Which 6.5 Grendel Bolt gun to get.

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Ive had a hankering for a light bolt gun in 6.5 Grendel for quite sometime, well Ive got the spare cash to burn on one now sooooo......

The current options are

Howa 1500 Mini, 20" Heavy barrel, hogue type stock. (I can also buy a heavy barreled action, and walnut stock from brownells, but cost will be more than the CZ) The heavys the only option i can get free shipping on.

Cz 527 American, 24" sporter barrel, in the beechwood stock (walnuts not worth the extra 100 bucks to me).

Ruger American Predator. 22" sporter barrel, synthetic stock, AR mags

Theres pros and cons to each of them, the Ruger is very, very, far back in the running just because of the magazines it takes.

One con for all of them is that their mags stick out the bottom. The CZs not horribly obtrusive, and Ive cut down howa mags to be flush with the botom of the mag well.
What kills the ruger for me is the AR mags. Ive got no good options for shortening them, and even tho i have both rotary, and AI mag wells for a short action rifle, i dont know if i could get either to work with the grendel.

The Howas cheaper by about 60 bucks than the CZ. Its got a decent synthetic stock, thats a touch longer than the CZ. The heavy barrel should theoretically make it a little more stable off a pod when target shooting, and its overall weight isnt much more than the wood stocked CZ. The 5 round magazine can probably be made into a 3 rounder and flush with the bottom of the mag well. The short 20" tube bothers me a little, I got close to 200fps more velocity in my 24" ar over my 20" (barrel quality was better, and i think the 24 was just plain faster)

The CZ has a longer barrel (24") which I prefer. The stock is wood, but not particularly pretty as far as i know. It weights .2lbs less than the synthetic stocked Howa. The factory mags arent particularly offensive in length or location. Comes with rings.
The only real downside is that 527s often require higher rings to keep the bolt handle off the scopes ocular bell. I have a leupold vx-f 2-7x32 im planning on using on the gun, so the relatively small ocular may mitigate that.

The ruger only really has price going for it, its about 100-150 bucks cheaper than either of the other two. Weight, even tho its a full size short action, is actually the same as the howa at 6.6lbs. I happen to really like the Americans, but unfortunately I dislike the magazine options this one comes with.

anyway, those are just my mental ramblings on the subject so far. Im probably going to place my order in the next few days, so i have some time to muse yet, and im curious what y'all think.
 
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Ive had a hankering for a light bolt gun in 6.5 Grendel for quite sometime, well Ive got the spare cash to burn on one now sooooo......

The current options are

Howa 1500 Mini, 20" Heavy barrel, hogue type stock. (I can also buy a heavy barreled action, and walnut stock from brownells, but cost will be more than the CZ) The heavys the only option i can get free shipping on.

Cz 527 American, 24" sporter barrel, in the beechwood stock (walnuts not worth the extra 100 bucks to me).

Ruger American Predator. 22" sporter barrel, synthetic stock, AR mags

Theres pros and cons to each of them, the Ruger is very, very, far back in the running just because of the magazines it takes.

One con for all of them is that their mags stick out the bottom. The CZs not horribly obtrusive, and Ive cut down howa mags to be flush with the botom of the mag well.
What kills the ruger for me is the AR mags. Ive got no good options for shortening them, and even tho i have both rotary, and AI mag wells for a short action rifle, i dont know if i could get either to work with the grendel.

The Howas cheaper by about 60 bucks than the CZ. Its got a decent synthetic stock, thats a touch longer than the CZ. The heavy barrel should theoretically make it a little more stable off a pod when target shooting, and its overall weight isnt much more than the wood stocked CZ. The 5 round magazine can probably be made into a 3 rounder and flush with the bottom of the mag well. The short 20" tube bothers me a little, I got close to 200fps more velocity in my 24" ar over my 20" (barrel quality was better, and i think the 24 was just plain faster)

The CZ has a longer barrel (24") which I prefer. The stock is wood, but not particularly pretty as far as i know. It weights .2lbs less than the synthetic stocked Howa. The factory mags arent particularly offensive in length or location. Comes with rings.
The only real downside is that 527s often require higher rings to keep the bolt handle off the scopes ocular bell. I have a leupold vx-2 2-7x32 im planning on using on the gun, so the relatively small ocular may mitigate that.

The ruger only really has price going for it, its about 100-150 bucks cheaper than either of the other two. Weight, even tho its a full size short action, is actually the same as the howa at 6.6lbs. I happen to really like the Americans, but unfortunately I dislike the magazine options this one comes with.

anyway, those are just my mental ramblings on the subject so far. Im probably going to place my order in the next few days, so i have some time to muse yet, and im curious what y'all think.

AA sells a variety of 6.5G mags including a 4-rounder:

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https://www.shopalexanderarms.com/6_5_Grendel-Magazines.html
 
The 4s the same overall length as the 10, so it will stick down the same amount.
That's the issue with the AR mags, since the AR has a fairly deep mag well, any magazines designed for them are long, even if they are reduced capacity.

Thanks for the suggestion tho!
 
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Yeah that beech stocked guns what I'm looking at right now.

Tho....ya know, the Walnut MIGHT be worth the extra to me....

you could buy the beech, there about $100 difference you can buy the walnut stock from cz for $180. i bet you could get 50 to 75 bucks for that beech stock. plus with the cz you get free rings and dont need to spend money on bases.
 
Howa mini barreled action and a Boyd's "At One" stock. Howa makes a great rifle, albeit a little chunky, and the AT One stock with an adjustable but plate can be made to fit like a glove.
 
Howa mini barreled action and a Boyd's "At One" stock. Howa makes a great rifle, albeit a little chunky, and the AT One stock with an adjustable but plate can be made to fit like a glove.
I'd considered the idea, but I want a light Sporter style rifle, and shipping on a Boyd's stock to hawaii is about 100 bucks.

The Brownells walnut Sporter stock could be made to work, but again the only barrel option is the heavy 20" total cost I think came out to 560 for that set up.
 
Ive had a hankering for a light bolt gun in 6.5 Grendel for quite sometime, well Ive got the spare cash to burn on one now sooooo......

Ole buddy you have put yourself in the thick of it haven't you? Way to go!
If it was easy it would be boring.;)
I'm just going to wish you the very best in luck putting it together and wait in anticipation of the report when you are finished. The Grendel is an amazing little round and you would be hard put to make a bad choice in a package to wrap it in. Have fun and shoot till you smile!
 
527 here. The only dislike I have is the removable magazine that disallows loading from the top combined with the CRF extractor that doesn't allow loading the chamber. To load it, you have to drop the magazine, stuff a round under the lips and re-insert it. Nevertheless, my preference for the Mauser-style action outweighs this so that I prefer it over the Howa. For the kind of light game the 527 is appropriate for it might not matter, but if all Mausers worked this way, we'd all still be using double rifles.

Where I see an advantage for the Howa would be a mini precision rifle build using a chassis.

I'm using a Boyds At One stock with the 527. I use it because I need to fit several people's LOP. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's ugly and heavy. I love the original CZ stock. It's a bit short for me and already has a generous recoil pad so it will never fit perfect but it's the right compromise for such a neat small rifle.

Forget the Ruger American. What I'd like to see is a Ruger M77 in Grendel, but if they did it they'd probably use the extended bolt like on the 77/357 and 77/44 etc.
 
Ole buddy you have put yourself in the thick of it haven't you? Way to go!
If it was easy it would be boring.;)
I'm just going to wish you the very best in luck putting it together and wait in anticipation of the report when you are finished. The Grendel is an amazing little round and you would be hard put to make a bad choice in a package to wrap it in. Have fun and shoot till you smile!
And, thats kinda why its taken me this long to get around to making decision on getting one, couldnt ever decide on exactly what i wanted. I missed the deal on the light weight howa barreled action x39s and Grens, but I wasnt sure what i wanted to do anyway lol.

Ive actually still got a couple dozen rounds of ammo from my ARs, so Ill at least have something to base line the gun with besides factory ammo.
 
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I’m expecting 2800ish with 103/105’s in 243 LBC from a 24” tube. Not terribly interested in the lighter pills for my uses, but guys run the 95’s up over 2900, and of course, the 87’s faster still.

Mine’s a gasser, naturally.
 
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I’ve got 2 - 527’s in Grendel. The first is one I put together with a 527 action and Lothar Walther varmint contour barrel. We then pillar bedded the action in a CZ walnut stock. It’s very accurate and I hunted deer with it this past season. The other is a standard weight 24” barrel. Not as good a shooter, but still very good. I think bedding it will help. Both are loads of fun. I love the CZ triggers and to me, that’s an advantage over the Howa.
 
The Howa has the smoother action, is cheaper, and out of the box will likely be more accurate.

The CZ has better overall build quality, l LOVE the set trigger, and it has the correct barrel length.

I'm paying off the CZ American rustic (beechwood stock) and will probably also end up with an American Varmint (25.6 inch heavy barrel).

You will likely have to glass bed/free float the CZ.
 
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