Can you identify this rifle?

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My father purchased it and was told it was a 7mm, then 7.62, but the guy couldn't really tell him what it was the seller (third party) was shooting out of it. I suspect it is a Chilean re-barreled Mauser in 7.62 x 51mm, but there is no designation on the barrel.
 
That looks like a Chilean Mauser, they often had the Modelo 1912 and the crest on the receiver.

I believe some were converted into 7.62x51 NATO, but the barrel looks like a stepped down standard one that is consistent with that period Mauser. The only real way to be sure is to buy some Cerrosafe and make a cast of the chamber.
 
Sure looks like a model 1912 Chilean Mauser to me also. That one's been cut down some and who knows what it's chambered in now. They were all originally in 7mm Mauser ( 7 x 57 ) IIRC. I seem to recall those having straight bolt handles but there may have been some other variations or that one got bent down when the rifle got cut down. Looks interesting, though, and I second the motion on the Cerrosafe.
 
Okay, so I just measured the bore with a caliper and it measures 7mm, not 7.62. I guess it wasn't re-barreled and is an original 7x57 Mauser.
 
Sure looks like the original barrel and even if it's 7mm I'd still wanna make double sure the chamber is still 7x57 . On some of these old military guns that have been sporterized there's no telling what else has been done to it. A Cerrosafe chamber cast or a good gunsmith could solve that mystery. Probably still 7x57 and that would be a neat rifle but always be sure of it before proceeding. If it's a 7x57 and you get to shoot it do we get a range report? Oh, and how's the bore condition?
 
Sure looks like the original barrel and even if it's 7mm I'd still wanna make double sure the chamber is still 7x57 . On some of these old military guns that have been sporterized there's no telling what else has been done to it. A Cerrosafe chamber cast or a good gunsmith could solve that mystery. Probably still 7x57 and that would be a neat rifle but always be sure of it before proceeding. If it's a 7x57 and you get to shoot it do we get a range report? Oh, and how's the bore condition?

When I get around to trying it I'll give a report. As for the bore, a quick look down it today seems pretty clean.
 
Definite a Chilean Mauser. I saw them daily as I passed “La Moneda” when I lived in Chile. Their honor guard use them, and make quite the display at changing of the guard.

Geno
 
I agree that it is a Chilean Mauser--obviously the stock has been altered and the receiver has been blued (originally in the white)
Barrels are complicated on length as the original was 29 inches, there was a short rifle of 21.5, and Chile used some carbines with around a 17-18 inch barrels in their 1935 large ring model but those came from Oberndorf and not Steyr. Who knows what happened before you got it. +
Few links on these.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/rechambered-1912-chilean-mauser.753405/

http://www.guns.com/review/gun-review-chilean-steyr-model-1912-mauser-bolt-action-rifle-in-7x57mm/

http://randyrick.us/AustrianFirearms/rm1912.htm (fixed--Thanks Sunray--it happened when I cut and pasted.)

Robert Ball's Mauser Book on page 77 link
https://books.google.com/books?id=p...us=viewport&dq=chilean+mauser+large+ring+1912

At least some of the 1912 7.62 Nato conversions used new Springfield 03a3 barrels that were roughly profiled on the exterior to match a Mauser profiled barrel, rethreaded to Mauser V threads, and converted to 7.62 chambers by quite a bit of machining and cutting. You can tell these by the machining work. The one that I have is a two groove mirror bore but the outside is reminds me of wartime Mosins in roughness of machining marks. The Ball book shows a number of different markings for the 1912-61 7.62 conversion. The long barrelled ones were rebored to .7.62 from 7mm from what I remember.
 
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Slugging the barrel is the best way to determine calibre. Hammer a cast .30 cal bullet or lead fishing sinker through the barrel, preferably from the chamber end, using a 1/4" brass rod and a plastic mallet then use your calipres to measure the bullet/snicker.
Have a look at this. There's a list of barrel lengths by chambering. http://randyrick.us/AustrianFirearms/rm1912.htm The difference is the 'l' on the end.
 
Sure looks like a model 1912 Chilean Mauser to me also. That one's been cut down some and who knows what it's chambered in now. They were all originally in 7mm Mauser ( 7 x 57 ) IIRC. I seem to recall those having straight bolt handles but there may have been some other variations or that one got bent down when the rifle got cut down. Looks interesting, though, and I second the motion on the Cerrosafe.


well, the front sight still looks military, so perhaps it was a carbine? :uhoh:
 
well, the front sight still looks military, so perhaps it was a carbine? :uhoh:
The Chileans did have some carbines in large ring but made by Mauser itself rather than Steyr. It is possible that the Chilean military or someone else put a 7mm carbine barrel on it. If I recall correctly, Brazil had some 7mm carbines in large ring as well and you can still see those carbine barrels for sale every now and then.
 
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