Opinions on delton ar15

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Recently purchased a delton ar15. Found it for 499.99 and it had a keymod quad rail. Read some reviews most were pretty good put about 200 rounds through so far no misfeeds or issues. Cannot comment on accuracy since it is not broken in yet. But was just curious if anyone had experience or opinions on these ar15s. I put a magpul front grip and magpul buttstock along with a NC star red dot sight which for 60 dollars has been awesome so far :) 20181215_184348.jpg
 
Personally, for a complete rifle in that price range I would have bought one of the following: Ruger, S&W, or PSA, but that is not saying your DelTon isn't of equal quality. I just don't have much experience with DelTon personally, but they've been around for a long time.

Going off the specs on their website of the MLOK version of your gun, I assume they are the same (Model: ECHO 316H), it looks like a good build from them.

Things I like to see they went with:

1. Carpenter 158 HPT/MPI'd bolt that is staked
2. Chrome lined carrier interior
3. M4 Ramps
4. Forged 7075 Lower and Upper
5. H Buffer

I don't particularly care for the 1:9 twist, chromed barrel, but it'll serve most fine, my preference would be a melonited 1:8 twist.

I would say you did well for $500.

The biggest question is the gas port sizing, which is a hidden item on all AR's as to how it was done at the factory. Where is your brass ejecting? Optimal ejection should be in the 3:00-4:30 and should reliably lock back on an empty mag with ammunition on the lower scale of power, I like to use Wolf steel for this. This is to insure it will have adequate gas to cycle whatever it gets fed.

Another item to watch is your extractor, but that is an easy and cheap upgrade if one needs with a better spring and o-ring.
 
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Personally, for a complete rifle in that price range I would have bought one of the following: Ruger, S&W, or PSA, but that is not saying your DelTon isn't of equal quality. I just don't have much experience with DelTon personally, but they've been around for a long time.

Going off the specs on their website of the MLOK version of your gun, I assume they are the same (Model: ECHO 316H), it looks like a good build from them.

Things I like to see they went with:

1. Carpenter 158 HPT/MPI'd bolt that is staked
2. Chrome lined carrier interior
3. M4 Ramps
4. Forged 7075 Lower and Upper
5. H Buffer

I don't particularly care for the 1:9 twist, chromed barrel, but it'll serve most fine, my preference would be a melonited 1:8 twist.

I would say you did well for $500.

The biggest question is the gas port sizing, which is a hidden item on all AR's as to how it was done at the factory. Where is your brass ejecting? Optimal ejection should be in the 3:00-4:30 and should reliably lock back on an empty mag with ammunition on the lower scale of power, I like to use Wolf steel for this. This is to insure it will have adequate gas to cycle whatever it gets fed.

Another item to watch is your extractor, but that is an easy and cheap upgrade if one needs with a better spring and o-ring.
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What would be the big difference or drawback to a 1:8 or 1:9 twist?
 
Jancik said:
What would be the big difference or drawback to a 1:8 or 1:9 twist?
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Not much for the average user. The 1:9 will just have a limitation on stabilizing longer length (heavier) bullets, so accuracy may suffer on those is all. It's not something to lose sleep over by any means, I was just giving you my preferences, there is nothing wrong with 1:9 if shooting military loadings.

I think most 1:9 twists will stabilize a 77 grain Sierra bullet, but will fail to stabilize the longer 70 grain Barnes (all copper) bullet. It's the length that will get you on stabilization.
 
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Not much for the average user. The 1:9 will just have a limitation on stabilizing longer length (heavier) bullets, so accuracy may suffer on those is all. It's not something to lose sleep over by any means, I was just giving you my preferences, there is nothing wrong with 1:9 if shooting military loadings.

I think most 1:9 twists will stabilize a 77 grain Sierra bullet, but will fail to stabilize the longer 70 grain Barnes (all copper) bullet. It's the length that will get you on stabilization.
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Interesting thank you for the info I will try to stick with 55 or 62 grain it sounds like. Someone told me grain refers to powder amount and another told me it is bullet weight so which is it?! Lol
 
Grain is a weight measurement in in the world of bullets. For powder it can be a weight or volume. This doesn't usually matter to many shooters unless you reload centerfire cartridges or shoot black powder.
 
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Jancik said:
Recently purchased a delton ar15. Found it for 499.99 and it had a keymod quad rail. Read some reviews most were pretty good put about 200 rounds through so far no misfeeds or issues. Cannot comment on accuracy since it is not broken in yet. But was just curious if anyone had experience or opinions on these ar15s. I put a magpul front grip and magpul buttstock along with a NC star red dot sight which for 60 dollars has been awesome so far :)View attachment 821164
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I love mine-
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I only shoot 55gr because, well, they're cheap, and accuracy is easily minute-of-enemy at 200yd. No malfunctions or breakages at my (admittedly modest) round count around 2k downrange.
 
I have a Del ton I built from a kit. It is the best AR I have, better in every way than the PSA kit I also built. It did not need upgrades. No out of spec parts, and no mismatched finish or sloppy markings like the PSA. The one I have is actually nicely finished, has no issues and is accurate. I did have a Del Ton Dissipator that I did not like because of the short dwell time.
Grains when talking about bullets means bullet weight, not powder weight. 1 in 9 twist works great, I prefer higher velocity 55 to 67 grain bullets. I also have a 1 in 7 and I don't see any advantage. If I want to shoot heavier I go to a bigger caliber but to each his own.
 
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mshootnit said:
I usually buy a complete upper from them , snap it on a quality lower that I build with the stock, and trigger I happen to want at the time. Here is my son getting hits at 200 yds. with a Del-ton carbine
https://photos.app.goo.gl/AYsEtHx5PmtL4wQY9
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I did the same, I put a Del-Ton mid length on an Anderson lower for one of my ARs. The only non stock stuff on it is a BCM mod 0 grip and a midsized BCM charging handle.

Shoots just fine for me with any 55 to 62 gr fmj fodder.

Stay safe!
 
Delton 316 Echo works fine for me. ONly trouble I had with it is minimal. Gas rings broke, free fix from Delton and it runs just fine. Sixteen months ago for $399.95.
 
Update on my delton, the trigger would not reset after rapid firing. I shipped it back to delton and they did fix the trigger. However after a rapid fire got I it a little hot and it jammed every other round after that.
Did not want to ship it back and wait another two weeks. So I bought a smith and Wesson m and p 2 and put a vortex strikeforce sight on it. Not a single issue even once. Not impressed with delton even though customer service was fine. Glad to have a smith with no issues. Cannot recommend delton at this time.
 
Jancik said:
Update on my delton, the trigger would not reset after rapid firing. I shipped it back to delton and they did fix the trigger. However after a rapid fire got I it a little hot and it jammed every other round after that.
Did not want to ship it back and wait another two weeks. So I bought a smith and Wesson m and p 2 and put a vortex strikeforce sight on it. Not a single issue even once. Not impressed with delton even though customer service was fine. Glad to have a smith with no issues. Cannot recommend delton at this time.
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What kind of lubrication were you using when you Del-Ton failed? What kind of ammo were you shooting?


In my experience there are more ARs that work than those that don't.

Quality of parts, attention to detail during assembly, and attention to detail during operation can all make or break a rifle.


I wouldn't recommend an NC-Star optic to anyone though. No offense to anyone's choices but IMHO those optics are destined to fail. For about $40 more you can get a red dot from Holosun, Vortex or Sig that will work well and has excellent warranty support as well.
 
IndianaBoy said:
What kind of lubrication were you using when you Del-Ton failed? What kind of ammo were you shooting?


In my experience there are more ARs that work than those that don't.

Quality of parts, attention to detail during assembly, and attention to detail during operation can all make or break a rifle.


I wouldn't recommend an NC-Star optic to anyone though. No offense to anyone's choices but IMHO those optics are destined to fail. For about $40 more you can get a red dot from Holosun, Vortex or Sig that will work well and has excellent warranty support as well.
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I was using Lucas gun oil, and brass Winchester ammo. I did go vortex this time as well I really really like this optic. I bought the strikefire 2. I am using the same oil and ammo on my m&p and it works great.
I'm not saying delton is a bad company two failures in a row and I lost faith in the gun. Once that happens I dont trust them anymore.
 
Sounds like it was the rifle. That is good lube and that is good ammo.

Good choice on the optic. I am a vortex fan.
 
I have a midlength, and shot the best group of my life with it, 1.060 with iron sights (has an A2 upper), and no malfunctions in the 3000 rounds its seen. A friend recently had a reloading accident, and managed to split the bolt, and blow the extractor, but the receiver and barrel held fine. Of the few DT rifles I've shot, none of them stretched brass badly, unlike some of the "better brands". I have access to 3, not mine, but I know them well, and they all work fine, parts hold up.
 
mjsdwash said:
I have a midlength, and shot the best group of my life with it, 1.060 with iron sights (has an A2 upper), and no malfunctions in the 3000 rounds its seen. A friend recently had a reloading accident, and managed to split the bolt, and blow the extractor, but the receiver and barrel held fine. Of the few DT rifles I've shot, none of them stretched brass badly, unlike some of the "better brands". I have access to 3, not mine, but I know them well, and they all work fine, parts hold up.
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Nice I am glad to hear they are holding up well. I have had a ruger ar15 before and and a smith and believe it or not a bushmaster. All worked well except for my delton. I always shoot brass never steel too so idk but I figure it's good to post my experience.
 
DelTon is GTG or get your own parts kit and shoot the DT upper Never a problem with any of mine. This what you get when someone is better with Vbulletin than they are with a pin punch.
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I have a delton AR10 (308). The trigger was terrible, but I replaced it with a Larue MBT. Much better now.
 
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