Mossberg enters the handgun market

Seems pretty cool. Best of luck to them with it.

Michael A Ferber said:

PASS! You have to remove the firing pin to take the slide off!

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A lot of people with Glock Leg need this system.

Good Ol' Boy said:

I'm wondering more how practical or ergonomic that's going to be. Seems like it would be odd on a pistol.

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I guess it would depend on hand size. The cross bolt safety is right next to the magazine release. So if you can easily (big hands) reach the magazine release without adjusting the grip too much, it should be easy to turn off. I imagine most would turn the safety on by using their trigger finger (on a right handed person). A chief concern would be training to not hit the wrong button when doing rapid fire drills.

herrwalther said:

I guess it would depend on hand size. The cross bolt safety is right next to the magazine release. So if you can easily (big hands) reach the magazine release without adjusting the grip too much, it should be easy to turn off. I imagine most would turn the safety on by using their trigger finger (on a right handed person). A chief concern would be training to not hit the wrong button when doing rapid fire drills.

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Based on the pictures in the link it looks like you have to push left to fire. Not the most natural thing to do when drawing and acquiring the sights.

Texas10mm said:

Guys,

There's only ONE model that has the crossbolt safety. You can get the pistol without it. Sheesh.

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I was thinking the same thing, I understand voicing your opinion but following it up with, "well at least they have one without the safety."

It looks like a good option to me. I don't prefer safeties on a handgun so I'd probably go without, but I don't mind the crossbolt safety if I had a safety as it's something "unique" and interesting about the gun.

I do however find it sort of comical that Mossberg did the crossbolt safety when they're sort of famous for NOT using a crossbolt safety (and instead using a tang safety) on most of their shotguns, save for the Maverick series.

In general though, I've liked the Mossberg shotguns that I've shot, so I have high hopes for this. To my view Mossberg has a history of making cheap design choices but they build them well and they actually work out fine, whereas Remington starts with a good design but then builds it poorly so it doesn't work.

mgmorden said:

I do however find it sort of comical that Mossberg did the crossbolt safety when they're sort of famous for NOT using a crossbolt safety (and instead using a tang safety) on most of their shotguns, save for the Maverick series.

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I thought this was interesting as well. They had trouble finding a tang on the pistol to put the safety.

Michael A Ferber said:

PASS! You have to remove the firing pin to take the slide off! A cross-bolt safety, LOL. Made on the same assembly line as their $200 Maverick shotguns. PASS!

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First of all, I do not want to make a pass on the gun at this point. So far out of the 3 new guns that have been posted on this forum, I have to say I like the looks of the Mossberg the best. It appears that a lot of shooters much better than myself like the gun from the article. I do like the fact that it does not have a bulky take down lever on the receiver and the receiver has adequate room for normal and larger hands.I cannot say a thing about the Crossbolt safety, simply because I have not tried it. Maybe it is actually is a good safety and Mossberg thinking out of the box. . Can you take the safety off quickly with just part of the thumb?
How well the gun feels in my particular hand, how well I like the trigger, will I like the crossbolt safety, or maybe without a safety, how the recoil feels, and on and on. And the fact that it is made in a facility as the poster says as the Maverick, is a good thing IMO, certainly not something to disparage.Typical internet garbage.
I will keep a open mind on this gun. Usually my club members and I will pitch in and put a thousand rounds through a new gun and compare to others. I will save my judgement when I actually shoot the gun. I certainly hope it is a success. Bravo to Mossberg.

Ps. I have a good friend that recently had a Accidental discharge with his Glock, He is a former retired military Armorer and Glock enthusiast. The Hollow point bullet went through his hip and traveled all the way down his leg. This hits close to home, so as usual always concerned about the trigger on a gun and the safety. It might be this gun does not need a safety, maybe the bolt safety is a great idea. A lot of folks putting this gun down that really do not know a damn thing about it. So Typical of the internet. I will keep a open mind. A narrow mind gets you no where.

Nothing against Mossberg, the more I hear about this gun the more I think it will be a marketing flop.

DairyVet said:

Based on the pictures in the link it looks like you have to push left to fire. Not the most natural thing to do when drawing and acquiring the sights.

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Maybe. But the safety catch is reversible according to Mossberg. My main interest in this firearm is for the mrs hates-my-walthers. She doesn't feel safe carrying a firearm without a manual safety. This caught her eye when I showed her so it is a start. I will keep an eye out for video reviews on this guy for the year.

Fine Figure of a Man said:

Nothing against Mossberg, the more I hear about this gun the more I think it will be a marketing flop.

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Like the Taurus Curve? Yeah. I am hoping it goes well for them. They are trying to come up with something different in a saturated market. The good news is, if their handgun sales flop they still have long gun sales to be content with. Time will tell.

So, perhaps I’m showing my ignorance here, but could someone explain why removing the striker assembly for disassembly is a bad thing? Pistol breaks down like this. Looks pretty basic to me.

Sovblocgunfan said:

So, perhaps I’m showing my ignorance here, but could someone explain why removing the striker assembly for disassembly is a bad thing? Pistol breaks down like this. Looks pretty basic to me.

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I wouldn't pay $100 bucks for it. A very cheap design reminiscent of the old Saturday Night Specials!

Not mine but a much better cheap alternative to the hideous Mossberg, Kel-Tec PF-9 3D

9mmepiphany said:

If you haven't handled both, how can you realistically compare them with any credibility?

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Just look at the photo! Also, I have attended the Sig Sauer Armours School in New Hampshire.

Sovblocgunfan said:

So, perhaps I’m showing my ignorance here, but could someone explain why removing the striker assembly for disassembly is a bad thing? Pistol breaks down like this. Looks pretty basic to me.

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Oh horrors, what will they think of next? A pin you have to push through the side of the slide and barrel, that sometimes is very hard to move, and that scratches your thumb if you don't hold it right when firing? Now that would be absolutely a deal breaker.

I can't believe all the hate for this gun that no one has seen in person.

I think its neat they are getting back into the game. Unfortunately with Shields at $270 right now I don't see these selling for $350.

I'm excited to get my hands on one and try it out!

9mmepiphany said:

I don't think that Armour's course covers esthetics in it's curriculum.

I know that it's courses are limited to their own products and attending them doesn't confer any particular expertise in other platforms.

Granted I haven't attended their courses, but I did study with the gunsmith who was consulted when the course was put together, continues to teach there, and is part of the design team for current products

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Of course it doesn't. He was going to bash the gun, before it was even was on a Blue Print. It is not a Sig and that is all he needed to know. He is a self proclaimed expert because he attended a Sig course. My question, is why with all this knowledge he was not invited to the shoot out to review the pistol?? Typical internet experts. Ya gotta love them. They have so much expertise, they don't even have to fire one, much less handle one or even see one other than a picture..
I wonder if he learned all this in his Sig Course.

The more I read and learn about this pistol, the more I want to try one out. And I bet there well be plenty of shooters that will want to as well.And as I said, I wish Mossberg a lot of good luck with this gun. They are after all a House Hold name with a lot of Americans.

Michael A Ferber said:

PASS! You have to remove the firing pin to take the slide off!

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You don't have to. I never use the sear depressor doohikey on my Shield either. Just pull the trigger like on every other gun.