Chiappi Double Badger 22LR/.410

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Was wondering if anybody on this forum has one of the above rifle/shotgun combo's and what you thought about it? Yesterday while at my LGS I ran across one that was .22WMR/.410 and it was really neat handling with the double triggers, and the lever used to drop down the barrels. My LGS didn't have the .22LR/.410 but was assured it was equally as nice handling as the one on display. I noted the triggers broke right at 3.5#s using snap caps.

Too make a long story short I went ahead and ordered one on an impulse from my LGS, and it should arrive in about a week. I understand that they make them in Italy so that should be a plus. I'm very much aware of the Savage Model 24V as I do have one of those in the .222/20ga., that came in real handy in culling the coyotes while hunting quail out here in the early 90's. The only thing I didn't care for was the selector was on the single hammer. To be perfectly honest at times I would have it on shotgun when I wanted .222 Remington, and would scare the coyote who was out of range, into the next county, and vice versa for the quail.

Anyway, anybody have one or had one, I sure would like to hear from ya good bad or indifferent let me have it. The only reason I want it is I do reload for .410 and might even use it for combination snowshoe rabbits and partridge in the UP Michigan later this year.
 
I have one, in 22lr/.410, I really like it for squirrel hunting. Rifle is accurate but the trigger on my rifle barrel is a bit gritty. The barrels are not regulated at shotgun ranges, the .410 hits about a foot lower than the 22 at 25 yards but I just aim lower. I didn't like the sights so I put a forward mounted pistol scope, 2-7 power. Some brands of 22 dont extract very well and stick in the chamber. I usually pry the empty case out with the next round going into the chamber.
 
I've had it about 5 years. It was very stiff to break open at first but it loosened up. Ive shot a whole pile of 22 through it and maybe 4-5 boxes of .410. Quality ended up being better than I expected for the price, wood to metal fit is good, overall fit and finish is good
 
IF the rifle bbl. and the shotgun bbl., don't shoot to the SAME point of aim, I sure wouldn't call that "good" quality!

Personally, I wouldn't want anything that you have to aim over there to hit over here! Been there done that, with Savage 24's!!

DM
 
For the price I am fine with having different points of aim for each barrel. If I remember correctly, I paid about $250, at the time it was all I could afford but I wanted an over under combo gun so bad so I took the plunge. If the price was higher I would be more picky :)
 
Last night I got on the You Tube in regards to the Double Badger, and found out that the general consensus is that the barrels are aligned however the shotgun barrel shoots about one foot lower at 25 yards, which is about the total distance that the .410 is effective using the 2 1/2" shells, which really doesn't present a problem, instead of taking a fine bead on the ghost ring rear sight, you just take a full bead. I'm not sure that I indicated earlier that I do reload for the .410ga. so the cost of ammo is a non issue.

BTW Spazzy that is a fine looking set up you have there, my only question would be how do you adjust for the flying targets such as partridge or quail etc..

Incidentally I paid just a tad over $300.00 with tax.
 
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I couldnt get used to the shotgun barrel hitting low with the iron sights on flying targets. I did so poorly with clays that i gave up on it for birds. I mostly use it for slower moving game so the scope doesn't bother me hunting for squirrels or bunnies (that are standing still)
 
I couldnt get used to the shotgun barrel hitting low with the iron sights on flying targets. I did so poorly with clays that i gave up on it for birds. I mostly use it for slower moving game so the scope doesn't bother me hunting for squirrels or bunnies (that are standing still)
You shouldn't have to "get used to" something that is poorly built!

It should be right in the first place!!

DM
 
Well DM if you keep worrying about everybody else's "substandard" firearms I'm afraid you're going to get old before your time.

I just got home and the phone rang and it was my LGS telling me my Double Badger was in and ready for pick up, now that is really fast, as they just ordered it shortly after 12PM on Tuesday. When I got down there they explained that an affiliate store within driving distance had one. So lucky me. When I got home from the LGS I broke it down and noted that the bores were absolutely filthy, probably from being test fired, so I quickly cleaned the bores and noted that they shined like a spank babies butt. I plan on doing my testing tomorrow as it's just about time for supper. The stock definitely is not walnut but some type of hardwood with fairly decent figure, and the wood to metal fit is quite adequate, the checkering is pressed but gives me a great feel for it.

Tomorrow will be the real test for it all though I'm not going to be broken hearted, as I'm only into it for slightly over $300.00, if it is a wall hanger, oh well. BTW I've got quite a collection of firearms which a few cost anywhere from $1000.00 to 6,000.00 and I've seen some Kreighoffs up in the $30,000 and higher bracket so I do know quality when I see it. I'll definitely post some pictures when I'm done.

Hang in there Spazzy, I now understand your reasoning for the scope.
 
You shouldn't have to "get used to" something that is poorly built!

It should be right in the first place!!

DM

I wish the barrels were regulated but that would drive the price up substantially, probably into the $600-800 range or even more? It seems like doublebarrel shotguns with well regulated barrels are that price. I wouldn't be interested if the gun was expensive.

It was cheaper than an older savage model 24 or newer model 42.
 
Well DM if you keep worrying about everybody else's "substandard" firearms I'm afraid you're going to get old before your time.
I'm not worrying about any ones firearms, but like everyone else, I do have an opinion about the quality of some of them.

One thing is for sure, if no one ever points out the "substandard" points of individual firearms, the mfg's will never improve them! And, aren't we all in favor of the quality of out firearms improving??

BTW, I'm already old, so I don't have to worry about that any more... lol

DM
 
Well surprise, surprise, both barrels are fairly well regulated, and although both were shooting about 3-4" below point of aim they adjusted to that with just a couple of turns with the smallest bit screw driver, on the rear sight, now when I get home I'll have to put a little drop of Loctite on that little screw. Incidentally I had two brands of 3" slugs one was a Russian "Bear" brand, and the other was Winchester, BTW I didn't have any 000 buck with me so I'll have to pick some up at my next stop to one of my LGS's. The trigger pull on the .22LR broke really nice at 3.5#'s of pressure, however the shotgun trigger broke right at 5#'s and slightly over, according to my RCBS Trigger gauge. All testing was done at 25 yards in the off hand position, and to be totally honest with ya, I'm not nearly as steady as I once was, so bare with me. Below are the results of my testing.

The first target I was sighting in the .22LR with a crosswind of 5-10MPH. That same target after having the elevation adjusted to my liking, and a 3" 7 1/2 shot of Winchester fine shot. The fourth is of the ammo I had available to me, the Bear 3" Magnum and the Winchester 3" slugs as well as the .22LR Remington Golden Bullet. I do believe that is one of my 2 1/2" hand loads in Federal casing of #8 shot also see my ammo supply in the back of my truck. And the last but not least another sighting in photo shooting another hand load in Federal casings I do believe that one was loaded with 1/2OZ of shot over H110 powder and a CB wad. Hopefully that gives ya all a brief synopsis of what a cheap over/under can do with a nimrod at the controls.
 

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Here is the actual 1st target to show how low the shotgun barrel was shooting until I used that little screw to adjust the elevation. Once I got it home I used some Loctite to secure it so it doesn't move.
 

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