to both.)

You might like this website...I get most of my Kershaws, ZTs, and some Spydercos from here given the blems are functionally perfect despite their cosmetic imperfections... http://kershawguy.com/products-page/kershaw-blems/
 
Get a ZT knife with a frame lock.
The OP is a lefty, and right hand frame locks aren't lefty friendly like the Axis.

As of right now, they are using some very impressive steels and very original designs. One of these steels is CPM-154. CPM-154 is the super steel that gives stellar performance in regards to all areas, yet no one ever talks about it.
KAI USA (parent company of ZT and Kershaw) is only using CPM 154 on the Kershaw Launch line of auto openers. They're using better steels like CPM S35VN, Uddeholm Elmax, and CTS 204P on the ZT line.

It is dramatically superior to D2, 154CM, and most S30V. S35VN and ELMAX are also great steels (although IMO CPM-154 is superior to both.)
CPM 154 is just 154CM made using the Crucible's powder metal technology (hence the CPM prefix) rather than conventional ingot or vaccum melting. Crucible's own literature shows that the advantage of the CPM process over conventional 154CM is increased toughness and improved grindability. Wear resistance is the same.

CPM 154CM is inferior in most aspects to CPM S30V as a cutlery steel given equal quality heat treats for each. S30V has equal toughness to and better wear resistance than CPM 154 with only a slight decrease in grindability. Likewise, CPM S35VN - itself an improved version of S30V - is tougher than S30V, has equal wear resistance to S30V, and is more grindable than S30V. Hence, CPM S35VN is superior to CPM 154. The only area where CPM 154 has an advantage is that it's slightly easier to heat treat. That information is straight from Crucible's own data sheets, who's the manufacturer of all three of those steels.

Elmax is a different animal. It's a powder metal process steel made by the Uddeholm side of BU Corp (Bohler-Uddeholm Corporation), so we don't have data sheets from the same manufacturer as a head to head comparison. However, we do have info from knife makers and steel suppliers. What we know is that Elmax is incredibly tough, incredibly wear resistant, and very highly corrosion resistant; but it's one of the most difficult to grind and heat treat of the common used cutlery alloys.

So, if you want an extremely tough knife that's highly corrosion resistant and you don't mind it being rather time consuming to sharpen is Elmax is a great choice. If you're okay with lower toughness, slightly better edge retention, and increased ease of sharpenability M390/20CV/204P is the better option. If you're willing to give up that toughness and also lose a little more edge retention for even easier sharpening then S35VN is a great choice. Or if you were an early adopter of S30V and want a steel with similar heat treat process but improved machinability then S35VN is your steel. If you're a manufacturer who has a great 154CM heat treat process in place and you want improved toughness and machinabilty and only want to make minor tweaks at most to your existing HT process then CPM 154 is your steel. If you're okay giving up a little toughness and a little bit of edge retention to S30V/S35VN to get easier sharpening and an easier heat treat, then again CPM 154 is your steel.

As all of the above illustrates, we have to be very careful saying any one steel is better than another in a broad general sense. We have to define better in which ways.
 
Benchmades have been great for me. I'm carrying a Mini-Griptilian for about 10 years now. Everyday carry, it gets used hard and has been great. I wouldn't hesitate on one of their larger folders. Their blade release system is ambidextrous, smooth, intuitive to use. Think about it
 
I like the look of the new Benchmade. I have a thing for nice wood stocks and knife scales. I liked the full flat grind of the Rukus, but there's a lot to be said for a hollow ground clip point.

I've looked at all the ZT knives trying to convince myself that I need one and none of the current models quite do it for me. I do like the idea of the ball bearing pivot though.

I have a few Opinels. I like them, but they're kind of a different genre.

Thanks again for all the discussion.
 
Ball bearing pivots are, in fact, buttery smooth. But only while they are clean! The trouble that I have found is that grit and grim can easily find it's way in there.

Bearings sure sound good on paper, but in the real world I would rather have the tried and true phospher bronze pivot system that most quality knives already come with.

Bronze bushings are plenty smooth out of box and can be made very smooth with some light polishing. There is very little open space to allow dirt in and it should be stronger too, at least in theory. Much more material there to distribute forces against. Wide surfaces of washers verses the point-like contact area of tiny ball bearings.

YMMV, but I am not terribly impressed with my bearing equipped knives.
 
The OP is a lefty, and right hand frame locks aren't lefty friendly like the Axis.


KAI USA (parent company of ZT and Kershaw) is only using CPM 154 on the Kershaw Launch line of auto openers. They're using better steels like CPM S35VN, Uddeholm Elmax, and CTS 204P on the ZT line.

CPM 154 is just 154CM made using the Crucible's powder metal technology (hence the CPM prefix) rather than conventional ingot or vaccum melting. Crucible's own literature shows that the advantage of the CPM process over conventional 154CM is increased toughness and improved grindability. Wear resistance is the same.

CPM 154CM is inferior in most aspects to CPM S30V as a cutlery steel given equal quality heat treats for each. S30V has equal toughness to and better wear resistance than CPM 154 with only a slight decrease in grindability. Likewise, CPM S35VN - itself an improved version of S30V - is tougher than S30V, has equal wear resistance to S30V, and is more grindable than S30V. Hence, CPM S35VN is superior to CPM 154. The only area where CPM 154 has an advantage is that it's slightly easier to heat treat. That information is straight from Crucible's own data sheets, who's the manufacturer of all three of those steels.

Elmax is a different animal. It's a powder metal process steel made by the Uddeholm side of BU Corp (Bohler-Uddeholm Corporation), so we don't have data sheets from the same manufacturer as a head to head comparison. However, we do have info from knife makers and steel suppliers. What we know is that Elmax is incredibly tough, incredibly wear resistant, and very highly corrosion resistant; but it's one of the most difficult to grind and heat treat of the common used cutlery alloys.

So, if you want an extremely tough knife that's highly corrosion resistant and you don't mind it being rather time consuming to sharpen is Elmax is a great choice. If you're okay with lower toughness, slightly better edge retention, and increased ease of sharpenability M390/20CV/204P is the better option. If you're willing to give up that toughness and also lose a little more edge retention for even easier sharpening then S35VN is a great choice. Or if you were an early adopter of S30V and want a steel with similar heat treat process but improved machinability then S35VN is your steel. If you're a manufacturer who has a great 154CM heat treat process in place and you want improved toughness and machinabilty and only want to make minor tweaks at most to your existing HT process then CPM 154 is your steel. If you're okay giving up a little toughness and a little bit of edge retention to S30V/S35VN to get easier sharpening and an easier heat treat, then again CPM 154 is your steel.

As all of the above illustrates, we have to be very careful saying any one steel is better than another in a broad general sense. We have to define better in which ways.

While CPM-154 is to 154CM as RWL-34 is to ATS-34, I think they are entirely different beasts. I'll take CPM-154 over S30V or S35VN any day of the week. If I did not clarify in the previous post, I do not mean to make that statement as fact but rather my opinion. I have a CPM-S30V Blur and a CPM-154 Blur and I find that the CPM-154 Blur is considerably tougher with superior chip resistance, holds almost as good an edge, is very easy to sharpen, and has very good stain resistance. For my small pocket knives, I've come to prefer M390.

I was under the impression that some custom makers were heat treating CPM-154 up to 62 HRC and that it was giving edge-holding abilities comparable to some of the steels with extremely high abrasion resistance?
 
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