Who's a fan of single shot pistols in rifle calibers?

I am still learning, (Sorry Moderators about taking up so much space.)
Figured to post a couple of pix, of not the best quality....
This is one of my T/C's .357 Herrett, 14 inch barrel, 2.5 power T/C arms scope.
I found the "Cheater Stock with my Dad's stuff. He had carved and sanded it but did not finish it before his death some 25+ years ago. It is maple.
Several years ago, IDK, maybe 5 or6 ,I decided to finish it. Stained, handmade the brass accents out of a heavy sheet,polished the brass, then put a poly finish over all that before adding the the Black Sheep shoulder pad that I pre-fitted.
Can not use that particular scope with the Cheater Stock as the eye relief is not correct.
Not the best job, but not a "Bubba" job either.
Kinda proud of it.
Wished I had put some of my reloads with the picture. Oh well............

1976B.L.Johns. said:

View attachment 812966 I am still learning, (Sorry Moderators about taking up so much space.)
Figured to post a couple of pix, of not the best quality....
This is one of my T/C's .357 Herrett, 14 inch barrel, 2.5 power T/C arms scope.
I found the "Cheater Stock with my Dad's stuff. He had carved and sanded it but did not finish it before his death some 25+ years ago. It is maple.
Several years ago, IDK, maybe 5 or6 ,I decided to finish it. Stained, handmade the brass accents out of a heavy sheet,polished the brass, then put a poly finish over all that before adding the the Black Sheep shoulder pad that I pre-fitted.
Can not use that particular scope with the Cheater Stock as the eye relief is not correct.
Not the best job, but not a "Bubba" job either.
Kinda proud of it.
Wished I had put some of my reloads with the picture. Oh well............

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Just so you know it is a felony to put that stock on the gun with that 14" barrel because you are creating an unregistered short barreled rifle. Penalty is up to 10 years in prison. If you want to use the stock you need to get a SBR tax stamp for it or get a 16"+ barrel.

horsemen61 said:

Can I get one in 6.5 Grendel a pistol that is?

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Brownells sells Howa barreled actions in Grendel, which will transfer as “Other” on the 4473. Bob the barrel, buy a chassis or commission a stock, live happy with a custom bolt action specialty pistol in 6.5 Grendel. I’m working on the same in a CZ.

Varminterror said:

Brownells sells Howa barreled actions in Grendel, which will transfer as “Other” on the 4473. Bob the barrel, buy a chassis or commission a stock, live happy with a custom bolt action specialty pistol in 6.5 Grendel. I’m working on the same in a CZ.

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That’s a great idea, never thought of that. A Boyd’s thumbhole stock could be a workable start for a pistol grip. Shorten the forend and cut it off behind the grip. I’d prefer a more vertical grip but it could work.

Arkansas Paul said:

Nice Contender friend.
But like somguy2800 said, don't put that stock on it if you don't have a stamp.

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He doesn’t even have to put it on. If he doesn’t own a 16” barrel, (and always have it with the stock,) then he is in constructive possession of an NFA item.

Since we’re all armchair quarterbacks on an online forum, with no knowledge of what other barrels he might own, speculation isn’t pertinent or responsible.

someguy2800 said:

Just so you know it is a felony to put that stock on the gun with that 14" barrel...

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Arkansas Paul said:

...don't put that stock on it if you don't have a stamp.

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Varminterror said:

He doesn’t even have to put it on. If he doesn’t own a 16” barrel, (and always have it with the stock,) then he is in constructive possession of an NFA item...

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Ok, give the guy a break already. I think he got the message. I don’t see the stock attached along with the short barrel.

So he has a stock that has some sentimental value. I think it looks great, and I’m glad that he shared it. I’m sure it looks great installed with a rifle-length barrel, too.

Personally, I find a 10”, 14”, or even a 16” barrel feels too short on a Contender with a buttstock. That is unless you lengthen the package with a suppressor. Makes a perfect setup at that point. And yes, with all of the appropriate hoops having been jumped through prior to assembly.

GarrettJ said:

I don’t see the stock attached along with the short barrel.

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It’s this kind of ignorance which gets people sideways of the law.

It isn’t just illegal to have the stock ATTACHED without a stamp, it’s illegal to possess parts which COULD ONLY BE ASSEMBLED into an NFA item without a stamp. It’s called constructive possession. If you own a Contender or Encore pistol with a shoulder stock, you must ALSO own a 16”+ barrel, and the rifle length barrel must always be present when the buttstock is with the firearm. Owning parts which can ONLY be assembled in an NFA configuration is equivalent to owning a NFA configuration - which is a federal felony without an NFA stamp.

Varminterror said:

It’s this kind of ignorance which gets people sideways of the law.

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Not ignorance. We know exactly what you’re talking about.

I think that horse is dead already.

had a CVA Scout in .357. beautiful gun accurate from a tripod, and I put a pistol scope on it but never could shoot it well unless I used the tripod. I traded it to Buds for a Traditions G2 outfitter rifle single shot break barrel .357. I bought the package with the variable power scope and case. Shoots very accurate in .38sp or .357, feels like I'm shooting a .22lr. Will make a great deer slayer.

I've got a couple different pistols that fill the qualifications. They are fun to shoot and neat looking to boot!

Savage Stryker in stainless chambered in 22-250. It's a bolt action repeater though, not single shot. I have a 22 mag version too.

TC contender with 30-30, 10" & 14" 30 herrett, 357 herrett, 222 rem, 22 hornet, 22 mag, 223, and 44mag with a hotshot barrel ext. About half of them are octagon barrels and all are factory TC barrels. Never shot the herrett barrels, as I dont have ammo for them.

I've got a 357MAX Encore I'm rigging up as a deer carbine:


It's very uh, utilitarian let's say. But all the various horse trading and some Cabela's giftcards I'm only about $300 into this whole package.

I've got new starline brass, a box of 180gr XTP's and pounds of 4227, 2400 and even a little H110 stashed away. Just got to get busy.

Edit: looks like I got it backwards, "pistol" caliber in a single shot rifle.

I'm not exactly a "fan" but I have a Contender in several calibers including 22 Hornet and 357 Herrett.

I am real interested in either a 44mag or 500mag pistol barrel for my Encore frame.

Im learning to 500mag since I've already got a 44mag carbine and revolver. I've got brass, bullets and dies for the 500mag but nothing to launch them with.

I think a 10-14" bull barrel with a low power EER scope would be nice. Anyone with any experience know if there'd be significant difference in recoil? I thought shooting my old 3" 500mag wasn't too bad at all for a frame of reference to my recoil tolerance.

gotboostvr said:

I've got a 357MAX Encore I'm rigging up as a deer carbine:

It's very uh, utilitarian let's say. But all the various horse trading and some Cabela's giftcards I'm only about $300 into this whole package.

I've got new starline brass, a box of 180gr XTP's and pounds of 4227, 2400 and even a little H110 stashed away. Just got to get busy.

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Its going to love H110. 21 grains or so with a small rifle primer.

someguy2800 said:

Its going to love H110. 21 grains or so with a small rifle primer.

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I keep hearing something along those lines.

I don't use H110 in any other caliber. As I don't have a chrono I load for top accuracy instead of pushing my luck with playing "how hot can I go" and got better accuracy with 4227 (in jacketed 44 mag) and 2400 (lead & jacketed 357mag and lead 44mag).

Sounds like a good excuse to try and use it up though!

gotboostvr said:

I am real interested in either a 44mag or 500mag pistol barrel for my Encore frame.

Im learning to 500mag since I've already got a 44mag carbine and revolver. I've got brass, bullets and dies for the 500mag but nothing to launch them with.

I think a 10-14" bull barrel with a low power EER scope would be nice. Anyone with any experience know if there'd be significant difference in recoil? I thought shooting my old 3" 500mag wasn't too bad at all for a frame of reference to my recoil tolerance.

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500 should do great out of a 10" bbl. It will be less painful than that stubby 3", that's for sure.

BigBlue 94 said:

500 should do great out of a 10" bbl. It will be less painful than that stubby 3", that's for sure.

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I was lobbing 560gr WFNGC's around 1100-1200fps estimated and thought it wasn't bad at all. Much easier than my 4" 29-2 with magna grips, grip adapter and full power loads.

gotboostvr said:

I keep hearing something along those lines.

I don't use H110 in any other caliber. As I don't have a chrono I load for top accuracy instead of pushing my luck with playing "how hot can I go" and got better accuracy with 4227 (in jacketed 44 mag) and 2400 (lead & jacketed 357mag and lead 44mag).

Sounds like a good excuse to try and use it up though!

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I've tried alot of different powders in 357 max and H110 always delivered top accuracy. If you want to back down charge weight and velocity 2400 works well but you do need to be more careful with it. It spikes up in pressure much more so than H110 does.

someguy2800 said:

I've tried alot of different powders in 357 max and H110 always delivered top accuracy. If you want to back down charge weight and velocity 2400 works well but you do need to be more careful with it. It spikes up in pressure much more so than H110 does.

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Have you tried lil'gun or 300-mp?

gotboostvr said:

Have you tried lil'gun or 300-mp?

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I did try lil gun. The barrel got really hot and it didn’t shoot as well as H110. It did have less pressure. I had a bad experience with lil gun in 300 blackout when I tested it in cold temps. A load that was under the book max and showed no pressure signs at 50 degrees would blow the primers out and expand the case head at -20 F. After that I threw the rest of my lil gun in the garbage.

Picked up a 221 Remington Fireball 10" octagon barrel today at the gun show. It has been mounted , but never fired... bore is as shiney as I've seen.

Also got a small octagon handguard. I have maybe 5 octagon barrels, and all fit with my normal handguards. My 44mag barrel without hotshot extension is just barely too short. This one will be perfect.

That thin 44 mag barrel is a handful had one sold it fast

LUCKYDAWG13 said:

That thin 44 mag barrel is a handful had one sold it fast

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Oh no, the one pictured is the 221 fireball I picked up today, along with the handguard. My 44mag is a bit thicker and ported.

I have a TC Contender in 30-30 WIn. Amazingly accurate and has accounted for quite a number of whitetail. Fun gun.

I especially like to take it to the range on a sight in day when all the old worn out and beat up lever guns come out. Many of them shoot minute of 5-gal bucket. They put them up and go home when they see groups the TC shoots.