Green Laser vs. Red Laser

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I've not been a fan of laser sights primarily because they are very difficult to practice with in normal outdoor range shooting sessions where "run and gun" scenarios allowed. Although I do have a couple on pistols I carry as a backup.

I recently got a S&W Shield 2.0 with built in Green laser. I was amazed at the difference -- I could easily see the green laser on the steel plates at ~15 yards in bright sunlight, the red laser built into my BG380 was invisible on the plates that same morning.

The BG380 has been carried a lot for several years, but practice with the laser has been very infrequent. When we get a dim enough day where I can see it on the plates, I do run a few mags with it and it has held zero perfectly. So I am comfortable with it for carry where the light is almost certain to be poor if its ever actually needed.

Check out this composite photo of green vs. red laser dot on my pool deck at about noon on a painfully bright Houston not-summer day:
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Find the red laser dot in the sun.
(Hint Bottom left corner)

The green laser is actually significantly easer to see in the bright sun than it is the photo which is why the composition of the red sunlight photo is so poor I couldn't see the red laser at all through the viewfinder and had to (point shoot) the camera.

In this kind of lighting an LCD screen is utterly useless. The difference in "color balance" of the camera vs. the eye makes the red laser look better and the green look worse than they really are to my eyes.

OTOH if you are red-green color blind I doubt either laser will be of much use :)
 
I've owned both and agree that the green was easier to see, especially in daylight. Enjoy your new Shield.
 
Green vs red. Reminds me of my recent trip to New Mexico. Anyone having been through those parts knows what I'm talking about.
What about pricing? Are green laser sights more expensive to produce that red ones? The only green ones I was familiar with were made by Viridians and they were so pricey I didn't ever consider trying/buying one. Their major selling point is that the green is much more visible than red during daylight.
Incidentally, I prefer "Christmas style"- a little bit of both.
 
LaserMax makes both red and green and on their web site , www.lasermax.com in the support section under FAQ's there's a green vs. red question that gets answered with this: " Although individual perceptions vary, the shorter wavelength of green light is more immediately visible to the human eye than light produced at any other point of the spectrum. While our eyes are adapted to see green better, all of LaserMax's commercial lasers are 5mW ( the highest power output permitted by law), so green lasers are not technically any brighter than the red.". I discovered that when I was toying with the idea of a laser for a Glock and had heard lots of good stuff about LaserMax. I've also heard from owners of lasers that the greens were easier to see and this pretty much backs that up. Still haven't decided if I really need a laser all that much but it's nice to do some research and learn more about them in advance before I take the plunge.
 
Wally, about 4 years ago, I bought a Keltec PMR-30 (.22 Mag) which has a picitinny rail molded into the frame under the barrel. Then, I got lucky again in the fall of 2016. Academy Sports opened up a new store locally that summer and a couple of months later had a half-price sale on laser sights and I got an "iProtec Q series SC-G" for $50.
I had been trying red, green, and even a blue laser at the local gunshows for about a year before that. The size of the aperture is also important as it governs "dot" size. Some of those green lasers had small apertures that made them almost as hard to see as the red ones with larger apertures.
This is a laser only as I wanted no confusion over which switch or which way to push or how many times, etc. I would rather carry a small flashlight in my weak hand as it supports my strong hand.
FYI - most men have some degree of red/green color-blindness with the red side usually being more affected. It is one of those "sex-linked traits" (like hemophilia) that afflict more men than women.
 
Hmm. I use a green laser as a star finder on my astronomical telescopes. The green laser beam is completely visible from point of origin to apparent infinity. Makes a great tool to explain constellations to people who are not familiar with the night sky.
Connection to shooting? if you were to use the green laser at night, it would be easy to pinpoint your exact location merely by looking at the beam.

Pete
 
I love lasers. Many people consider them a gimmick but I can do things with a laser that would almost be impossible with any thing else. Like shooting from the hip with great accuracy and shooting around an object with my eyes looking around one side and a gun on another side. Tracking back to the shooter is all but impossible in that setup at least to the point that a BG won't know where to shoot when you're behind cover.

I've shot a flying bat with a .22 shooting from the hip (it built a nest in my chimney and became very aggressive guarding it). Try that with a red dot sight. They have their limitations and drawbacks but they have a big upside. For SD an instant on-off switch is much better. Push a button it's on and let up on the button and it's off. Momentary contact switches are the way to go.
 
When I first got my Viridian C5L for my carry weapons, I compared it to a CT red laser I had on a Ruger P94 at the same time. In the middle of the day around 1PM I had a hard time seeing the red laser in my own shadow. But the green laser was visible on the brown dumpster about 10 yards away down the driveway. I sold the Ruger and the CT laser grips not long after that.

The only green ones I was familiar with were made by Viridians and they were so pricey I didn't ever consider trying/buying one.

How so? Crimson Trace is easily the most popular laser maker for firearms. They started making grip activated lasers that were model specific. So if you had a 1911 and a Glock, you would need more than one to fit each firearm you used for carry. On the other hand, I haven't found a firearm yet that Viridian hasn't fit on, as long as the weapon had a rail. Spending $300 each on a Crimson Trace isn't as economical as one or two Viridians.
 
Seeing how my Crimson Trace Green laser factory equipped Shield 2.0 was like $422 Compared to like $360 for models without it, It seem prices have come down a lot on these things. I'm planning to run another 100+ rounds through it tomorrow to see how well it holds zero (I expect it to be well based on the red factory laser on my BG380).

Like with red dot optics or scopes, you have potential zero shift issues when you move among guns so IMHO its not really practical to "share" among carry guns unless you have a range outside your back-door :)

if you were to use the green laser at night, it would be easy to pinpoint your exact location merely by looking at the beam.
The same can be said about weapons lights or even hand-held flashlights.

For a self-defense gun, my position is already "given away" or I wouldn't be a potential target! so "stealth" is way less important than making my shots count!
 
OTOH if you are red-green color blind I doubt either laser will be of much use :)
colorblindness affects the ability to identify the color of light, not to detect it - bright is bright, dim is dim, doesn't matter what name you put on it. Further, lasers are necessarily only operating on one wavelength, which reduces the conflicting or confusing information that drives color misidentification.

(I get that it was a jest, but you managed to hit on one of the areas where colorblindness has the absolute minimum impact)
 
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