Uses for Full Size .45s
- Thread starter rjk2475
- Start date
- Status
As far as a nightstand, home defense weapon, I don't think 45 can be beat...remember, you're firing indoors, in your home. I want something big, heavy and slow...subsonic. Not sure if that will help with the deafening factor, but cant hurt. full size 45, 12 gauge with buckshot, something of that nature. I want all the energy of that round in the intruder. Just my opinion.
plumberroy
Member
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2006
- Messages
- 789
I just don't get the high capacity craze Unless you are law enforcement or military, someone who runs to trouble. Or a gangbanger /drug dealer who puts themselves in harms way . If you can't get it done with 6-8 rounds you are most likely up that proverbial Fecal matter creek . I carry glocks but it is for a couple reasons 1st they are cost effective 2nd being a lefty I don't have to add an after marker ambi safety 3rd controls are exactly the same from 380 to 10 mm. I carry the 6-10 round guns way more than the hi capacity glocks . I am saving for a 48 as soon as glock makes it with a black slide
rpenmanparker
Member
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2018
- Messages
- 2,456
What's wrong with an aftermarket ambi safety?
My EDC for the past 40 years has been a LW Commander of some sort. If I could ever find a good LW Government I'd gladly carry that. I have reliable 8 rd mags and carry two spares.
I also shoot a 1911 every other month in my clubs defensive pistol matches.
I also shoot a 1911 every other month in my clubs defensive pistol matches.
plumberroy
Member
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2006
- Messages
- 789
I don't want any after market parts on a concealed carry gun . My right handed 870 has a complete left handed trigger group I am waiting on a lefty safety for my Ruger Charger. The 870 is a utility gun and the charger a woods bummin' gun
If I had a 1911 I wouldn't have a problem carrying it , I have been known to carry a G20 10mm
TTv2
Member
- Joined
- Mar 31, 2016
- Messages
- 4,987
I don't have any semi auto .45's, but I will be buying one in the future, either a S&W M&P 2.0 w/ threaded barrel or a Walther PPQ w/ threaded barrel, so you can see my uses are to shoot it suppressed. Dunno if you can consider 10 and 12 rd mags "low capacity" but they are lower than 13 rd Glock and 15 rd FN's.
Have thought about Hi Point .45 for home defense, that holds 9+1.
I wouldn't conceal carry any .45's. Too much penetration for my liking, heavier, larger guns, heavier ammo, less capacity.
Have thought about Hi Point .45 for home defense, that holds 9+1.
I wouldn't conceal carry any .45's. Too much penetration for my liking, heavier, larger guns, heavier ammo, less capacity.
Flatbush Harry
Member
Having just returned from my local range after firing two of my full size 1911s (1 in .45ACP, 1 in 10mm), I wiped them down with RemOil, put them in my safe, and took out my Sig P220 in .45ACP for carry tomorrow since it's clean. I did change holsters but the double mag pouch works for all my single stacks. Since it's still snowy winter, they hide nicely under my jacket.
Not sure that I understood your question.
Not sure that I understood your question.
rpenmanparker
Member
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2018
- Messages
- 2,456
Help me understand something. What is the point of wiping down the outside of a gun when all the dirt is on the inside? Trying to make sense of this.
Mauser lover
Member
I do it after handling firearms because of humidity here. Eliminate those rusty fingerprints! I clean the inside when I can, but the outside gets wiped down post-haste.
huntsman
Member
I sold mine
JTQ
Member
Of course like most gun owners, I only have one mag for my 1911, though I do have more than 7 rounds of ammo in the house. However, I have worked out the common home invasion scenario where several professional assassins break into my house. I've trained my wife and kids extensively in this scenario, when my 1911 is empty I'll throw them the mag, they'll load it up with 7 more rounds, they've gotten very good at this as they have small/nimble fingers, and throw it back to me so I can stay in the fight. (sarcasm)
One may ask when seconds count, why one would choose a less capable round, in a less accurate gun, with a more difficult to operate trigger?
Different strokes for different folks. As Clint Smith says, "you get to pick your gun, and I get to pick mine".
rpenmanparker
Member
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2018
- Messages
- 2,456
Mike .45
Member
- Joined
- Jun 13, 2017
- Messages
- 252
1. I keep the pistol I shoot the best next to the bed. Anything else is a compromise.
2. I have 3 children and all 4 bedrooms are upstairs. Over penetration is a concern.
3. I don't use the 7/8 rounders for this purpose. I keep 3 ten rounders that have had enough rounds through them for me to consider them good to go.
4. If I have dispatched the trouble in 21 rounds of .45 ACP then I am in real trouble.
5. I keep 2 guns in my nightstand safe anyway.
Fine Figure of a Man
Member
Then why choose a handgun for home defense?
Back to the thread topic, I can't understand why anyone that likes handguns wouldn't want at least one in 45 ACP or why they wouldn't want that one to be a 1911.
40-82
Member
- Joined
- Jun 28, 2013
- Messages
- 527
A few years ago I picked up a Series '70 Colt with those awful original sights, which I assumed I would replace in short order. Excited with the new gun, I took a walk down on the farm with it, as I thought about what I was going to do with it.
A groundhog popped just his head out of the hole at fifty yards. Shot him in the head offhand.
OK. Lucky accident.
Few minutes later, another groundhog popped just his head out of the hole at thirty-five yards. I popped him in the head, again offhanded.
I left the gun alone.
I grew up around World War II veterans, who almost to a man, had little love for the 1911, but none of them that I knew were trained handgunners. In my late teens, I encountered a book called Cooper on Handguns. At that time in my life I had enough trouble accepting double action Colts and Smiths, let alone any kind of semi-auto, but the man who wrote the prose in that book couldn't be ignored.
I don't love my single actions any the less. Is it so bad to have a new love?
My usual practice isn't to carry the 1911 in the woods or fields, but sometimes there just isn't time to change. It's more an aesthetic thing. When called upon, the 1911 does what it needs to do.
A groundhog popped just his head out of the hole at fifty yards. Shot him in the head offhand.
OK. Lucky accident.
Few minutes later, another groundhog popped just his head out of the hole at thirty-five yards. I popped him in the head, again offhanded.
I left the gun alone.
I grew up around World War II veterans, who almost to a man, had little love for the 1911, but none of them that I knew were trained handgunners. In my late teens, I encountered a book called Cooper on Handguns. At that time in my life I had enough trouble accepting double action Colts and Smiths, let alone any kind of semi-auto, but the man who wrote the prose in that book couldn't be ignored.
I don't love my single actions any the less. Is it so bad to have a new love?
My usual practice isn't to carry the 1911 in the woods or fields, but sometimes there just isn't time to change. It's more an aesthetic thing. When called upon, the 1911 does what it needs to do.
JTQ
Member
Because I can go around corners easier and maintain control of a handgun easier in a hand to hand situation. Other's may have different needs, and come up with a different solution. Everybody has their own right answer.
My son can rust a blued gun by just holding it once. Seriously. We had his LC9s slide and trigger cerakoted because he could not keep it from rusting any other way. Wiping it down after handling will work for most folks with a blued gun.
rpenmanparker
Member
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2018
- Messages
- 2,456
True dat!
rpenmanparker
Member
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2018
- Messages
- 2,456
Fair enough.
BSA1
member
I have several 1911's from my IPSC days a long time ago. I have never particularly warmed up to them. Alas I have too much money tied up in customizing them to sell them (well, the Series 70 Gold Cup is not for sell anyway. It has amazing accuracy out-of-the-box). Mostly because of the limited choices back then I have never embraced the 45 ACP. So they reside in deep sleep in their boxes in the vault.
My interests have changed considerably in recent years as I have become more of the dreaded "prepper" that are so unpopular on THR. There are so many choices now in modern designed 45 semi-auto pistols I am probably going to add a modern higher capacity one in the not so distant future. As I have surprised myself at how well I like the S&W M&P9 with the 4.25" barrel a M&P 45 is near the top of the list. (Plastic, striker fired omg!) I am not sure what barrel length (4.25" or 5") I will finally choose as everything is trade-off. I don't really seeing it replacing my 9mm's as carry guns but the 5" barrel is too large and heavy for the ladies in my family.
I have been replacing my Clinton era ammo stash with fresh stuff so I want something more to my liking to burn my old 45 supply.
My interests have changed considerably in recent years as I have become more of the dreaded "prepper" that are so unpopular on THR. There are so many choices now in modern designed 45 semi-auto pistols I am probably going to add a modern higher capacity one in the not so distant future. As I have surprised myself at how well I like the S&W M&P9 with the 4.25" barrel a M&P 45 is near the top of the list. (Plastic, striker fired omg!) I am not sure what barrel length (4.25" or 5") I will finally choose as everything is trade-off. I don't really seeing it replacing my 9mm's as carry guns but the 5" barrel is too large and heavy for the ladies in my family.
I have been replacing my Clinton era ammo stash with fresh stuff so I want something more to my liking to burn my old 45 supply.
TTv2
Member
- Joined
- Mar 31, 2016
- Messages
- 4,987
I'm amazed how much my interests have changed in 5 or 10 years, but that class that's detested here and other places is still forefront in my mind most of the time, but now it seems a lot of what's preoccupying my mind is what I want now that may not be available in the future thanks to future local/state/federal laws and regulations.
No, I don't need a 10mm Glock or 50 rd Kel-Tec CP33 .22 pistol, but I only live once and would like to get the flavor of full capacity and not be cucked with 10 rd limits.
I'm not a big fan of .45 for various reasons, but when it comes to suppression the .45 is a plug and play caliber for using suppressors. 10mm can do the same thing with a 200 grain loaded to 1000 fps or less, but over time I've found myself realizing having one gun for one role is better than trying to have one gun for multiple roles.
I agree with you on .45 being a poor replacement for compact, concealed 9mm pistols; they're just too big and the smaller 9mm gun will always be more comfortable to carry than a larger .45 and when you've become so use to one gun, why change it unnecessarily?
Old Dog
Member
Full size .45 ACP pistols are low capacity pistols? What about 15 plus 1?
rpenmanparker
Member
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2018
- Messages
- 2,456
For many years I have avoided .45ACP pistols thinking they just weren't going to do anything for me. I have focused on 9mm and .22LR to keep my range costs as low as possible and been fully satisfied with that. But as part of a protracted effort to acquire a full size 1911 style .22LR pistol I purchased an inexpensive ATI .45ACP 1911. The idea was to modify it with a .22LR conversion slide. Well that didn't work out as planned, and I finally satisfied my .22LR itch with a GSG 1911-.22 which I have just finished fully modifying with all the available CWAccessories upgrades.
So that leaves me with a .45ACP 1911 that I never wanted in the first place. Being of the "if given lemons, make lemonade" mindset, and always looking for a new way to spend hobby money, I have adopted the ".45" and easily learned to love it. Enough to lavish cash on it. I shoot only with red dots and had to spend a bit to have the dovetail insert for the sight mounting plate fitted professionally to the dovetail. It came too large. Now I have discovered the sight mounting screws won't stay tight even with Loctite due to the high recoil shocks, short screw holes and insufficient contact areas. So I am having the holes drilled and tapped down through the dovetail insert right into the top of the slide for a more secure mount. Also the other two screws for the sight onto the plate; having them drilled and tapped into the slide as well. I'm pretty sure the longer, larger screws, properly Loctited, will do the job.
I wouldn't do all that if I didn't really enjoy the shooting experience. I really like it. Great trigger. I can see better inherent precision in the gun and the .45 ACP rounds than in my much pricier Ruger SR1911 9mm Commander. And that one is pretty, darn precise already. The recoil and noise are not at all bothersome. Sure the ammo is costlier than 9mm, but it ain't a kidney.
I am a .45 ACP 1911 convert. Not exclusively, but I do like having one in the range rotation.
So that leaves me with a .45ACP 1911 that I never wanted in the first place. Being of the "if given lemons, make lemonade" mindset, and always looking for a new way to spend hobby money, I have adopted the ".45" and easily learned to love it. Enough to lavish cash on it. I shoot only with red dots and had to spend a bit to have the dovetail insert for the sight mounting plate fitted professionally to the dovetail. It came too large. Now I have discovered the sight mounting screws won't stay tight even with Loctite due to the high recoil shocks, short screw holes and insufficient contact areas. So I am having the holes drilled and tapped down through the dovetail insert right into the top of the slide for a more secure mount. Also the other two screws for the sight onto the plate; having them drilled and tapped into the slide as well. I'm pretty sure the longer, larger screws, properly Loctited, will do the job.
I wouldn't do all that if I didn't really enjoy the shooting experience. I really like it. Great trigger. I can see better inherent precision in the gun and the .45 ACP rounds than in my much pricier Ruger SR1911 9mm Commander. And that one is pretty, darn precise already. The recoil and noise are not at all bothersome. Sure the ammo is costlier than 9mm, but it ain't a kidney.
I am a .45 ACP 1911 convert. Not exclusively, but I do like having one in the range rotation.
- Status
