Best hunting gun for deer with medium recoil

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I am NOT a BP hunter, but the part about actually HUNTING the animal by sneaking up close is spot on, no matter what your weapon of choice is.

Hence archery, muzzleloaders, and leverguns.

I've made comments about stretching out the .30-30, but when considering hunting in places you can't see that far, zero your rifle to the shorter distance and just hunt. Fieldcraft and deliberation will count for more.
 
Depends on what gun you're toting and how far you want to shoot.

I find my Remington 760 in .35 rem to be decent, with a buttplate (not recoil pad).
But it's good for what........maybe 150 yards or so. 200gr factory ammo.

Had a Remington 742 in .30-06..........again, buttplate. It was a soft shooter, but I never ran over 150 gr loads in it.

Either of those rifles, given a recoil pad.......would have been even more comfy.
Little 600 I had in .243...........stocks on them kinda suck. Wasn't bad, but for a .243 it had a bit.
 
IMO that BLR in .308 ought to be pretty versatile. They used to make reciever sights for it too. If it'll feed a 150gr RN... and it should... it'll be as good in the brush as a .30-30, yet load a 150gr spitzer and you're back to extended ranges with the flatter trajectory. The downside... have you ever tried to hunt the thick stuff with a pretty rifle?
 
I've shot deer from 30 yards to 200 with a 150 Nosler BT out of my .308. I'll take it 10 to one over any thuddy, thuddy, although I admit .30-30 makes a good pistol cartridge. What I like about my .308 is the versatility. I can walk a canyon ridge spot and stalking in the mountains to sitting in my box blind with range limited to 100 yards with my feeder hanging 50 yards away, no matter, it'll do it all well.
 
Find a rifle you love and use that. A few years ago I killed a deer with a Colt Lightening pump made in 1896 chambered in 38 WCF. I used a cast 175 grain bullet, probably pushing something like 1400 fps. For a twenty-five yard broadside chest shot, it was plenty.

Although in a year's time, I eat more venison than any other meat, a shameful admission for a beef farmer, instead of looking for the absolute best combination, I just pick rifles I like and let it go at that.

Sure as I pick a number set up for long range shooting, I'll kick something up under my feet that would have been better handled by an older lever, and the reverse has happened to me enough. I just laugh at myself and figure, if I live, they'll be another deer on another day.
 
As far as .30-30 vs .308, like several other arguements, I've found no reason to dislike either.

.308 - 7.62x51 - 150gr SP @ 2600-2700fps
.30-30 - 7.62x51R - 150gr RN @ 2400fps

One gets run in leverguns more often and uses a tad less powder. Either's generally more economical than a .300WinMag and several others.
 
I tend to be a bit recoil sensitive, so the most I can put up with is 30-06. I only use full powered rounds out of that rifle for elk. For literally anything else, I either use something different (35 rem is not bad for recoil), or I use a handloaded 30-06 load that does not beat the snot out of me. So for OP: do you handload? If so, pick a .308 or .30-06 rifle that turns your crank and spend some quality time putting together a modest recoil load for that purpose. It can also be used to get more practice in without developing a flinch or getting walloped. I took a doe this fall with my .30-06 and it was a 200 grain cast bullet going 1900 FPS out of the muzzle. Recoil like a .30-30, got to use the rifle I had been practicing with, and she did not make it more than 20 yards from where the bullet hit her. An alternative if you don't load is the reduced recoil loads like Hornady Custom Lite.

The reason I suggest this strategy is that you can always step up to a full power load in a 30-06 to hunt something igger or farther away. Can't do that with a 243.
 
My bud and I about same build.
He thinks his Rem 760 in .30-06 kicks.
I had one, and thought it no big deal.

I think all magnum turkey loads pretty much suck LOL
 
12 gauge slugs out of a light double barrel, now THAT is recoil. I have some 3" slugs I haven't gotten the desire to try in that shotgun. :rofl: 3.5" 12 gauge in a light shotgun like my Mossberg 535 ain't real nice, either, but those slugs take the cake.

Try some Dixie Tri-Balls in a lightweight shotgun some time. Be prepared to lose some fillings in your teeth and maybe detach your retinas! I have a permanent 'flinch' now after shooting a couple of those. And at one time a .338 Win Mag was my Elk and Deer rifle so I am not particularly recoil sensitive.
 
Nothing wrong with the .243 cartridge for taking deer sized animals. But my shots rarely exceed about 75 yards so I hunt with my fast handling 30-30 lever action carbine. 30-30 is a keeper!

TR
 
Although folks often look at these two as "kids" calibers, there are plenty of adults who have harvested deer with them.
I've used 243 myself to take 3 deer. It's the cal that got me back into hunting after surgery.

I'd say weird is an apt description :rofl:
Better post some pictures because that's something I'd like to see.
Be sure to make several I'm sure a bunch of us would buy them from you.

You don't feel recoil when your looking through the scope and shoot a deer any way.....

MAN UP!
Before I man up let me tear your rotated cuff and watch you man up
 
I can take a pretty good thump to the shoulder.
Am kinda scrawny and of average height...........stuff fits me well and stays put.
What I don't like....is getting smacked in the cheek.

Dunno why, got a TC Hawken Silver Elite............that just ate me up.
Buds Hawken didn't.
The gorgeous HSE was just brutal.
 
To me the biggest issue with recoil is during practice, not the comparatively rare shot on a deer. In practice, the reason recoil is undesirable is not because I'm a wimp, but because I want to be able to spot myself. I definitely expect more precision at longer range than what is ordinarily practical with iron sites. I try to shoot my hunting rifle at 1 MOA out to 300 yards. Even though I do use a scope, it's one with a wide field of view (1.5-5X). If it was a 7 pound rifle in .30-06, the only way I'd know where the POI was is if I could find it in the spotting scope a few minutes after the fact. I'm convinced deer will fall very reliably with rounds fired generating much less recoil and that what's much more important is skill to consistently hit vitals with accuracy. With that said, I've already mentioned the possibility to handload nearly any sufficiently large centerfire rifle cartridge with the appropriate powder and bullet to levels that are both suitable for anyone starting out (no need for a crappy .22LR), to levels that allow for minimum recoil while still effectively taking game, and on up.
 
To me the biggest issue with recoil is during practice, not the comparatively rare shot on a deer. In practice, the reason recoil is undesirable is not because I'm a wimp, but because I want to be able to spot myself. I definitely expect more precision at longer range than what is ordinarily practical with iron sites. I try to shoot my hunting rifle at 1 MOA out to 300 yards. Even though I do use a scope, it's one with a wide field of view (1.5-5X). If it was a 7 pound rifle in .30-06, the only way I'd know where the POI was is if I could find it in the spotting scope a few minutes after the fact. I'm convinced deer will fall very reliably with rounds fired generating much less recoil and that what's much more important is skill to consistently hit vitals with accuracy. With that said, I've already mentioned the possibility to handload nearly any sufficiently large centerfire rifle cartridge with the appropriate powder and bullet to levels that are both suitable for anyone starting out (no need for a crappy .22LR), to levels that allow for minimum recoil while still effectively taking game, and on up.

IMO, and I like iron sights and some low-power optics, it does help to be able to see what you're doing and learn to call the shot... see where your sight picture is when the shot breaks. Good sights and low recoil, along with hunting conditions in my area, is why I like my recommendations and others. If we go back over this thread, and I see plenty of good advise, we all offer "a way", but not always necessarily "the way". A lot of ground can be covered with a .30-30 among others, good sights, and a set of Lee dies for starters... and the scope of possibilities is pretty wide.
 
I have no love of lever rifles, or the .30-30.
Pretty much agree w Petzal on that one.
 
BTW: Sniping at deer from long range is not the mark of a hunter. It's much better to sneak up within 30 yards and put a round ball in the animals ear.:p
I guess I dont qualify as a hunter. But my freezer has venison, so I'm happy :D

Other than a .223, the lightest recoiling deer rifle I've ever shot was a Browning BAR MKII with the Boss system in .243 win.

.243 win. is the lightest round I'm comfortable with for deer. And a good one :thumbup:
 
As far as .30-30 vs .308, like several other arguements, I've found no reason to dislike either.

.308 - 7.62x51 - 150gr SP @ 2600-2700fps
.30-30 - 7.62x51R - 150gr RN @ 2400fps

One gets run in leverguns more often and uses a tad less powder. Either's generally more economical than a .300WinMag and several others.

I load the same 150 Nosler Ballistic Tip spitzer in my 12" .30-30 Contender that I load in my .308 20" barrel Remington M7 stainless. It gets 2050 fps out of the Contender and almost 2800 fps out of the rifle in .308. It has killed 5 deer quite dead with the pistol, longest shot 90 yards. I'd have to sit here and think about and count the game I've shot with that rifle and the thing is deadly. The difference is the .30-30 drops below 1000 ft lbs just before it reaches 200 yards. With a good rest, I'd make a 200 yard shot with it. It groups 3" at that range and is dead on at 200. The rifle, of course, can reach out there. Longest shot I've made was about 370 yards on a coyote, WHAP, DRT. :D I could not have made that shot with a .30-30, rifle or pistol. Oh, I might have with a .30-30 rifle and my Nosler load as the bullet has a good BC. Forget about it with a RN.

You know, my .308 is only about 7 lbs with optics. I don't find it objectionable at all in recoil, even shooting groups off the bench. My 7mm mag is MUCH rougher and it weighs more. A grown man should handle the .308 easily enough. When I can't, it'll be time to quit.
 
One of the handiest little rifles that I have owned was a compact Ruger 77 in 260 Rem. I put a 2X7 Leupold VXII in Leupold rings and loaded 120 Speer HotCors. It was a great combo and would cover 90% of my hunting situations. I would still have it if it had been walnut with blue steel.
 
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