PPS43 SBR

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Hi everyone I've just joined to get a little info on my first Form 1. I've selected the PPS43 for it's slender profile and cool factor. I'm hoping someone has done this before and might be able to inform about common hangups and stumbling stones. Thanks!
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Welcome to The High Road! Good choice. First take a look at how your stock was fixed in place, some were welded others just have an extended size button that won't fit through the hole. Those are easier to remove. Depending on your skill level, you could buy a parts kit (still pretty cheap and some come with extra mags and pouches) and cut the back piece of the receiver off and weld on the folding section from the parts kit. It can definitely be done!
 
I havent taken possession yet so I have to wait still..

But I've heard these suffer from light strikes with hard military primers. Is there a modification to fix that? If they run fine with commercial primers, that's fine too...
 
I havent taken possession yet so I have to wait still..

But I've heard these suffer from light strikes with hard military primers. Is there a modification to fix that? If they run fine with commercial primers, that's fine too...
I didn't have any issues with light strikes......buuuuuuuuuut....
The newly added fire control group takes up a lot of real estate in the receiver- so much so in fact, that it was fouling the edge of the receiver catch at the rear and preventing it from locking fully. The first time I fired it, the receiver blew open, the bolt and spring flew out, the mag dropped, and loose rounds went everywhere. Fortunately, little Timmy (me) didn't lose an eye.....
The problem was they had bent the catch plate in the lower receiver to allow the fire control group to fit. I was able to get it to latch better after a few minutes with pliers and a Dremel, but I never really trusted it after that.
I put maybe 200 more rounds through it without incident, then sold it.
IMO, the military surplus parts on the PPS were top notch quality, but the newly made semi-auto conversion bits are "meh" at best. The fire control group is obviously rough-cast, with rather flimsy looking springs and plastic bushings. Ive read of other people having issues with broken springs and hammers, and I.O. customer support and spare parts are unobtanium.
Hope you have better luck with yours than I did! It is a cool looking, accurate, and nice handling gun.
 
Mine did have the "dead bolt" holding the stock closed. All that would have been required to make it a functional folder would be to shorten the bolt and add a spring. If yours is one of these, you will see pretty quickly what I mean when you pop open the receiver. Should take about a half hour with hand tools, a die set, and a bench grinder or cut off wheel.
 
So I finally was able to accept the transfer. Mine also has the dead button. It doesn't appear to be welded. I have a cut receiver with a functional stock on it.

Would I be correct in assuming that all I would have to do is grind away the peened over "rivet", remove the old "T" assembly and button, then enlarge the hole to take the correct parts from the other receiver?
 
I had a non welded stock on PPS43 SBR Project. I cut the pin holding the stock closed and that freed the stock. I used the stock push button and spring from the parts kit ( the original hole is only the size of the original pin shaft). You will need to widen the hole in the receiver to accept the parts kit push button. I used the original stock locking piece and punched out the remaining piece of the stock pin. I peened the parts kit stock pin to the locking piece and was good to go.

Brion
 
I had a non welded stock on PPS43 SBR Project. I cut the pin holding the stock closed and that freed the stock. I used the stock push button and spring from the parts kit ( the original hole is only the size of the original pin shaft). You will need to widen the hole in the receiver to accept the parts kit push button. I used the original stock locking piece and punched out the remaining piece of the stock pin. I peened the parts kit stock pin to the locking piece and was good to go.

Brion

My gunsmith said that it would be more than an hour to do that. I scoffed. He asked me how I would repeen the pin. I asked if he knew how to spot weld. Nothing much changed... so I guess I'm on my own.

How did you enlarge the hole on the receiver without making it looked bubba'd? That's really the only part I'm remotely concerned about is the aesthetic once it's converted.
 
Didn't take me that long to repeen it.

Good drill bit in a hand drill and some cold blue. Looks real good to me.
 
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