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Pocket guns need high quality pocket holster especially striker fired ones like factory issue Glock that have short relatively light trigger pull.

Pocket holster or not, how do you shoot yourself in the eye with a gun thats in your pocket? Not sure if I could even contort myself into a position to do that on purpose

This woman sounds like Carol Burnett, whose sun committed suicide with a pistol. She refused to admit her son could ever do that. "The gun just somehow went off," she steadfastly maintained. "It just.....went off."

As is often the case in these types of accidents, there was probably horseplay involved

Link in second post of this duplicate thread suggests a different explanation. Sad, regardless.

I wonder if the story is a cover up, like it was a suicide or covered up suicide and the family isn't giving all the details. Either way I know I don't fully trust both sources. Something is going on here which either source isn't getting right.
Either way this doesn't relate entirely to guns, only that a gun was used in a death. Unless we start talking about gun safety, I don't feel this thread belongs here.

I think some people who carry a gun every day become complacent . Then there is a higher probability of tragedies like this.

You would be astounded at the number of people who are complacent in every aspect of their lives. Driving is the one that really amazes me. Yesterday the wife and I were driving down an Interstate behind a car that was weaving all over the road and shoulder. We finally got a safe place to pass it (at high speed). The stupid women was reading a newspaper as she drove. I am so glad I don't drive for a living any more.

Weird Final Destination type deaths happen all the time. That being said, there seems like more to this story. Just the physics of the alignment of a barrel in a pocket to the eye seem impossible (if pants) or if in a coat/vest, easier but one chance in a million (not official statistic of course) for that hit. Based on the details in this link from the other post about this (https://abc13.com/rising-country-music-star-dies-in-accidental-shooting/5208751/) I am skeptical about the official story. Seems more like negligence to me. Either way, tragic and preventable. Serves as a reminder to us all to refresh our safety practices and make sure we aren't a danger to ourselves or others.

I know, or knew, a guy I used to work with who committed suicide. There never was any explanation for his death from anyone for about 2 weeks. I didn't want to call his wife and couldn't get any info from my previous employer so I just assumed it was suicide.

Generally, situations like these are suicide, but I could be wrong.

The gun "a prop for a music video" statement is a little weird, but it isn't quite as strange as a gun in his pocket "going off" and the bullet hitting him in the corner of the eye.

Tragic nonetheless.

Strange week in the news, as the one website linked to this:
https://abc13.com/man-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-the-penis-police/5167987/

paulsj said:

Pocket guns need high quality pocket holster especially striker fired ones like factory issue Glock that have short relatively light trigger pull.

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I bet this is what happened. I tried carrying a small 380 in my front pocket without a holster. It was a double action so the trigger needed a full pull to go off.

It rotated upside down. Makes sense. The magazine is the heavy part and shifts the weight to the back. Heavier side goes to the bottom

Like you said, if it was a striker fired gun, he could have put his hand in his pocket and pushed the trigger with the tip of his fingers.

JONWILL said:

Like you said, if it was a striker fired gun, he could have put his hand in his pocket and pushed the trigger with the tip of his fingers.

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And, if he was looking down at the gun that would explain the bullet hitting his eye

First of all this is sad.
2nd, carrying any sidearm in an unsecure manor is irresponsible.

As some have stated about striker fired. I can kind of envision him looking down while playing his guitar and hitting or resting the guitar against the malaligned pistol unknowingly.
There is also a thing to learn. When to and not to need a round chambered or even carrying.

skeeterfogger said:

There is also a thing to learn. When to and not to need a round chambered or even carrying.

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That's odd... I thought the proper takeaway here was that you should always keep your firearm in a proper holster, even if you are pocket carrying.

I never thought the lesson would be to carry a useless paper weight, or leave the gun at home.

Huh, guess I've been taught wrong all these years.

Learn something new everyday.

tark said:

Carol Burnett, whose sun committed suicide with a pistol.

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Are you thinking of someone else?

ClickClickD'oh said:

That's odd... I thought the proper takeaway here was that you should always keep your firearm in a proper holster, even if you are pocket carrying.

I never thought the lesson would be to carry a useless paper weight, or leave the gun at home.

Huh, guess I've been taught wrong all these years.

Learn something new everyday.

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Guess you have.

ClickClickD'oh said:

That's odd... I thought the proper takeaway here was that you should always keep your firearm in a proper holster, even if you are pocket carrying.

I never thought the lesson would be to carry a useless paper weight, or leave the gun at home.

Huh, guess I've been taught wrong all these years.

Learn something new everyday.

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There are *clearly* times not to carry at all. The problem is it’s only clear to everyone else after the fact. Same with empty chamber carry.

None of this was best prevented with training or proper gear. It was best prevented by not carrying. Or empty chamber carrying. It could have also been prevented by a law-abiding citizen obeying a law that disarmed him. Coulda, woulda, shoulda...

All that was sarcasm.

paulsj said:

Pocket guns need high quality pocket holster especially striker fired ones like factory issue Glock that have short relatively light trigger pull.

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I agree that ALL pistols should be carried in a holster at all times when carried pocket carry or no pocket carry

Light factory Glock trigger. Pocket pistols like Glocks.....uh no and no. The G42 may be the only pocket pistol Glock has and that trigger ain't light.

Glocks have been accused of a lot of things but light short trigger pulls aren't one of them.

It was pretty clear, from the linked artivlein the other thread, that the gun followed him home from the music video studio and killed him. The gun clearly held a grudge against him and took the first available opportunity to end his life. Darned old grudge-holding gun......

Glockula said:

I agree that ALL pistols should be carried in a holster at all times when carried pocket carry or no pocket carry

Light factory Glock trigger. Pocket pistols like Glocks.....uh no and no. The G42 may be the only pocket pistol Glock has and that trigger ain't light.

Glocks have been accused of a lot of things but light short trigger pulls aren't one of them.

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One can install trigger with heavier pull in certain models. I think they called NY1 & NY2.

As with all stories that have documentation (on video) and have a story that smells to high heaven, they will never show the video exposing the true story. Horse has been beaten enough.