What firearms "terminology" makes you grit your teeth?

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FTF = Failure To Feed. Can't believe I forgot that one. It 'was' a useful acronym until goofballs started using it to mean "failure to fire". Which is what I thought a misfire was. If an acronym can have two completely different meanings in the same context, it has no meaning at all.

So how do you feel about FTE??? Is it Failure-to-Extract or Failure-to-Eject???
 
Also, a problem comes in when a term is either incorrect or inappropriate for the discussion

Calling all firearms a weapon warms the cockles of anti-gunner's heart. Trust me, I go at it with those people face to face Using "weapon" gives then a big piece of high ground in the discussion. Not allowing them use "weapon" has interesting results. Politically correct people do not like having their grammar corrected. Avatar: That is an early long rifle not a "weapon." It's a flintlock long rifle of a style found in the middle 1700's.
 
Calling all firearms a weapon warms the cockles of anti-gunner's heart. Trust me, I go at it with those people face to face Using "weapon" gives then a big piece of high ground in the discussion. Not allowing them use "weapon" has interesting results. Politically correct people do not like having their grammar corrected. Avatar: That is an early long rifle not a "weapon." It's a flintlock long rifle of a style found in the middle 1700's.
I don't agree with this. The 2nd Amendment does not protect our right to tools, toys or collectibles. It protects our right to defend ourselves, our homes, our families, our country and our liberty. You do that with weapons. To avoid using the term "weapon" to somehow soften the edges does a disservice to the Constitution and its real meaning.
 
Calling all firearms a weapon warms the cockles of anti-gunner's heart. Trust me, I go at it with those people face to face Using "weapon" gives then a big piece of high ground in the discussion. Not allowing them use "weapon" has interesting results. Politically correct people do not like having their grammar corrected. Avatar: That is an early long rifle not a "weapon." It's a flintlock long rifle of a style found in the middle 1700's.

IMO the second you relegate guns to a toy or novelty status, you weaken the reasons for having them. Anti gunners will gleefully point their stupid fingers in your face and tell you that hobbies, and macho symbols of power are not valid reasons to have something so dangerous. They will also point out that they were designed to kill. Kill animals and people. And since you can buy meat from the store "where it's made", they'll also deny hunting as a valid sport and pastime.
People wonder why certain countries are almost limited to air guns for target shooting.

I don't give them the satisfaction of watching me try to backpedal and try to say that the Stoner design is just for punching paper. As soon as they realize I don't care that if they try to label it a weapon, it deflates them a little. And I get to tell them that the reason there is an Israel, and we all aren't learning German as a mandatory subject in school is the weapons hanging above the hearth, and stashed around the house around the Western countries.
 
Dealing with anti-gun people you will get all sorts of la-la land bull. How about pointing out that they need to look at the demographics. Hold their feet in the fire. Remember the first person that starts name calling has lost the debate.
 
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Dealing with anti-gun people you will get all sorts of la-la land bull. How about pointing out that they need to look at the demographics. Hold their feet in the fire. Remember the first person that starts name calling has lost the debate.

I like pointing out how well strict gun control works in Jamaica and Mexico.
 
I was refering to the M27 IAR, not the older M249, yes the IAR standard mag was a 100 rnd drum, although the drums had some reliability problems.
Also about 100 years ago some Artillery Lugers came with 32 round drums.
There are a few street legal cars that are capable of exceeding 220 MPH. Using your logic, 220 MPH is now "standard" top speed for cars. o_O The fact that exceptions exist does not make something "standard".
 
I don't agree with this. [The 2nd Amendment] protects our right to defend ourselves, our homes, our families, our country and our liberty. ... To avoid using the term "weapon" to somehow soften the edges does a disservice to the Constitution and its real meaning.
That means in the context of a discussion on 2nd Amendment rights, guns could and maybe should be called weapons.

But to not do a disservice to the Constitution, maybe we should call them "arms", like the Constitution does!
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That means in the context of a discussion on 2nd Amendment rights, guns could and maybe should be called weapons.

But to not do a disservice to the Constitution, maybe we should call them "arms", like the Constitution does!
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I think the only reason that we don't call them "arms" more often is because of the evolution of language. Same reason we don't talk about a group of folks who are well trained and equipped and say that they're "well regulated". The words have fallen into disuse or the meaning has changed over the years.
 
Today's sightings: nite sites, muzzle break, brake open, minute of whitetail. Gotta quit reading, or maybe, remembering.
 
After shooting at the range on Sunday, my 14 year-old son and I were cruising the store portion when a very excited young-20-something exclaimed to his buddies that they had some “DEagles”. My son cringed and I was proud.
 
How an AR style weapon, often touted in the media as 556 (as if that's the caliber, minus the dot) and how it's so much more destructive than the average hunting rifle.
 
How an AR style weapon, often touted in the media as 556 (as if that's the caliber, minus the dot) and how it's so much more destructive than the average hunting rifle.
It absolutely is. I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who had a cousin and her boyfriend knew a guy who while wasn't in the Army knew someone who once walked past an Army post. A guy was shot in his small toe and the bullet traveled up his leg, tore out all of his vital organs and exited through the back of his head leaving a 5" hole. This is a result of bullet tumbling effect. That's why all of these guns, weapons of mass destruction, need to be banned along with their ammunition in civilian hands as of yesterday. Then too, we could just ban the liberal mindset who actually believe stupid stuff like this.

Ron
 
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