Pietta 1851 & 1860 Revolver Shoulder Stocks

S&S Firearms markets a shoulder stock kit for $85 if you are ambitious. It appears similar to the Pietta 1851 Navy stock. It also does not state if the extended hammer screw is included.

Jim

http://www.ssfirearms.com/proddetail.asp?prod=W18236

Read up and make sure they fit. There are some compatibility issues. I have some that fit my original colts and they don't fit my piettas. YMMV

Malachi Leviticus Blue said:

Much better price and since it's unfinished, there is no reason not to do a bit of fitting to make it fit your chosen revolver.

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I agree, but it is for a 3-screw 1851 Navy frame like the Pietta stock in your first link. In order to fit a 4-screw cut-for-stock 1860 Army frame, one would have to remove the 4th screw studs from the revolver, and the length of the backstrap screw clamp might not be long enough to work with an Army-size grip. Just be aware that there are at least two styles of Pietta grips since Pietta went to CNC machining ~2000; the older Piettas may be different still, and then consider the variations in wood concerning Uberti, ASM, ASP, et al, and installing/removing the stock from these pistols.

Pate's 1860 Army book shows a an original 1860 Army that has had a shoulder stock on/off it several times and the pistol grip wood it quite scarred where the stock yoke contacts it.

I have 8 Pietta 1851 Navy "type" pistols and I have an inquiry in to S&S about that kit.

That's why I like the stock in your second link for my ASM 1860 Army 4-screw. It is a copy of Sam Colt's patented Type 3 stock (Type 1, 2, & 4 designs did not meet his approval). Just wish I had a spare couple hundred bucks sitting around!

Thanks for starting this thread!

Regards,

Jim

I got a reply from S&S this morning. It sounds like they have more than one kit in stock.

My inquiry:

"I am interested in the W18236 shoulder stock kit.
http://www.ssfirearms.com/proddetail.asp?prod=W18236
It appears to be a Pietta, but I have never seen it in kit version before. Does it include the extended replacement hammer screw?"

S&S reply:

"Hi Jim, these may not be Pietta, we bought remaining inventory from a parts dealer that closed up many years ago. They come with the parts shown. Phil"

If the kit does not include the 2-piece extended hammer screw, VTI sells has them (Item 37 Code 425 $5.00, Item 37a Code 429 $4.50).

http://www.vtigunparts.com/store/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=66&cat=Pietta+1851+Navy

Just FYI.

Jim

My first attempt to add a stock was to completely replace the backstrap and the grips of an 1851 with a stock that had a top tang that replaced the strap that surrounds the hammer and a bottom tang that screws in below the main spring.
It was intended to be a permanent modification.
The gentleman that bought it from me eventually added a 14" barrel, which was not a success. It quickly worked loose and bent the mandrel.
I suspect that he dropped the gun the first time that he fired it after he tried to support the fore-end with his hand like it was a rifle... .

Waldo, that sounds very interesting. Would you happen to have an old photo of it?

Jim

Found this on GB today. 1860 Army by Navy Arms (earlier Pietta) with the correct replica Colt Type 3 shoulder stock. The pics do not show the pistol wood grip insofar as any possible damage from the stock yoke. IMO, the current bid of $295 is worth the stock alone, and the nice stock wood and grip wood are fairly well matched.

Joe Salter is a fairly reputable name as a dealer in original pistols.



https://www.gunbroker.com/item/810588758

For your perusal. Wish I had the bucks to bid on it.

Regards,

Jim

expat_alaska said:

Waldo, that sounds very interesting. Would you happen to have an old photo of it?

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No photos - that was back in the early '80s and almost everything from that time is long gone.

It was a pretty straight-forward job, though. You're basically replacing the Colt's grip backstrap with a top and bottom tang and fastening these tangs to the existing holes in the frame.

A couple years ago, a fellow on Armslist near me sold me a shoulder stock for 1860 Army, but was missing the locking nut for the j hook. Got it for $65, and a new nut from VTI was $5 IIRC. I had to do some minor fitting but it suits my Uberti 1860 just fine. I couldn't pass on it for that price, but in the safe it sits.

I can't really speak to the practicality, but this is about the most fun you can have with BP.

Geeesh, looks like a gun from the 1860s on a background from the 1960s.

Yours appears to be an 1860 Army .44 . This one is a .36 that finally sold after many days on the market. Appears to be an 1861 Navy with a semi-fluted cylinder. Too many problems with the screws for me to entertain a bid.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/799495461

Regards,

Jim