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maybe all the bad trigger discipline we see is just because we're still inside the matrix and those damn computers don't know how to handle real guns
Anything you can wish for in a virtual reality program, and the best thing he can dream up is a couple of frickin' postban Special Weapons SP89 knockoffs with scopes?
That's pretty sad.
Oh, and, uh, it's good to see the fingers off the triggers.
That's pretty sad.
Oh, and, uh, it's good to see the fingers off the triggers.
Didn't they have lasers in the movie too? I can't remember the scene precisely.
Ah, well. Better than a Glock 18, at any rate. ;-P
Apparently Morpheus didnt have time to consult THR to learn that he should have walked one aisle over in the gun program to obtain true HKs.
Those arent aimpoints or another reddot on top?
Kharn
Those arent aimpoints or another reddot on top?
Kharn
I was in Best Buy the other day looking for a DVD to distract me, and I noticed that in about 98% of movies with someone holding a gun on the cover, a finger was on the trigger. Hello this is Hollywood calling, we don't really know what we're doing.
I watch movies and can't shut off the part that want's things to be done right. Things are done more professionally in movies like Blackhawk Down. It would be a shame if they weren't. But when it comes to the matrix and other fare, things get sloppy.
That trigger finger is the only real safety.
I watch movies and can't shut off the part that want's things to be done right. Things are done more professionally in movies like Blackhawk Down. It would be a shame if they weren't. But when it comes to the matrix and other fare, things get sloppy.
That trigger finger is the only real safety.
I wonder if that was a conscious decision by Laurence Fishburne. Anyone know if he is a gun nut too? or was this just a fluke and they took the pic before he could get his finger on the trigger?
So those were definately SP-89s? That stinks, I was kind of just hoping that they were some MP5k's with the foregrips removed. Hey, if you have one for each hand you don't really need the grips. I remember watching the "Making Of" documentary for Reloaded and that gun guy seemed pretty knowledgable, and when he was showing off the Glock 18 I think producer Joel Silver said it looked a lot like his G19, so I guess he's probably a pseudo-celebrity who is interested in guns.
FWIW I don't really remember trigger discipline being much of an issue in the Matrix movies because if they had a gun out it was generally pointed at someone.
FWIW I don't really remember trigger discipline being much of an issue in the Matrix movies because if they had a gun out it was generally pointed at someone.
Hollywood knows exactly what it's doing by promoting unsafe firearm use. Check out the Entertainment Industries Council which has instructions on how to promote a negative image of firearms:
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The Entertainment Industries Council http://eiconline.org/violence/ has
a very complete anti-gun agenda underway.
Despite publishing a study by ASI that among other things shows...the
most effective on-screen scenario for making firearms attractive was
found to be their use in self-defense, rated as making guns "somewhat"
or "much more desirable" by 42% of the respondents. The next most
enticing depiction, a "justified shooting", was chosen by 24% of the
sample.
http://eiconline.org/violence/focuson/vol1/3.html ...
.. the EIC recommends to filmmakers that they...
Consider the story potential that may exist in a family filing suit
against a gun manufacturer for injuries or death sustained by a
defective firearm that misfired.
Consider reflecting the reality that homeowners often freeze up or
tremble so badly when trying to use a gun in self-defense that they are
unable to deploy it. Or show them as being too frozen in fear to even
get the gun.
Attempt to provide a positive role model by showing parents making gun
safety inquiries of other households where children visit, asking about
storage, accessibility, and so on.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet1.html
Consider depicting the reality that women are far more likely to be
shot by husbands or lovers than by an intruder. Odds are that a gun in
her home will be used against her rather than in her defense.
Consider occasionally having "junk" guns misfiring or jamming at
critical times, as these guns are prone to do so after a period of use.
Consider depicting people as feeling less safe, rather than more safe,
when they find their neighbors becoming increasingly armed.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet2.html
Consider highlighting the fact that teenagers often act impulsively and
the presense of guns may increase the likelihood that a transient
emotion may turn into a fatal event.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet3.html
Consider having a character use a gun in what he/she believes is
self-defense only to be charged with murder or manslaughter because
it's determined that excessive or unjustified lethal force was
deployed. http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet4.html
Try making the point that having guns in the house may actually
increase the possibility of home invasion robbery since firearms are an
attractive target for theft.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet5.html
Comments can be sent to Mailto:[email protected]
==============================
The Entertainment Industries Council http://eiconline.org/violence/ has
a very complete anti-gun agenda underway.
Despite publishing a study by ASI that among other things shows...the
most effective on-screen scenario for making firearms attractive was
found to be their use in self-defense, rated as making guns "somewhat"
or "much more desirable" by 42% of the respondents. The next most
enticing depiction, a "justified shooting", was chosen by 24% of the
sample.
http://eiconline.org/violence/focuson/vol1/3.html ...
.. the EIC recommends to filmmakers that they...
Consider the story potential that may exist in a family filing suit
against a gun manufacturer for injuries or death sustained by a
defective firearm that misfired.
Consider reflecting the reality that homeowners often freeze up or
tremble so badly when trying to use a gun in self-defense that they are
unable to deploy it. Or show them as being too frozen in fear to even
get the gun.
Attempt to provide a positive role model by showing parents making gun
safety inquiries of other households where children visit, asking about
storage, accessibility, and so on.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet1.html
Consider depicting the reality that women are far more likely to be
shot by husbands or lovers than by an intruder. Odds are that a gun in
her home will be used against her rather than in her defense.
Consider occasionally having "junk" guns misfiring or jamming at
critical times, as these guns are prone to do so after a period of use.
Consider depicting people as feeling less safe, rather than more safe,
when they find their neighbors becoming increasingly armed.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet2.html
Consider highlighting the fact that teenagers often act impulsively and
the presense of guns may increase the likelihood that a transient
emotion may turn into a fatal event.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet3.html
Consider having a character use a gun in what he/she believes is
self-defense only to be charged with murder or manslaughter because
it's determined that excessive or unjustified lethal force was
deployed. http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet4.html
Try making the point that having guns in the house may actually
increase the possibility of home invasion robbery since firearms are an
attractive target for theft.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet5.html
Comments can be sent to Mailto:[email protected]
i can't speak for Tamara, but... the matrix is the matrix, you can have anything you want, right?
So I want some nice 1000 grain, .75" meplat rounds appearing a few inches in front of whatever i want to hit, travelling roughly 4500fps.
No gun necessary. if it *were* necessary.... alright then, how about a SAW in .223 with some nice soft point or polymer tipped expanding rounds?
So I want some nice 1000 grain, .75" meplat rounds appearing a few inches in front of whatever i want to hit, travelling roughly 4500fps.
No gun necessary. if it *were* necessary.... alright then, how about a SAW in .223 with some nice soft point or polymer tipped expanding rounds?
I don't think that's entirely conversant with the rules of the Matrix. Try again. ;-P
The problem with the SAW is that it's a big hulking rifle--you're probably going to have to stick to stuff that's concealable/easily portable for all the running about.
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In the special features section on the DVD for the first Matrix film, there's a segment where they show all of the actors getting basic firearms instruction from Hollywood gun wrangler Rock Galloti (sp?).
If I was in the Matrix I would carry a snub nose J frame that somehow carried 10,000 rounds. Oh yeah, the bullets would balloon up to 30mm after exiting the muzzle and hyper-excelerate to 60,000 FPS. There would be no recoil, and I would be able to hit a fly at 1,400 yards with out even trying hard. When the badguys were being particularly intense I would hit the selector switch and use my plutonium death rounds. You don't want to know what those do.
it just occured to me
does anyone realize how insanely fast those Desert Eagles pistols would have to cycle in order to spit rounds out that close together. When we look at them in slo-mo matrix time, it looks like one round follows another by a distance of only 1 yard or so. Considering that the average 50 AE round goes something like 1400 fps, this translates to a cyclic rate of ~470 rounds *per second* or 28,000 rpm. In a Desert Eagle? I don't think so.
does anyone realize how insanely fast those Desert Eagles pistols would have to cycle in order to spit rounds out that close together. When we look at them in slo-mo matrix time, it looks like one round follows another by a distance of only 1 yard or so. Considering that the average 50 AE round goes something like 1400 fps, this translates to a cyclic rate of ~470 rounds *per second* or 28,000 rpm. In a Desert Eagle? I don't think so.
I'd go with that little shoulder mounted laser thing the alien in Predator had. It's light, sees in infra-red, seldom misses and never runs out of ammo.
To conceal it, just glue on some colored feathers and tell everybody it's a parrot.
To conceal it, just glue on some colored feathers and tell everybody it's a parrot.
Same here. Although I did notice Neo's finger on the trigger of the skorpion(?) that majesticly fired .223.
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