Jerry Miculek on the md19 Classic

We'll see.

Well the craftsmanship/attention to detail, or qualitiy control may not be to the same level. But their engineering and technology has definitely improved.

Better metals are now available ( yes they may use MIM parts, but they work and they are getting better with time and improved tec)and a better cylinder lockup method which lead the ability to use a beefier forcing cone may indeed mean that it is a better weapon. Sure it's not the same to purists because it's got the "zit" or Mim parts , but from a design aspect I feel it's been improved.

However when listening to his opinion. Keep in mind that he is sponsored by SW and in the first few lines Jerry admits that he is a revolver guy,does it for a living, and SW sends him revolvers to shoot. So...even though he is a freak of nature when it comes to shooting, it doesn't mean he has an unbiased opinion in regards to SW

Well I like mine so thanks Jerry .............. Shoots awesome. It's not for everybody but it's nice to have something new to play with, I like it a lot !!!!

357 Terms said:

"Making them better than they have ever been made before"

Kinda goes against a lot of what is said around here.

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You’ve only paid attention to the negative opinions, then. There have been plenty of positive reviews too.

Old Dog said:

We'll see.

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Yes, We will.

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They're both shooters.

I've heard a lot of people gripe because it's called a "classic." Well, I can't speak for S&W, but it is a "classic" in that the sense that a K-frame 357 revolver is "classic." It's not a direct copy, it's an evolution.

I'm just glad that Smith & Wesson has enough confidence in the revolver buying public that they've willing to bring out new models. They can't be hoping for any police or military sales. They're betting on people like us.

"Stronger than an N-Frame", thats the only that made me raise an eyebrow. I'm not interested but its good to see them working to perfect things.

357 Terms said:

"Making them better than they have ever been made before"

Kinda goes against a lot of what is said around here.

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That may or may not be true but remember, Jerry gets paid to say good things about S&W products, he works for them.

A friend just bought one but I have not had a chance to see/touch/shoot it yet. He tells me it's a great revolver that does rival the original. I can't wait to shoot it.

I want a 3" M13 for carry.

357 Terms said:

Very true, but, he is very knowledgeable and does have a reputation to uphold.

I can't imagine him saying "made better than they have ever been before" is he didn't think the statement had merit, or wasn't totally true.

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I agree but he and his wife both make a very good living shooting for them. It's an added incentive to like their products.

Jerry certainly builds excitement for S&W product/s. I enjoy my -3 versions. The recent Performance center releases I've handled didn't wow me. The trigger on the old ones out of the box felt nicer than the new ones in my small sampling.

Buffalo Bore has claimed that they tend to get higher velocities out of the new S&W revolver barrels than out of the old school stuff. Of course, a 1968 Dodge is cooler than one made 50 years later, so that's probably the same motivation for those of us who collect the old guns. But 1968 Dodges weren't likely to last as long as a 2018.

Which are better, old or new? Each has it's own merits. I would have no problem buying a new Classic model 19, but I already have an old school model 13 and a new school Classic 586, so I'm done.

"Stronger than an L-frame, stronger than an N-frame."

???

I guess that time will tell, but....

His wife?
Denis

That stronger than an L or N frame business sounds like a line written by an add agency. If true the sales of their Classic N-frame 357s and the 8-shot wonder guns should be going down soon.

Dave

I don't accept that the current 19 is stronger than an L or N frame.
Denis

DPris said:

I don't accept that the current 19 is stronger than an L or N frame.
Denis

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Why not?

Maybe one for a video of his: shoot a new one and an old one to see what breaks on the way to 50K+ rounds. Would be interesting to see how the barrels would be for wear and mounting stability based on the sleeve system. The forcing cone should be better over the old ones.

It depends on exactly what he means by "stronger".
If he refers only to the forcing cone, I'll agree.
If he is making a broad statement that the entire GUN is stronger than an L or N, nope.
The K-Frame still has its limitations.
Denis

Jim NE said:

Of course, a 1968 Dodge is cooler than one made 50 years later, so that's probably the same motivation for those of us who collect the old guns. But 1968 Dodges weren't likely to last as long as a 2018.

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Here's wishing I had my first car still, a '66 Dodge Coronet 440 R/T with the 426 ci Hemi ...

Oh ... guns ... yeah ... sorry -- since revolvers are like old muscle cars, the Cool Factor rules. I'm going old school every time. A "Classic" with The Lock and the stupid black paint job that doesn't come close to comparing with S&W's old bluing? Give me a break.