Illinois call to action

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https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...ing-and-gun-ban-bills-to-considered-next-week

There's a "take action" button at the NRA-ILA link above.

Here's a synopsis of what is going on this week, text is from the NRA-ILA article.

Senate Bill 1657 would create onerous mandatory regulations, fees potentially in the thousands of dollars and excessive amounts of red tape that would almost assuredly force the closure of many firearm dealers, and prevent prospective owners from opening new ones. The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) already licenses and closely monitors all federally licensed firearm dealers (FFLs) and strictly enforces any violation of federal law.

We also expect legislation to be introduced to ban many types of commonly-owned semi-automatic rifles as well and standard capacity magazines that hold more than ten rounds of ammunition. This legislation attempts to brand these firearms as “assault weapons” to drum up unnecessary fear of their ownership. In reality, these firearms are only being defined by aesthetic features that in no way affect the functionality of the rifle. Semi-automatic firearms only fire one shot per action of the trigger, and such technology has been available to American consumers for over a century. Semi-automatic rifles and standard capacity magazines are commonly owned by law-abiding citizens for various purposes such as self-defense, recreation, competition, and hunting.

My personal commentary below;

* We already have some of the nations' strongest mental health and "mandatory revocation" language in the country, with a "clear and present danger" system in place that has mandatory reporting for school officials and medical health professionals that automatically revokes gun rights.

* We already have universal background checks in place which cover private transfers of firearms.

* We have one of the strictest "shall issue" concealed carry bills in the country with a long list of prohibited places, incredibly high licensing fees, and extensive training requirements.

But a tragedy 1,000+ miles away, in a state with totally different laws than ours, is enough to justify our anti-gun representatives goals of taking away lawfully possessed firearms and accessories. If the assault weapons bill that is submitted this week is the same basic one that they have repeatedly tried to pass, it will very likely include forced confiscation language which would make it a felonious act for any person who does not surrender their firearms to the proper authorities in a timely fashion, without any financial reimbursement for the possessions.

This goes to prove the old saying we all know is true: " Give them an inch, and they will want a mile more "

The message we need to send to the state legislature is that NO MORE LAWS will change things. Criminals ignore the ones we already have, and they will continue to ignore them, regardless of what feel-good anti-gun legislation is passed. Quit punishing law abiding gun owners for the acts of criminals!
 
We have at least 4 more gun control bills now in addition to 1657 - the Gun Dealer "Licensing" bill. And they're being ram-rodded through the sham commitees.

What I've noticed is different this time around is that the anti-gun activists from all over the country are filling out witness slips in support of these bills. A committee chair actually commented on how many witness slips had been filled out in favor of one of the bills.

We really need people to get involved, learn how to fill out witness slips, file the witness slips in opposition to all of these gun control bills, write e-mails to the representatives in the Illinois General Assembly and make phone calls - today, preferably before noon.
 
We lost our behinds today. Every single anti-gun bill that was called for a reading passed, many with veto-proof majorities.

Fortunately there was no assault weapon ban or magazine ban called. Those folks were on a roll.

See, all of those anti-gun organizations that we're so snide about being incompetent?

They whopped our butts today. They had a huge turnout.. and gun owners had.. nothing but some electronically filed witness slips. Which was brought up one time in debate. And did exactly no good.

Anti gun organizations mobilized their people and got them - en mass - to Springfield. They coordinated, organized, mobilized, even had matching T-Shirts all printed up in blood red, to fill the gallery.

Pro gun organizations... didn't really do any organizing whatsoever. Sure, the NRA-ILA sent out a last minute alert and ISRA even later than that... (And ISRA also threw us right under the bus on a couple of the bills, taking a "training activity" carve out for folks under 21 to possess rifles to switch their support..)

Not a very good day for us. The folks at IL carry (who I admittedly have not always agreed with, but that's neither here nor there) and GunsSaveLives seem to be the only ones really still in this fight.

We cannot win if we are always on the defensive. Especially if we don't even get one busload of people down when it matters.

Today was a wake up call for everyone else in the country to learn from our mistakes - complacency... well, complacency is a guaranteed way to lose.

 
If you haven't done so, please call Governor Rauner's office today at 217-782-0244. He needs to hear from more of us than anti's so he doesn't cave to them.
 
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****UPDATE ON LEGISLATIVE ISSUES CONCERNING ILLINOIS****

Per Todd Vandermyde


SB-1657 passed the House 64 – 52. It has been sent to the Governor for his consideration.
SB-1273 the “trailer” bill was passed and has been sent to the Governor for his consideration.
ACTION ITEMS: Call and write the Governor and ask him to veto SB-1657 & SB-1273.

HB-1469 a magazine ban on those that hold over 10 rounds has NOT been called yet.
HB-1664 which creates an Dangerous persons hotline for people to report gun owners anonymously and for State Police to require mental health screening in order to get a FOID card.
ACTION ITEM: Call your representative and urge them to vote NO on these bills.

The House passed these three bills and they are due to be considered when the senate returns the week of the 13th.
• HB 1465 – increases age to purchase or possess semi-auto rifles & shotguns to 21.
• HB 1467 – bans sale, purchase, transfer or possession of bump stocks and trigger cranks.
• HB 1468 – increases waiting period on rifles to 72 hours.

Other bills that may be considered by the Senate Judiciary committee are:
• SB 2314 – Grants municipalities authority to regulate possession and ownership of assault weapons (takes it away from State of Illinois).
• SB 3297 – Bans the transfer of an assault weapon, .50 caliber firearm, and large capacity magazines of more than 10 rounds.
• SB 3298 – Requires local law enforcement agency to approve conceal carry licenses (in addition to IL State Police).

ACTION ITEM: Call your Senator and urge them to vote against these bills

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MAKE THE CALLS PEOPLE!!
 
Ugh this has turned in to an avalanche

New house hearings 3/6 at 3:30 PM Room 114

HB258 "phone replica firearm"
HB3390 "firearm owners id-revoke"
HB4185 "correctional officer firearms"
HB4218 "FOID- patient definition"
HB4402 "Juv. Subsequent firearm offense"
HB4403 "Firearms - Judicial Officers"
HB4502 "Display of imitation firearms"
HB4662 "Cook county coorections probation-firearms"
HB4851 "Concealed Carry Exemption"
HB4880 "Prohibit Bump Stock"
HB5492 "Firearms-Revocation"

I haven't had a chance to even look at all these new ones yet.
 
"Why are we getting slaughtered in Illinois politics?"

Here's a lesson in Illinois politics. Follow the money.

http://www.gunssavelife.com/illinoi...o-comment-springfield-armory-rock-river-arms/

Tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions towards anti-gun senators and representatives apparently buys you an "anti-gun" day in Springfield.

I really don't know how a grassroots Pro-2A effort can stand up to bought-and-paid-for politicians, to be honest. It really has me scratching my head.

It seems like the only time we get pro-gun legislation in Illinois is when the IL or US Supreme Court orders it after blatant constitutional violations.

But fighting stuff after it passed is a different subject altogether.
 
The original TTAG article is here. Great piece of investigative journalism here, digging in to IL gun manufacturers paying off IL senators and representatives to get "carve outs" from the anti-gun legislation.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...contributions-to-anti-gun-rights-politicians/

They actually found somewhere north of 40K in campaign contributions by anti-gun lobbyists to legislator's campaign funds, which were apparently NOT reported to the State Board of Elections.

Makes you wonder where that money really went?

Although something tells me there won't ever be a legal investigation about that. Not in this state.
 
An avalanche is right, and seeing how they have the momentum they're going to push for everything they can. As bad as things are getting now, Illinois has a longer term problem. We're near or at the top nationally as far as people leaving. I'm guessing there are more people leaving that disagree with what's going on (which is why they're leaving) than those who agree, leaving more left leaning voters and making it easier to get these types of bills passed. We need to keep calling and e-mailing our representatives in order to put a stop to this.
 
If any of you would like to help counter this wave of anti hysteria, it would be wonderful if you show up for the Illinois Gun Owner's Lobby Day, otherwise called IGold.
It will include a rally at the convention center in Springfield, followed up with a march down city streets to the Capital building. At that point, we pour into the building and try and corner our senators and representatives (many take a powder) about the issues that need their attention.

Soo - if you feel like walking with a few thousand friends, inundating the House and Senate offices, and making your presence known, come on down and join us. The rally starts at 10 a.m. of APRIL 25, 2018.
 
I live in southern FOIDISTAN. I've given all I can to to the ISRA. I'm already ready to go by the way of Connecticut . The ISRA has been a disappointment . FOIDISTAN will get my guns about as fast as they fix the roads down here!!!!
 
Illinois has a longer term problem. We're near or at the top nationally as far as people leaving.

I know someone who moved to Indiana last week, someone I knew from work. I didn't even know he was a gun owner until he told me his reasons for leaving Illinois:

1) High taxes
2) Corrupt government
3) At his property in Indiana he can do target shooting off his back porch.

What is happening in Illinois is called "The Curley Effect"

It is generally thought in economics that good policies bring in resources and voters; bad ones keep them out. With the Curley effect, this result is reversed. When politicians seeking to stay in power use distortionary policies to force out their political opponents, it renders bad policies more, rather than less, attractive.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1891

More and more hard-working, tax-paying, law-abiding gun owners move out of Illinois every week, leaving fewer and fewer of us in Illinois to impact elections or lobby politicians to abide by the Second Amendment.
 
But still... I'm going to schedule a day off to go to IGOLD, and I'm going to see if I can take my kids with me. Hopefully, by that time, Governor Rauner will have vetoed the Gun Dealer licensing bill.
 
Rainer will sit on it until after the primaries. Bet on it. He has proven to be a ghost of his wife's liberal beliefs and attitudes. I'm frustrated. We have no choice on either side for governor.
If we do, please enlighten me. I'm serious. Ives?
 
Rainer will sit on it until after the primaries. Bet on it. He has proven to be a ghost of his wife's liberal beliefs and attitudes. I'm frustrated. We have no choice on either side for governor.
If we do, please enlighten me. I'm serious. Ives?

PapaG - I recently got an email from a person involved in local politics with whom I worked on the 2014 & 2016 elections. He is pro-Ives and his letter detailed that Rauner is lying about Ives.
 

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Ives already has my vote. Rauner lost me when he flip flopped on abortion! Saying one thing in a flyer is different than already carried through actions. Plus I know his wife is a staunch liberal. Kinda reminds me of how I felt after voting for Ted Cruz only to find out a week later that his wife was (is) a member of the CFR(Council on Foreign Relations).
 
They're voting on a 10 round magazine limit today. It's HB 1469. They're ramming through everything they can. What's incomprehensible to me is that this is driven by the Chicago politicians. With failing schools, high crime rates and all the financial problems we have, they've made attacking legal gun owners their priority. Imagine what they could do if they addressed the state's real problems with this much enthusiasm.
 
Imagine what they could do if they addressed the state's real problems with this much enthusiasm.
Most of the states problems are cause by the same politicians that are pushing gun control. It isn't due to incompetence or ignorance. It is part of a carefully planned strategy to maintain and expand power. And it's been working well in Illinois for a long time.

C0untZero's post 14 explains it well.
 
Most of the states problems are cause by the same politicians that are pushing gun control. It isn't due to incompetence or ignorance. It is part of a carefully planned strategy to maintain and expand power. And it's been working well in Illinois for a long time.

C0untZero's post 14 explains it well.

Understood. It was meant as a rhetorical statement. Seeing what's been going on this week, and especially waking up to that e-mail this morning has had a calming effect on me in that I've made the decision to move as soon as possible. The article regarding the Curley Effect is spot on, and is absolutely happening here.
 
Great to hear. Perhaps he got off dead center after some rights organizations started endorsing Ives. He has been, so far, anything but conservative. I called to ask for a veto of this. I'll call to thank him, after it happens.
 
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