Glocks Rub Me The Wrong Way

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Toprudder said:
I retract my earlier statement about this not being a Glock bashing thread. :)
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We went from a shooter having trouble with his finger rubbing the trigger guard to bashing Glocks in less then two pages. For this to happen all you need to the word Glock to be in the title of your topic.
I think it's pretty Low Road that the Glock haters feel that they need to do this.
 
GunnyUSMC said:
We went from a shooter having trouble with his finger rubbing the trigger guard to bashing Glocks in less then two pages. For this to happen all you need to the word Glock to be in the title of your topic.
I think it's pretty Low Road that the Glock haters feel that they need to do this.
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Gunny, you express that sentiment fairly often. Let me just ask you, why is it always okay to say good things about a product but not bad? You don't mention that just putting Glock in the title will bring out the fanboys in under a page. If you had two pages of glowing reviews of the Glock, no one would say that was out of line. But criticism of it is wrong? Why is that? You frequently tell folks who don't like Glocks to keep the negative thoughts to themselves and just don't buy them. I never hear you or anyone else say if you like Glocks, just keep it to yourself and buy as many as you want. Why is it okay to praise them but not okay to pan them? Aren't both opinions just as valid?
 
Sometimes we add a weight on the light rail on Glocks in USPSA, usually we don't. Usually I run just a SS guide rod. I avoid heavy magwells on Glocks. If I want to run super heavy, I'll run a CZ or 2011.

Adding weight to a Glock can improve it's recoil, but hurts it's weight advantage. But it's nice having the choice.

With CZ, you don't have that choice, you're stuck with it being a heavy brick. With 2011's you can select between a polymer or SS grip assembly.

To keep Limited interesting, you're not allowed to change your pistol choice or weight choice, during the event. You can't run a light weight Glock on the stages with a ton of movement, and then switch to a CZ for a hoser stage.

I love it. Should I gamble and use my CZ, or play it safe with my Glock?

Production is boring.
 
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rpenmanparker said:
Gunny, you express that sentiment fairly often. Let me just ask you, why is it always okay to say good things about a product but not bad? You don't mention that just putting Glock in the title will bring out the fanboys in under a page. If you had two pages of glowing reviews of the Glock, no one would say that was out of line. But criticism of it is wrong? Why is that? You frequently tell folks who don't like Glocks to keep the negative thoughts to themselves and just don't buy them. I never hear you or anyone else say if you like Glocks, just keep it to yourself and buy as many as you want. Why is it okay to praise them but not okay to pan them? Aren't both opinions just as valid?
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I have no problem with someone stating something negative about Glocks. It's just that any topic on a Glock becomes a bashing by the haters. This topic was not about how good or bad Glocks are, or about if you like Glocks are not. It's about the trouble the OP is having with his finger rubbing on the trigger guard. So all the Glock bashing is really uncalled for.
Just have a look at the topic on the Sig 365 vs the Glock 43. The topic is which do you prefer and why. There are a lot of replies both positive and negative on both guns and then there is the bashing by the haters.
Now if someone was to say that they had the same problem with their finger rubbing on the Glock trigger guard, but didn't have the problem with other guns, and this was the reason he didn't like Glocks. That is not negative, that is someone adding to a topic.
But go read all the topics on Glocks. You will find the same few people that have to let us know that they don't like Glocks. And they don't just post once. They continue until the topic is so far of topic that it has noting to with the original topic.
I like Glocks. I have one on my side right now. It's a Gen 4 G17 that my dept issued to me. I wish they issued the S&W M&P because it fits my hand better and I shoot it a little better then the Glock. But I have two G19s because I like them better then the M&P compact.
 
A classic example was on a previous page where it was brought up that Gaston Glock manufactured curtain rods before developing guns, like that is supposed to help the person who shoots competitively in GSSF figure out his finger rub problems. One must ask themselves (myself included as I do it from time to time and try to self-regulate myself in editing or deleting my posts) is what I'm posting staying on topic and moving forward the conversation as it relates to the OP's question? Over the top brand loyalty and hatred is a real distraction in threads, it gets old.
 
GunnyUSMC said:
I have no problem with someone stating something negative about Glocks. It's just that any topic on a Glock becomes a bashing by the haters. This topic was not about how good or bad Glocks are, or about if you like Glocks are not. It's about the trouble the OP is having with his finger rubbing on the trigger guard. So all the Glock bashing is really uncalled for.
Just have a look at the topic on the Sig 365 vs the Glock 43. The topic is which do you prefer and why. There are a lot of replies both positive and negative on both guns and then there is the bashing by the haters.
Now if someone was to say that they had the same problem with their finger rubbing on the Glock trigger guard, but didn't have the problem with other guns, and this was the reason he didn't like Glocks. That is not negative, that is someone adding to a topic.
But go read all the topics on Glocks. You will find the same few people that have to let us know that they don't like Glocks. And they don't just post once. They continue until the topic is so far of topic that it has noting to with the original topic.
I like Glocks. I have one on my side right now. It's a Gen 4 G17 that my dept issued to me. I wish they issued the S&W M&P because it fits my hand better and I shoot it a little better then the Glock. But I have two G19s because I like them better then the M&P compact.
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Well said. You taught me something.
 
But back on topic it will be beneficial to everyone when @alfsuave gets back to us in trying the different things suggested to fix his problem. Seems like he has some good suggestions:

golf glove on trigger hand
try the different back straps to adjust hand fit and trigger placement
figure out what GSSF will allow in modifying the frame to help alleviate the problem
higher hand placement on the gun to allow for more room
 
That's exactly where I discovered it! Trigger feel sensitivity is transmitted thru it very well for me.

I've left the range and forgot the tape was still on my finger. Super adhesive too.
 
GunnyUSMC said:
So all the Glock bashing is really uncalled for.
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For some reason Glocks are polarizing. I have no idea why. It’s almost as if the things had “make America great again” printed on the slide. Don’t let it get you down. It’s just people expressing their opinions. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Into every thread a little drift must fall.
 
rskent said:
For some reason Glocks are polarizing. I have no idea why. It’s almost as if the things had “make America great again” printed on the slide. Don’t let it get you down. It’s just people expressing their opinions. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Into every thread a little drift must fall.
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It would be great if there opinion had something to do with the topic. It's like some of these people hunt for topics with Glocks in them just to do some Trolling. There are guns I don't like and some I don't care for, but I don't go to topics on them just to express my opinion. If I have something to add to the topic, I'll post.
 
I'd be ok with it, if it was constructive, and from someone that has actually mastered the pistol.

Instead it's just the same old amateur nonsense. And the weak sauce arguments to support the amateurs point of view. Nothing useful.
 
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Zerodefect said:
I'd be ok with it, if it was constructive, and from someone that actually has mastered the pistol.

Instead it's just the same old amateur nonsense. And the weak sauce arguments to support the amateurs point of view. Nothing useful.
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I thought we were supposed to be staying on topic. ;)
 
alfsauve said:
Specifacally forbidden is non-stock parts. Don't think they'd mind some contouring of the trigger or guard. Then again I'm not very high on the score list so no ones going to check my gun unless it blatantly obvious... Like a flat trigger.
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I had a Walther PPSM2 that did what your Glock is doing if I understand it properly.My finger was getting pinched between the tip of the trigger and the bottom of the trigger guard. I studied it for a while one night and saw that there was no space between the tip and the trigger guard, so I took a Dremel tool and buffed a little space under the trigger and then polished it with 2000 grit sand paper. Never bothered me again. Empty the gun and pull the trigger back and look to see if this is the solution.
 
Went out yesterday, in advance of the Snow Spamagedan in ATL, and put 200 rounds down range. Used a liquid bandage product and painted on 2 layers of it then a layer of SuperGlue. Formed a hard barrier on the bottom of my finger and it worked like a champ. By the end of the 200 rounds it had worn pretty much off, but my finger felt fine.

Not bashing Glocks. My finger geometry doesn't mate well with it. With a good solid high hold I cannot get my finger perpendicular to the trigger.
For those so thoughtful to ask why I shoot Glocks if I don't like the way they feel: GSSF matches/leagues are short courses of fire with a chance of winning a gun even if you're not a master or in first place. And since they are the same courses of fire every match you can measure your improvement match to match. (or in my case my dis-improvement lately)

So here's what the trigger and trigger guard look like with a M&P, P320 and a G17. Notice the G17 has a smaller trigger guard and a shorter trigger with less curve.

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Notice how my finger fits, which shows why the bottom get rubbed raw during recoil. No, to repeat, my finger geometry does not permit
the trigger finger to come in any straighter. Maybe something to do with some double jointedness. Or maybe I could tape my trigger
finger to my third.

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The only thing stopping me from removing some material below the trigger is I'm unsure if it will work. I'll look for suitable gloves.
And while painting my finger is a little of a pain, it worked very effectively.
 
My buddy at work picked up a HK P30 for a great price from a guy that was having the same problem. The guy had removed some material from the trigger guard and was having trouble selling it because, he didn’t do a pretty job of it.
My buddy loves the gun. Not all gun fit every hand, but there is a hand that will fit every gun.
 
alfsauve said:
The only thing stopping me from removing some material below the trigger is I'm unsure if it will work.
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Maybe you can still polish the contact area in an unobtrusive way. Although technically, polishing removes the material too, but it's easier to make look good than, say, dremeling the heck out of the gun.

P.S. I have a P80 "Glock" and I used my pocket knife to remove the material with a good success. The result looks so-so, but fits me better. The kit was cheap, so if I ever want to sell the gun, I can just discard the modified frame.
 
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