just put on layaway a new marlin 336y 30-30 so is the 30-30 still bein used for deer and hogs today?

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I was wondering why the Y model?
well truth be told I have my first 30-30 my dad purchased for me when I was 12 years old in which a few years later I had hurt my back and had two surgerys later when I was 18 and 19 years old now I am 42 and my disk in my lower back is falling apart and causing more trouble as I get older so now the weight when I carry much anything makes me hurt more now than it used to so I needed something lighter and easier to carry when I go hunting for deer or hogs but have slowed down for the hogs but still hunt deer but yeah I also own a marlin 336 as well but its even heavier than my win 94 as it has a scope on the 94 and the 336 doesn't but the youth 336y was so much lighter and so let me tell you some days my back is good and others not so good and so when I carry enough weight my back knows it and lets me know really quick so I am tryin to keep hunting but needed to lightin the load a bit to make it easier on my back! plus I am not gonna put a scope on the 336y just iron sights so as to keep it light as possible!
 
Just put on layaway a new marlin 336y 30-30 so is the 30-30 still being used for deer and hogs today?

Been some years since my good friend Herm died but every year I would make my trip to West Virginia to Deer Hunt with Herm. If West Virginia has a state cartridge it would be the 30-30 Winchester cartridge. Matter of fact as I recall I could buy gas, food and beer just using 30-30 ammunition as barter. I didn't hunt West Virginia with a 30-30 but always brought along several hundred rounds just to make new friends and pay my beer bills. Herman passed away some years ago but the 30-30 I doubt will ever pass away. Matter of fact I see the cartridge as alive and well on a pretty national basis. Rumors of its death are highly exaggerated. :)

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I was wondering why the Y model?
The Y model is for youth and is more compact than other models. The butt stock is a little shorter and the barrel 16" or so. The total length is around 36". Shorter models are very convenient in brush/woods hunting but a big plus is the shorter butt stock LOP when wearing heavy winter clothes.
 
Just wondering, was not arguing against, just curious the logic unless for a child or a smaller person. We all come in different sizes and shapes, good that occasionally there are models that accommodate those differences.
 
Just wondering, was not arguing against, just curious the logic unless for a child or a smaller person. We all come in different sizes and shapes, good that occasionally there are models that accommodate those differences.
yeah no biggie 3crows I understand! so I hunt a public place about 15 miles from me and I have a disability permit to hunt out of my truck but problem is there's no place for me to hunt out of my truck there, so I have to get out and go in the woods on foot which is at times getting hard to do but I would rather hunt that way but my health isn't all that great. so just trying to keep the deer hunting tradition alive and I love hunting etc!
 
I own ten model 94 Winchesters and eight of them are chambered for the .30 - 30 round. Four of the eight are pre - 64 rifles. In my opinion I don’t believe there’s been a better rifle built for its intended purpose. I’ve also killed a number of deer with the round. That said you have to respect the limitations of the round which IMO is not further than 200 yards. Past 200 yards the issue isn’t so much the question of power but shot placement. Past the 200 yard range, with iron sights, your point of reference is pretty much the entire deer as the front sight pretty much sub-tends the entire animal at longer ranges making accurate shot placement an extremely iffy proposition. Even with a scoped rifle I would not bust a cap on a deer out past 200 yards as the residual energy of the round starts trailing off significantly. Past 300 yards...never. Now I will be the first one to admit that if the round hit a vital spot out past 300 yards that it would kill a deer. For that matter if a 22 long rifle bullet hit a deer in exactly the right spot at a distance of a mile I’m sure it would kill a deer also. But I sure wouldn’t recommend shooting at deer at this distance with a 22 because there are any number of other rounds that are more powerful, flatter shooting and much better suited to the task and so it is with the 30 - 30 IMO.
 
I own ten model 94 Winchesters and eight of them are chambered for the .30 - 30 round. Four of the eight are pre - 64 rifles. In my opinion I don’t believe there’s been a better rifle built for its intended purpose. I’ve also killed a number of deer with the round. That said you have to respect the limitations of the round which IMO is not further than 200 yards. Past 200 yards the issue isn’t so much the question of power but shot placement. Past the 200 yard range, with iron sights, your point of reference is pretty much the entire deer as the front sight pretty much sub-tends the entire animal at longer ranges making accurate shot placement an extremely iffy proposition. Even with a scoped rifle I would not bust a cap on a deer out past 200 yards as the residual energy of the round starts trailing off significantly. Past 300 yards...never. Now I will be the first one to admit that if the round hit a vital spot out past 300 yards that it would kill a deer. For that matter if a 22 long rifle bullet hit a deer in exactly the right spot at a distance of a mile I’m sure it would kill a deer also. But I sure wouldn’t recommend shooting at deer at this distance with a 22 because there are any number of other rounds that are more powerful, flatter shooting and much better suited to the task and so it is with the 30 - 30 IMO.
in 1994 I killed my first deer with that Winchester 94 my dad had gotten for me when I was 12 years old xmas day! it was a 12 point buck field dressed 132lbs and we measured it to be slightly over 140yrds using 170gr bullets! so ever since that time before I started reloading and there after I been using the 170gr bullets and they have performed very well! I have never since then used any other weight of bullet! so yeah guys thanks for the comments and hope to hear more about your hunting stories and comments about using the grand old 30-30 :)
 
I am getting entirely respectable groups with either of my 336 rifles at 250 yards with Lever Revolution ammo, both factory and home brew. I have a period correct Weaver 2.5X fixed with Weaver rings on my 1977 336T and a new Leupold 2X7 with Warne quick release mounts on my new 336SS. I am fully confident I could humanely take deer at that range. Hogs, just because some of them can be tough to kill, the bigger ones, I would stay at 200 as maximum range. 3C
 
I have owned a Winchester 30-30 since 1984 and just picked up another late model 94AE so I could scope it.

The 30-30 is far from dead. Having said that, the LeverEvolution ammo/powder has breathed new life into the caliber and made it a legitimate 200+ yard caliber, provided you are shooting it from an accurate platform (and lever actions are not commonly that accurate).

The latest fad is the Hornady 160gr LeverEvolution ammo.

If you compare the numbers between a standard flat-nosed factory round and a LeverEvolution round, there really is no comparison. It's like two completely different guns.
 
Every deer I ever killed was with a Marlin 336 30-30, not the same gun, have had a few over the years. Every deer sustained massive internal damage. These days I hunt just across the road from my house. Its a 250 yard walk to my stand. We've killed several deer in that patch of timber. If I see a deer there it will be 50 yards of less away so I have my current 336 with irons zeroed at 50.
Although I own other guns suitable for deer the 30-30 is just perfect for my situation.

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The Hornady FTX Bullets have really given a great kick in performance to the ol' 30-30. When handloaded with stiff load of Leverevolution powder you can get about 2450FPS with the 140g FTX. With a 200 yd zero you bullet never rises more than 3.1" above then line of sight and drops 5.2 at 250. Not bad for a 120 year old cartridge
 
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The Hornady FTX Bullets have really given a great kick in performance to the ol' 30-30. When handloaded with stiff load of Leverevolution powder you can get about 2450FPS with the 140g FTX. With a 200 yd zero you bullet never rises more than 3.1" above then line of sight and drops 5.2 at 250. Not bad for a 120 year old cartridge
The 160-grain LeverEvolution ammo out of my rifle will still retain over 1000 ft. lbs. at 250 yards. A factory box of Federal 150 flat nose falls below 100 ft. lbs. of energy at just over 125 yards. The Hornady bullets and LeverEvolution powder have reinvented these great old guns, which is why I now need a scope on my Winchester 94. LOL
 
I have a few laying around and still use. Mostly Winchesters (models 64 and 94), one other bolt gun and an odd Contender with a 8" barrel.

Like most of us I’m pretty knowledgeable in a number of areas and woefully ignorant in others. I wasn’t aware of the Model 64 and just did some reading on it. Which led me to the discontinued Model 336A with 24” barrel that I was unaware of. I’d really like one. Or I’d like a 336XLR with wood furniture instead of laminate.
 
Like most of us I’m pretty knowledgeable in a number of areas and woefully ignorant in others. I wasn’t aware of the Model 64 and just did some reading on it. Which led me to the discontinued Model 336A with 24” barrel that I was unaware of. I’d really like one. Or I’d like a 336XLR with wood furniture instead of laminate.
Yeah the models with the 1/2 or 3/4 mag are very nice looking. My M/g 36 is like that. The 30TK also is the short mag tube with a straight grip and square finger lever.
 
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