The BFR Ruined!

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Lets see, the bfr has more chamberings, the best single action bisley grip frame for handling big bore recoil as well as the old plowhandle available. A better rear sight now and a match grade barrel! Im failing to see how they are ruined. The long frame 7.5” gun handles well off-hand. In the last year ive taken two axis bucks, 13 animals in africa and the largest whitetail ive ever shot all offhand with a 7.5” bfr 460sw from 40 yards to 150 yards. The gun will shoot sub 1.5” groups, rested with a scope, at 100 yards while balancing as well as my fa83 10” 454 offhand. It also handles the 460 recoil better than the fa gun does in 454. Im not sure how these have been ruined? Oh yeah, comes with a scope base too. Freedom arms guns, rugers, smiths, taurus have all also gone up in price over the last 5 years as well. Then again so have my vehicles, their parts, my utilities and the cost of my kids. Not sure how magnum research was gonna hold the price static when simple cost of metal has increased. Theyre also adding some new standard factory chamberings.


On a side note. I actually own 3 bfrs and 2 x frame smith and wessons. Only things arguably better on the smiths is the trigger. The bfr 7.5” 460 runs over 100 fps faster with the same loads as my xframe 460 8 3/8” xvr revolver. The cyclinder gap on my bfr is < .002. The smith is just over .006.

Is the original poster basing this on facts, feelings, or perhaps misinformation. Im not sure.
 
Lets see, the bfr has more chamberings, the best single action bisley grip frame for handling big bore recoil as well as the old plowhandle available. A better rear sight now and a match grade barrel! Im failing to see how they are ruined. The long frame 7.5” gun handles well off-hand. In the last year ive taken two axis bucks, 13 animals in africa and the largest whitetail ive ever shot all offhand with a 7.5” bfr 460sw from 40 yards to 150 yards. The gun will shoot sub 1.5” groups, rested with a scope, at 100 yards while balancing as well as my fa83 10” 454 offhand. It also handles the 460 recoil better than the fa gun does in 454. Im not sure how these have been ruined? Oh yeah, comes with a scope base too. Freedom arms guns, rugers, smiths, taurus have all also gone up in price over the last 5 years as well. Then again so have my vehicles, their parts, my utilities and the cost of my kids. Not sure how magnum research was gonna hold the price static when simple cost of metal has increased. Theyre also adding some new standard factory chamberings.


On a side note. I actually own 3 bfrs and 2 x frame smith and wessons. Only things arguably better on the smiths is the trigger. The bfr 7.5” 460 runs over 100 fps faster with the same loads as my xframe 460 8 3/8” xvr revolver. The cyclinder gap on my bfr is < .002. The smith is just over .006.

Is the original poster basing this on facts, feelings, or perhaps misinformation. Im not sure.
I vote misinformation. But the thing with forums like this is it's a constant learning experience. Lots a informative folks 'round here.:thumbup:
 
Well, right now I'm seeing street prices of $985 for a new BFR. A new Super Redhawk, $925. So I'm not understanding the comments about pricing at all. I love my Rugers but there's no doubt that the BFR is a stronger, better made sixgun.

That said, there are two things keeping me from owning one and they are strictly personal references. First and foremost, I decided that I already have too much stainless steel in my life. It just does less and less for me as the years drag on. It took me years to finally get an FA, partly because they're only available stainless. I got one two years ago and 'may' add another but it's low on the list of priorities. I sold one of my custom Rugers last year. I've even been toying with the idea of having my .44 SRH coated in black ionbond. The second reason is the grip. Their "Bisley" is not a Bisley at all but just a modification of the Super Blackhawk grip frame. It has too much room behind the triggerguard, which throws the balance forward and I have no desire to shoot a .500 with that grip. For heavy recoil, it is the Ruger Bisley for me and nothing else. The minor complaints are that I don't like the ejector housing or the screw-on front sight.


IMO, only the long cylinder models are worth getting if you have a rifle in those calibers. The .460, .500, and .410 ones are pointless, better revolvers available in those chamberings for less.
Better revolvers than the BFR, what would they be? I don't care for the X-frame chamberings at all but you won't find a better platform for them than the BFR.
 
Well, right now I'm seeing street prices of $985 for a new BFR. A new Super Redhawk, $925. So I'm not understanding the comments about pricing at all. I love my Rugers but there's no doubt that the BFR is a stronger, better made sixgun.

That said, there are two things keeping me from owning one and they are strictly personal references. First and foremost, I decided that I already have too much stainless steel in my life. It just does less and less for me as the years drag on. It took me years to finally get an FA, partly because they're only available stainless. I got one two years ago and 'may' add another but it's low on the list of priorities. I sold one of my custom Rugers last year. I've even been toying with the idea of having my .44 SRH coated in black ionbond. The second reason is the grip. Their "Bisley" is not a Bisley at all but just a modification of the Super Blackhawk grip frame. It has too much room behind the triggerguard, which throws the balance forward and I have no desire to shoot a .500 with that grip. For heavy recoil, it is the Ruger Bisley for me and nothing else. The minor complaints are that I don't like the ejector housing or the screw-on front sight.



Better revolvers than the BFR, what would they be? I don't care for the X-frame chamberings at all but you won't find a better platform for them than the BFR.

Have you checked out the case hardening the offer in the custom shop?
 
IMO, only the long cylinder models are worth getting if you have a rifle in those calibers. The .460, .500, and .410 ones are pointless, better revolvers available in those chamberings for less.

Better and cheaper? Where are they? I'll buy one today in .460.
 
On the subject of buying and selling companies, Magnum Research has changed ownership ONCE.

From Davidson's to a local dealer, an X-frame is $50 more than a long frame BFR.


Have you checked out the case hardening the offer in the custom shop?
I handled one at the NRA show. Cool but not quite enough to push me over the edge.

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What chamberings were dropped?

When did BFR's ever have wood grips? I don't recall any. They now have micarta as an option but historically were nothing but that rubber Pachmayr crap.

Kahr has done nothing but improve the BFR lineup and even has a custom shop. The guns are nearly as precisely built as a Freedom Arms but are a fraction of the price.
Craig, as usual I could be wrong. I could have sworn their grips were wooden but now that you mention it they were probably black.

I can't find the 45 Colt in their lineup so I'm guessing they want you to use the 454 Casull instead. I also seem to remember one chambered in 22 rimfire I no longer see.
 
Craig, as usual I could be wrong. I could have sworn their grips were wooden but now that you mention it they were probably black.

I can't find the 45 Colt in their lineup so I'm guessing they want you to use the 454 Casull instead. I also seem to remember one chambered in 22 rimfire I no longer see.

Never a .22 rimfire. As I posted, you can get a dedicated .45 Colt cylinder through the Precision Center. No comment about nearly a decade of Kahr ownership?? :D

The black micarta is pretty nice. I've had a few with those grips on them:

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The MSRP has gone up about $300.00 in nearly 20 years. It started at $1,050 and is now $1,309 and it reflects the increase in material costs.

Also forgot to mention that they will be producing revolvers in .350 Legend (new cartridge) soon (probably a Precision Center proposition only, initially).

There is also rumor of a six-shot on the way...
 
I don't recall there ever being wood grips or .22's. The .45Colt's are five-shot so might as well be a .454 anyway.
 
They used to sell the hogue wood grips as an accesory for the standard plowhandle framed gun
 
My 30/30 BFR came through again this year, downing a 10 pointer, from 127 yards. I wouldn't trade mine, for anything. Mine did have a little problem with the ejector rod, called them, sent it in, and in 14 days, I had it back, fixed, and no charge. Can't complain with that. A very fine revolver indeed. I have a Leopold scope on mine, with the black grip. I put the scope on, for deer hunting, but the open sites were great, and a joy to shoot. It took me awhile, to find the perfect reload, but from there, it was smooth.
 
The BFR is nicer now that it's ever been, the option of the Bisley grip is a HUGE positive and the quality in general of the BFR is very good. I've owned several, including a few of the newest and they're nice guns for sure. They're like a Blackhawk on steroids and with way nicer fit and finish.
 
For amusement i just built one on the site, it came out at 3600 lol.
Ive always wanted a bfr, but its a ways down my list of likely purchases.
 
Once upon a time, there were .22 BFR's, but not rimfires. They were .22 Hornet and they were six-shot.
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Well yes the msrp is more and they put micarta grips on them. But that's doesn't mean they're any worse than before, or going down hill. As for offerings I think they added a bunch and features now. Check this out , they released it not to long ago, it's pretty neat. It lets you make the revolver exactly how you want it, extra cylinders, custom barrel lengths, certain parts case hardened etc.. only thing they don't offer is wood grips lol.

https://www.custombfrrevolver.com/custom-bfr-revolver/configure/8/

LOL designed myself a $3000 .454 Casull ... add to cart ? erm ... nope. Looks good tho

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I figured what the heck, and fiddled with the custom builder on their website.

500JRH, 7.5" octagon barrel, fluted cylinder, bisley grip all stainless steel for about $2K. That's not unreasonable. I'd prefer a 5-5.5" octagon barrel, I'm sure they'd accommodate for a little extra.

I might hafta start squirreling away.
 
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