New 9mm revolver offering from S&W

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I don't think that's an unreasonable price. But I suppose I would find Smith's revolver prices even more reasonable if they still pinned and recessed their guns.
 
I'm a little confused about the cylinder. S&W listed the unfluted cylinder as a feature. I thought the idea behind the titanium cylinder was to reduce mass so the cylinder could rotate more quickly but hit the cylinder stop with less force (reduced cylinder inertia). The fluted titanium cylinders are more than adequate to handle 9mm pressures. Making a non-fluted cylinder for this revolver was either a cost-saving measure or they thought it looked better with a non-fluted cylinder.
 
Rock Island Armory is working on a 9 mm version of there 205 revolvers to be introduced in late 17. Msrp is $350 so figure a street price around $300

I wonder if they'll chamber the 200 in 9mm. That would make the only 4" barrel 9mm revolver out there.

I'm surprised that the Taurus 905 isn't cheaper than it is. I know there are a few extra machining steps with the cylinder, and you have to produce moon clips, but still, the price difference between an 85 and a 905 seems out of whack.
 
I bet that 6.5in barrel being 9mm is really accurate?
It is very accurate. What people who shoot them in competition are doing is lightening the barrel so they can transition between targets faster.

It would be really nice if they'd fit the 929 with the Ti cylinder also...it would help the bolt stops hold up better to fast shooting
 
It would be really nice if they'd fit the 929 with the Ti cylinder also...it would help the bolt stops hold up better to fast shooting
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It holds up better to fast shooting than a steel cylinder

IIRC, word on the Enos revolver forum was that Ti helped prevent peening of the bolt stops, but it was tough on the bolt itself. I suppose a bolt is easier to replace than a cylinder, though. ;)
 
IIRC, word on the Enos revolver forum was that Ti helped prevent peening of the bolt stops, but it was tough on the bolt itself. I suppose a bolt is easier to replace than a cylinder, though. ;)
That is what Scot and Randy told me too...easier and less expensive
 
I appreciate new models and innovations. However, I just don't see the use of this one. At 2lbs and adjustable sights, its far from an ideal carry revolver. The 2.5 inch barrel is not ideal for target or competition use.

So what is this configurations intended purpose?

I would love to see a frame that fit the cylinder. Trim it down to as close as a J-frame as you can get and still squeeze 6 rounds in. Now that would be worth buying.
 
I appreciate new models and innovations. However, I just don't see the use of this one. At 2lbs and adjustable sights, its far from an ideal carry revolver. The 2.5 inch barrel is not ideal for target or competition use.

So what is this configurations intended purpose?

I would love to see a frame that fit the cylinder. Trim it down to as close as a J-frame as you can get and still squeeze 6 rounds in. Now that would be worth buying.

That large 2.5" 9x19 S&W will sell a little better than food items close to expiration date. The only reason I can give for folks at S&W to roll them out is that Seer and Federal make "short barrel" 9mm luger ammo. I have S&W 940 and while heavy and only 5-shotit isn't a bad gun. I never use it because I have R9 and Makarov pistols. S&W did make prototype 9x19 with light frame, but did not and will not make any because Ruger and Taurus already offer 9x19 carry-type revolvers. Small, light 9x19 carry revolver would make more sense than this large abomination.
 
I just never understood the attraction of the revolver chambered for a semi-auto cartridge. I suppose it made sense during "The Great War" when they just needed a gun, any gun that could shoot the new 45 ACP cartridge, but since then it just seems like a solution in search of a problem.

I've seen a half dozen or more hit the market and just as quickly die when they just don't sell. Ones like the Smith & Wesson 547 was it? Become collectors items...the others? Not so much.

And it's got an unfluted cylinder. Looks like they forgot to finish it.

But then I'm an old curmudgeon. What do I know?
 
I just don't see the need for it. for one third the price ; I can get a nice 357 mag snub. in todays market there are more and more subcompact 9s that will fill the gap for self defense.
 
I just never understood the attraction of the revolver chambered for a semi-auto cartridge.
It is mostly a matter of reloading speed.

Moonclips holding semi-auto cartridges allow faster reloads; much faster.

The bigger advantage when used in a snubbie is that auto cartridges offer more reliable ejection
 
Smith and Wesson doesn't have a frame that fits a 9mm sized cylinder.

I think the only manufacturer that does is Korth.
But that's why Smith should just stop bastardizing their existing platforms. I have a 625PC and can barely stand to look at it.
 
Geez, you could lose your keys in that cylinder/frame gap. How hard is it for S&W to shorten these things for a given chambering? As ugly as the Sky Marshal is, at least it looks like it was built to be a 9mm. This gun is clearly 38special or even 357mag with a gimped cylinder.

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Hold out little longer gents, Rock Island Armory is working on a 9 mm version of there 205 revolvers to be introduced in late 17. Msrp is $350 so figure a street price around $300
Any word on how it'll stack up against the new Colts, lol? 300$ just might make revolvers great again (they were once a budget-comparable item, but in the last ten years it seems they're all at least double the competition)

Maybe this really is the year of the revolver, and Chiappa will finally get off their fannies & do a Rhino in 9mm (parabellum)

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Chiappa does make a 9mm Rhino, they just don't distribute it here in the U.S.

They also sell a 9mm cylinder for their 357, the barrel is a 357 barrel, but from what I've heard from people who own the Ruger Blackhawk convertible, there isn't a noticeable decrease in accuracy firing 9mm through a 38 /357 barrel.

You can get the Rhino combo - its not rare...

The only possible difference between the two is that the straight 9mm Rhino might have a slightly more narrow barrel, (I don't know that it does). The frame on the 9mm model isn't fit to a shorter 9mm cylinder - its a 357 Magnum sized cylinder so there is the same amount of freebore or cylinder jump to get to the forcing cone in both the straight 9mm Rhino and the Rhino 357/9mm combo.
 
Chiappa does make a 9mm Rhino, they just don't distribute it here in the U.S.

They also sell a 9mm cylinder for their 357, the barrel is a 357 barrel, but from what I've heard from people who own the Ruger Blackhawk convertible, there isn't a noticeable decrease in accuracy firing 9mm through a 38 /357 barrel.

You can get the Rhino combo - its not rare...

The only possible difference between the two is that the straight 9mm Rhino might have a slightly more narrow barrel, (I don't know that it does). The frame on the 9mm model isn't fit to a shorter 9mm cylinder - its a 357 Magnum sized cylinder so there is the same amount of freebore or cylinder jump to get to the forcing cone in both the straight 9mm Rhino and the Rhino 357/9mm combo.

Where can you get the 9mm cylinder? I'd love to get one.
 
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