Affordable 9mm options

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Trey, your description of the trigger is excellent. I called it "unusual" rather than "bad" because I shot it well enough. I tested the little Kel-Tec double-stack 9mm, the Taurus G2, and the Gock 26.

The Kel-Tec had a very stiff trigger. I wasn't able to shoot it as well as the other two.

The Taurus had a trigger just as you described. I shot it just fine.

The Glock had a normal Glock trigger. I shot it just fine, too.

I actually purchased them to test them, but got good deals on all three, so NBD. I traded the KT and spare mag for something else. I kept the Taurus, since it works fine and isn't worth much. The G26 is in my carry rotation. I traded its unwanted laser sight for two or three spare mags.

I hear you on the weak blued Taurus finish. That's why I paid about $25 extra for stainless.
 
The Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 and G2c have second-strike capability, but it seems like a Rube-Goldberg way of doing what a Kahr does with a standard DAO trigger, and IMO the Kahr triggers are much better than the Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 and G2c.

For me I do best with the G2 trigger when I try to treat it like a revolver and just pull through.

The more I tried to treat it like a bullseye pistol, the worse my shot groups became.

I noticed that the SAR B6P is going for $220.00 + 5.00 S&H

Man that is a GREAT deal.
 
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Every time I look at that picture of my Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 I think "Why is there so much bare metal showing? The mag release button has bare metal showing , the slide stop has bare metal showing, the manual thumb safety has bare metal showing..."

I look at the exteriors of my Glocks and the finish on the exterior is still perfect.

Ugh... this is what you get on a sub-$200 gun. I experience that initial joy from getting a functioning gun for under 200 bucks, but then everything else about the gun slowly starts to grate on my nerves.

Oh well, it sits in a GHB where I don't have to look at it too much and if, God forbid, I ever have to put on a GHB and start walking, I be overjoyed to have the Millennium G2 with me.
 
C0untZer0 said:
The Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 and G2c have second-strike capability, but it seems like a Rube-Goldberg way of doing what a Kahr does with a standard DAO trigger, and IMO the Kahr triggers are much better than the Taurus Millennium G2 PT111 and G2c.
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Please pardon me if I misunderstand, but just to clear it up: Kahrs do not have a second-strike capability. Their fire control system is no different from any other striker fired gun, in respect to the function.
 
You certainly don't have to spend much to own a quality 9mm these days.

In the past few months, I've purchased a S&W SD9, a Beretta APX and Ruger SR (the last two not exactly budget, but still completely affordable and nice),and not one, but two Sarsalmaz SAR9s. I also own a couple Caniks (TP9 and TP9V2) and a Ruger 9E. They're all wonderful and most can be found under $300.

My winter carry M&P9c 2.0 photobombed this photo of my 1st SAR9, TP9V2, TP9, and 9E.
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The SAR9 would be the winner of the of these as far as quality and price are concerned. It's a real sleeper.

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Snowdog said:
You certainly don't have to spend much to own a quality 9mm these days.
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Definitely appears to be the case. The Turkish military quickly adopted the SAR pistol as its issue handgun; both the SAR and the Canik pistols have been receiving a lot of favorable reviews.
 
Oh ya... Kahrs do not have second-strike capability. If the slide doesn't cycle, you have a dead trigger.

Maybe the R9 would have been a better comparison...I know the R9 is a tiny gun. It just seems that the Taurus has a complicated setup and bad trigger feel to accomplish second-strike capability when a DAO trigger would have accomplished the same thing with a better trigger pull. My Taurus Millenium G2 has a less consistent SA trigger pull than DA pull. I took a Lyman trigger gauge to it and the DA pull averages out to be 6 lbs, 9.6 oz over 10 trigger pulls. The single action trigger pull averages out to 7 lbs, 6.5 oz and the SA trigger pull has a wider spread of results. I had one pull where it was 8 lbs, one pull where it was 6 lbs, 12 oz. The DA trigger pull is generally right around 6 lbs 9 oz each time. I had a high of 6 lbs 12 oz and a low of 6 lbs 8 ounces - a much narrower set of figures than the SA trigger metrics.
 
The Zenith Girsan MC28SA was going for $199.99 + $4.99 S&H during Black Friday sales.

The B6Pc can be had for $199.99 + $4.99 S&H from CDNN Sports
 
Kabic said:
Haven't seen a recent topic on this, but would like options/opinions on affordable ($350 or less) 9mm handguns, preferably with double stacked magazines that could be concealed.

Ruger Security 9, S&W SD 9, Canik TP9 DA, EAA Witness Polymer are some of things I have been reading about and watching videos on.

I'm not sure if hammer fired or striker fired matters to me.
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Going back to the OP, in case a decision has not been made . . . . If I were looking for this ("affordable ($350 or less) 9mm handguns, preferably with double stacked magazines that could be concealed."), the first thing I think is "used." Is that an option for you? Around here, you'd be lucky to get a used G19 for <$350, but you might get lucky. So, I'd be looking for that or a used SR9c, or maybe a Shield. I won't make a huge list of all the ones I'd be watching for, just because I'm sure you've gotten plenty of suggestions already.
 
Locally it means second-hand Daewoo, Steyr or Grand Power K for $300 or less. I did pick up like new PPS M1 for $250+tax so one never knows what will be in a cabinet display. Never look at used Glocks, Sigs or H&K because they are expensive.
 
Deanimator said:
Used police surplus Glock 19.

I got mine from Summit Gunbroker.

An added bonus was the neat VA Beach Sheriff's Department roll mark.
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The .40s in duty & compact are affordable and ammo will be at Walmart at hight of shortage crisis. That is a lovely combo. Mamma mia!
 
My dad has a Ruger SR-9C we shot quite a bit, bought for $300 used OTD. IMO, it is a very capable handgun. I also picked up a Ruger Security 9 last week, they go for in the $300 neighborhood used. I haven't fired it yet, but hickock45 (youtube) reviewed them positively.
 
Snowdog said:
You certainly don't have to spend much to own a quality 9mm these days.

In the past few months, I've purchased a S&W SD9, a Beretta APX and Ruger SR (the last two not exactly budget, but still completely affordable and nice),and not one, but two Sarsalmaz SAR9s. I also own a couple Caniks (TP9 and TP9V2) and a Ruger 9E. They're all wonderful and most can be found under $300.

My winter carry M&P9c 2.0 photobombed this photo of my 1st SAR9, TP9V2, TP9, and 9E.
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The SAR9 would be the winner of the of these as far as quality and price are concerned. It's a real sleeper.

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SAR9 $297 at Buds. Less than 5 left. You snooze you looze.
 
I am not a big fan of carrying a thick double stacked 9mm, at least IWB. But in that category, I think it’s very hard to beat a used G26. Reliable, easy to work on, tons of accessories, and most people shoot it as well as a full size gun. I am more accurate with G26 than G19.
 
Jeb Stuart said:
Ditto on the Ruger SR9C and the fact that they just DIScontinued them, maybe you can get a great price. Even the prices new now are great for such a quality gun.

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Build quality is excellent.

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That is probably the finest centerfire pistol Ruger ever made. It has been replaced by the clunkerish looking Security 9. Another winner in fugly category is the Ruger American Pistol. Just in time to meet the challange of Mossberg.
 
Jeb Stuart

Sorry to hear that Ruger has discontinued the SR9c. I think it's a great compact 9mm. but I can see that it was getting a bit crowded in their line-up with the Security 9 and the Ruger American Pistol also in the mix.
 
Another vote for the SR9c...for a budget 9mm, it has a lot going for it. Saying that...I just traded mine away, not because I didn't like the pistol, just found a great deal on a SR1911 that someone was trading looking for a concealable 9mm, so we made a deal. Plus, I guess I just like hammers...I'm now in the market for a CZ75
 
Since the b6p was mentioned at times in the thread I dug mine out of the safe and greased her up and took it to the range along with a favorite cz99 and a FEG Hi-Power clone.. I took a 500 rounds of Reloaded 9mm 124gc tc under titegroup. Pretty much my pet load for all my 9mm's. Sent 300 rds of through the b6p and the rest through the cz99 and FEG.

I missed running the b6p, this thing actually makes me look like I know what I am doing running plates. Just like a damn Laser. I plan on keeping it handy for range use in the foreseeable future, The CZ99 is always a favorite. Sure seems to run great. My FEG is temperamental with last round hold open but its due to mags. One of these days I'll fix it. Its a private market model and super purty. I can deal with the LRHO issue for now. And of course its extremely accurate.

I'll add these three to the list if I haven't already. The cz99 and FEG can be had on the surplus market for at or under $300 in well used shape but are both proven military arms. Occasionally you can find a new civilian cz999 or Ez9 variant of the Military cz99 but they are climbing up in price and are closer to $400+ in NIB shape. The Fime group quit importing them to focus on the Arez zero. :(
 
I did a lot of searching and research in this category, and it came down to the Ruger Security 9 and the Walther Creed - the two best in the category IMO. I ended up getting the Ruger.
 
bannockburn said:
Jeb Stuart

Sorry to hear that Ruger has discontinued the SR9c. I think it's a great compact 9mm. but I can see that it was getting a bit crowded in their line-up with the Security 9 and the Ruger American Pistol also in the mix.
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Personally I do not think they are in the same Catagory. The American is a heavy combat pistol, and the Security9 more of a Nightstand gun vs the SR, which is a heavy use range gun, and CCW. I have a feeling they are going to come out with a NEW version of the SR9 and LC9S as well.

I have alway's speculated that the Security9 was named for the fact that it is a Nightstand gun, 9 hours while you are sleeping and 9mm round. JMO
 
Jeb Stuart said:
Personally I do not think they are in the same Catagory. The American is a heavy combat pistol, and the Security9 more of a Nightstand gun vs the SR, which is a heavy use range gun, and CCW. I have a feeling they are going to come out with a NEW version of the SR9 and LC9S as well.

I have alway's speculated that the Security9 was named for the fact that it is a Nightstand gun, 9 hours while you are sleeping and 9mm round. JMO
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It will definitely be interesting to see what direction Ruger goes. I agree with you that the American and Security 9 are in completely different categories. The American never really seemed to take off. A replacement (or gen 2) of the SR series seems like a good idea. Ruger needs something in between an entry level budget gun and a clunky tank.

I have read/heard that Ruger has copyrighted or patented Ruger Security 40 and 45...
 
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