New Ruger Wrangler.... I'm confused

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Whatever the case, I'm going to buy a Wrangler as soon as they are available. That Gunblast video sold me with the close-up images and the accuracy tests. That and the clearly superior design.
All coil and music wire springs, Ruger transfer bar safety, and the loading gate interlock.
Internally it's just like the Single Six, and the price is where anyone can afford one.
What more could you want?

I tell you what is great about the Wrangler over the Single Six, a free spin cylinder for easier loading/unloading. :)
I can't believe the Single Six doesn't get that from the factory. :scrutiny:
 
How about checking back in when they have a Birds Head grip like this lovely model.

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A Wrangler Shopkeeper would be nice. Knowing Ruger, they'll let the sales of the current Wrangler let them decide if that type of Wrangler is worth making. I'll give Ruger a year. ;)
 
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Specifications


  • Heritage Rough Rider Specs.

    • Model: RR22B6
    • Barrel Material: 1215 Steel
    • Barrel Length: 6.5 in.
    • Caliber: 22 Long Rifle
    • Cylinder Capacity: 6 Rounds
    • Cylinders Material: 12L14 Steel
    • Finish: Blue
    • Frame Material: Aluminum Alloy
    • Grip: Cocobolo wood
    • Land and Grooves: 6
    • Land Width: .076 inch
    • Rifling Twist: 1 Turn in 14 inches RH
    • Overall Length: 11.785 inches
    • Sights: Open fixed type; Notch at Rear
    • Trigger Pull: Approximately 6 Pounds
    • Weight Unloaded: 33.4 ounces
Ruger Blackhawk top Heritage Rough Rider bottom
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Also available Smooth Silver Satin finishapplication, as it is more rust resistant than its blued counterpart.
 
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They can call it "aluminum alloy" if they want, which has obviously changed in the last couple years, because ZAMAK has a 4% aluminum content but it's still primarily zinc. If the Heritage wasn't made of zinc, they wouldn't need a steel model for those states with Saturday Night Special laws.
 
I started both of my boys off with my Ruger Single Six. After learning the basics I let them shoot the Ruger MKII and a 1911 with a Kimber 22lr convention.
They enjoyed shooting the autos but always went back to the Single Six. When asked why they said it was more fun to shoot.

I always thought the Single Six would be a great handgun for a new shooter
 
I always thought the Single Six would be a great handgun for a new shooter

The only real pitfall to be aware of; and this goes for any weapon were you might have to interact with the hammer, is making sure that they know how and can manipulate the hammer properly.

Signed,
Personal Experience.
 
I don't know about Minnesota but the Massachusetts exclusion is because they no longer have an internal lock. Ruger stopped fooling with that a few years ago. Maybe it was supposed to be Maryland due to the fired cartridge case requirement???

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I'm not sure what you are talking about there. There are plenty of Rugers on the AG's approved list of firearms that can be sold in MASS. Even though they did away with the internal lock a few years ago.
 
They can call it "aluminum alloy" if they want, which has obviously changed in the last couple years, because ZAMAK has a 4% aluminum content but it's still primarily zinc. If the Heritage wasn't made of zinc, they wouldn't need a steel model for those states with Saturday Night Special laws.

These are the type of comments that just will never end. It really gets old. I would not doubt it or be surprised if Ruger is not using the same parts. And of course this guy is going to tell us why they made a steel model with no knowledge or facts at all. It could just very well be they are offering a upgraded option of a steel model, Just as simple as that. They probably are offering a steel model to shut up some of the ridiculous bashers.
And regardless, the funny thing is, their Alloy model works just fine and dandy.Always have.
This is nothing more than some very lame attempt to continue to try and put down a good budget plinker from some twisted kind of jealousy or other nonsense. At least they offer a steel option. Why not Ruger? With all the years Heritage has been in business, I have no doubt that the metal they have chosen has been more than adequate to get the job done.

And by the way, this is Rugers first attempt at a Budget 22.cal. So until it has been in the field and tested the way the Heritage has, maybe it is wise to see how their budget gun holds up. And that includes all their Budget guns.
And if any thinks Ruger just spits out great products with no problems, then they are living in a dreamland. And that goes for their center fire revolvers as well.
Log onto the Ruger forum and you will find there are many quality control issues and some very serious issues. Many sent back over and over.

It really seems that the bashers are trying to compare the Heritage to the single six. And this is a ridiculous comparison. Again, no one is saying the Heritage is in that class. Nor do they compare the quality to one. So if you want to compare the New Ruger Budget gun to the Heritage budget gun then fine. But please do so with facts rather than just running off with personal speculation used as fact.
Ruger alloy is better than Heritage alloy. What a down right ridiculous statement.
Some of these posters need to get a job on CNN. So many fake facts.
 
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These are the type of comments that just will never end. It really gets old. I would not doubt it or be surprised if Ruger is not using the same parts. And of course this guy is going to tell us why they made a steel model with no knowledge or facts at all. It could just very well be they are offering a upgraded option of a steel model, Just as simple as that. They probably are offering a steel model to shut up some of the ridiculous bashers.
And regardless, the funny thing is, their Alloy model works just fine and dandy.Always have.
This is nothing more than some very lame attempt to continue to try and put down a good budget plinker from some twisted kind of jealousy or other nonsense. At least they offer a steel option. Why not Ruger? With all the years Heritage has been in business, I have no doubt that the metal they have chosen has been more than adequate to get the job done.

And by the way, this is Rugers first attempt at a Budget 22.cal. So until it has been in the field and tested the way the Heritage has, maybe it is wise to see how their budget gun holds up. And that includes all their Budget guns.
And if any thinks Ruger just spits out great products with no problems, then they are living in a dreamland. And that goes for their center fire revolvers as well.
Log onto the Ruger forum and you will find there are many quality control issues and some very serious issues. Many sent back over and over.

It really seems that the bashers are trying to compare the Heritage to the single six. And this is a ridiculous comparison. Again, no one is saying the Heritage is in that class. Nor do they compare the quality to one. So if you want to compare the New Ruger Budget gun to the Heritage budget gun then fine. But please do so with facts rather than just running off with personal speculation used as fact.
Ruger alloy is better than Heritage alloy. What a down right ridiculous statement.
Some of these posters need to get a job on CNN. So many fake facts.
Fact, some states have so-called "Saturday Night Special" laws against guns made from zinc. That's not fake news. Fact, Heritage markets a steel framed model for that reason. Not fake news either. I seem to recall that in their own marketing. I'm so tired of triggered Heritage owners with a chip on their shoulders who lose their cool anytime someone says something unflattering about them.

Yes, Ruger's aluminum is better than Heritage zinc. The fact that the Ruger has an aluminum frame makes it a higher quality firearm than the zinc Heritage. In fact, KelTec's aluminum extrusions are better than any zinc, anywhere. You can make all the excuses you want for Heritage, they are cheap guns, made from cheap materials, with cheap finishes. The Wrangler may be a total turd but from what we know, it appears to be a much better made "cheap" gun than the Heritage.


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I'm not sure what you are talking about there. There are plenty of Rugers on the AG's approved list of firearms that can be sold in MASS. Even though they did away with the internal lock a few years ago.
Sorry, I don't keep up with the insane gun laws of blue states. Either way, it has nothing to do with melting point laws.
 
I'm not hating the new Ruger.
But because I already have a Heritage with adjustable fiber optic sights that shoots fine, I won't be buying another SA .22.
But I really do like the hammer block safety of the Heritage and think that it's a great feature for teaching a child to shoot or for hunting.
I also like the more familiar Colt type indexing clicks when rotating the cylinder compared to the new Ruger which doesn't have them.
I bought the Heritage long ago not even knowing that it had an alloy frame.
I was disappointed at first when I learned that the frame was painted, but because the gun shoots so well for its price, the cheap frame doesn't bother me now.
And the barrel and cylinder are blued steel which I personally prefer instead of a Cerakote finish.
There should be some fun plinking wars at the gun ranges between the 2 models among friends in the way of good clean fun and competition.
Just like the during the days of the old west! ;)
 
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All I can say at this point is that this thread made me want to shoot a .22 revolver today so I took out my GP100, a couple of my kids, and 500 rounds. We headed out to the desert and had a blast. My daughter is only seven and today was her first day shooting a handgun; she loved it! I will be ordering a Ruger Wrangler tomorrow and will fully report on it when I have had some rounds down the tube. I am telling my wife that I am purchasing this gun for my daughter....ya know because she had so much fun today and won't quit talking about it...

On a separate note, I remember when new guns were a rare thing. Each year was a remade version of what was already out there. I, for one, am very excited that we are living in the times were new models come out fairly frequently. The Heritage RR has obviously earned a loyal following and that speaks volumes. I am hopeful that the Ruger will do the same for me.

Have a good evening,

Matt
 
And Craig C says "
Fact, some states have so-called "Saturday Night Special" laws against guns made from zinc. That's not fake news. Fact, Heritage markets a steel framed model for that reason. Not fake news either. I seem to recall that in their own marketing. I'm so tired of triggered Heritage owners with a chip on their shoulders who lose their cool anytime someone says something unflattering about them.

Yes, Ruger's aluminum is better than Heritage zinc. The fact that the Ruger has an aluminum frame makes it a higher quality firearm than the zinc Heritage. In fact, KelTec's aluminum extrusions are better than any zinc, anywhere. You can make all the excuses you want for Heritage, they are cheap guns, made from cheap materials, with cheap finishes. The Wrangler may be a total turd but from what we know, it appears to be a much better made "cheap" gun than the Heritage."


This is a great example of what they call a half lie. Notice how it use's the fact that there are Saturday Night Special laws but then goes on to give just total fake information both about Heritage and Ruger with nothing to back it up. Lol, Now "he" is the one insulted because Heritage owners have a chip on their shoulders and lose their cool anytime someone says something unflattering about them? Of course the fact that Heritage owners do not like half baked lies thrown at theme anymore than anyone owning any model gun made. Now the New Ruger is barely out, he does not own one, held one, not privy to the actual metals used, but he is now a expert on the new gun's metal.
He goes on to make a comment like "it now appears" to be a much better made "cheap" gun than the Ruger. Lol, here we go again, more total, nonsense made to sound like a truth.

I hope Ruger enjoys the same success that Heritage has enjoyed in the many years in business, and hope that Ruger fans can enjoy the same "fun" and days out with the family shooting there gun as well as have many families and owners of the Heritage. have. What I do know, is I have not seen any Heritage fans demean or disparage the New Ruger Wrangler especially with lies, speculation, innuendos and false Rhetoric.

A very interesting conversation by MGR at Kentucky Gun store, was how he pointed out that they carry just about every revolver manufacturer made. And many times someone comes in and wants a low cost gun for plinking. He said "the heritage is by far the largest volume revolver sold. Around 20 a day. I can only guess how many have been sold, I would say in the millions. And I would bet that does not sit well with Craig C. and other Heritage bashers.

By the way, did you notice how he did not mention the specs of the Ruger, where it clearly said "Zinc cast Alloy" in the Grip Frame? Lol, is this a Saturday night Special?
My guess both the Ruger and the Heritage have the same material in the grip frame and using the same materials, aluminum alloys and steel etc.
I understand Brand Preference, but it is time to be honest.
 
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By the way, did you notice how he did not mention the specs of the Ruger, where it clearly said "Zinc cast Alloy" in the Grip Frame?

I was wondering when someone would notice this....

Looks like it's pretty much just going to be a Cera-koted Rough Rider.
 
I didn't start this thread to talk about the Heritage Rough Rider, I've had one and have no interest in getting another, start another thread to discuss that revolver. This thread is about the Ruger Wrangler, and I'd like it to still be open when more reviews come out, or someone actually gets one in hand and can give a report.
 
I was wondering when someone would notice this....

Looks like it's pretty much just going to be a Cera-koted Rough Rider.

While the Wrangler may be targeting the Heritage's market, the Wrangler is not a ceracoted Rough Rider or even a Bearcat. The Wrangler is a ceracoated and less expensively built Single Six.

In other words, the Wrangler's "heritage" is from another Ruger, not a Heritage. :D
 
I think here is what we can say for sure about the Ruger at this point:

Barrel and Cylinder are steel, no liners
Barrel length is 4.62"
.22 LR Only at this time
Sights are fixed
Serialized portion of the frame is aluminum alloy
Grip frame is zinc cast alloy
Finish is Cera-kote
Price is around $180.

There are some reviews out there that show favorable accuracy and better than competitor fit and finish.
The rest seems to be all conjecture and crystal ball at this point.

With the amount of interest this model has generated I am sure that we will start to get some actual user feed back soon. I am sure this will drive new models and options down the line.

I wish continued success and enjoyment to the Heritage customers and the same for future Wrangler owners. The west is big; there is room enough for more than one budget priced rimfire sixgun.
 
I ordered the silver one, when they come back in stock. Oddly, I'm more excited about this firearm than I have been in a while of firearm purchases. Seems like it'll be a lot of relaxing fun plinking with it. I have go fast guns, sometimes its nice to have a cupholder full of .22's lounging looking for targets of interest.
 
If any Ruger representatives pay any attention to this forum they have to be ecstatic. I don’t remember the last time I saw a thread go 9 pages with people excited about a budget 22! I’m a little excited myself though . I used to own a heritage in 17 HMR, it worked just fine, but the round was sort of an expensive waste in a revolver. The Wrangler should be a perfect plinker, the kids might be seeing one soon.
 
I spent a little time last night on gunbroker looking at single six revolvers just to see what they are selling for. And yes brand new in the box they are selling for $500+ dollars. But there were many used ones for way less than that.

There were many very clean guns that looked almost unfired for $400 or a little less. Many between $300-and $350. And even a few for less than $300 and a couple around $250. And I only looked at around 9 pages of the over 30 pages of them for sale.

Anyone who can't find a deal on a blued steel single six for a price they can live with isn't trying. And thats a gun with adjustable sights and both cylinders. It was surprising how many old models and even a few flat latches were listed.

Go to a gun show and you may find the same or better deals and not have to pay for shipping and transfer fees. The guys at the GS are some of the same ones with guns listed on GB.

Buy one of the original Ruger single sixes and you don't have to worry about what the new Ruger is made of and its its any better than the heritage RR. You will have the best gun and one that will last a life time if cared for.

That being said I will most likely buy one once they hit the shelves. I don't need another 22 but whats need have to do with it?
 
I think the whole idea of both the Ruger and the Heritage is for just good old fashion fun. And both will be great trainers for anyone new. I am sure Ruger will sll a few million. I feel sure the millions of Ruger fans out there that never thought of a nice little 22.cal plinker and just could not afford the Single six will now be jumping on the band wagon with a renewed interest. Great for the sport.
Might even be a new competitive sport with the Young. (a whole lot better than a video game for sure). And probably a lot cheaper as well.
 
And Craig C says "
Fact, some states have so-called "Saturday Night Special" laws against guns made from zinc. That's not fake news. Fact, Heritage markets a steel framed model for that reason. Not fake news either. I seem to recall that in their own marketing. I'm so tired of triggered Heritage owners with a chip on their shoulders who lose their cool anytime someone says something unflattering about them.

Yes, Ruger's aluminum is better than Heritage zinc. The fact that the Ruger has an aluminum frame makes it a higher quality firearm than the zinc Heritage. In fact, KelTec's aluminum extrusions are better than any zinc, anywhere. You can make all the excuses you want for Heritage, they are cheap guns, made from cheap materials, with cheap finishes. The Wrangler may be a total turd but from what we know, it appears to be a much better made "cheap" gun than the Heritage."


This is a great example of what they call a half lie. Notice how it use's the fact that there are Saturday Night Special laws but then goes on to give just total fake information both about Heritage and Ruger with nothing to back it up. Lol, Now "he" is the one insulted because Heritage owners have a chip on their shoulders and lose their cool anytime someone says something unflattering about them? Of course the fact that Heritage owners do not like half baked lies thrown at theme anymore than anyone owning any model gun made. Now the New Ruger is barely out, he does not own one, held one, not privy to the actual metals used, but he is now a expert on the new gun's metal.
He goes on to make a comment like "it now appears" to be a much better made "cheap" gun than the Ruger. Lol, here we go again, more total, nonsense made to sound like a truth.

I hope Ruger enjoys the same success that Heritage has enjoyed in the many years in business, and hope that Ruger fans can enjoy the same "fun" and days out with the family shooting there gun as well as have many families and owners of the Heritage. have. What I do know, is I have not seen any Heritage fans demean or disparage the New Ruger Wrangler especially with lies, speculation, innuendos and false Rhetoric.

A very interesting conversation by MGR at Kentucky Gun store, was how he pointed out that they carry just about every revolver manufacturer made. And many times someone comes in and wants a low cost gun for plinking. He said "the heritage is by far the largest volume revolver sold. Around 20 a day. I can only guess how many have been sold, I would say in the millions. And I would bet that does not sit well with Craig C. and other Heritage bashers.

By the way, did you notice how he did not mention the specs of the Ruger, where it clearly said "Zinc cast Alloy" in the Grip Frame? Lol, is this a Saturday night Special?
My guess both the Ruger and the Heritage have the same material in the grip frame and using the same materials, aluminum alloys and steel etc.
I understand Brand Preference, but it is time to be honest.

Jeb Stuart, yours is exactly the kind of emotional, triggered response I'm talking about. It's an inanimate object, not your mother or your dog. If you are going to come at me and call me a liar, you better have your ducks in a row. Please point out exactly what in my post is a "half lie". The pressed-in, glued-in barrel? The zinc alloys? The low grades of steel? The sprayed on finish? How about the plastic ejector button?

NOWHERE on the Ruger site does it say that the grip frame is zinc. That information has only come from RealGuns and as I've pointed out, they have been wrong before. As I also said, it very well may be but at this point, we do not know. If it is, it is disappointing but hopefully an aluminum XR3-RED grip frame will bolt in its place. The grip frame is a non-critical part and structurally, zinc would work fine but I would prefer aluminum for its lighter weight.

People don't talk about this but the frame and grip frame of the Colt Frontier Scout are ZAMAK. For this reason and others, I do not own one. If the Ruger had a zinc frame, I would not buy one.

It is a fact that there are several states with "Saturday Night Special" laws, banning guns with a receiver that melts at 800-1000° and that those laws were aimed directly at cheap guns made of zinc. Which melts below 800°. Aluminum melts at 1200° or more. Which is why you can buy aluminum framed S&W's in those states, like Minnesota but not anything made from zinc, like the Rough Rider. If this fact hurts your feelings, write your congressman.

Yes, the Heritage is popular because it's cheap. Why would this bother me? I don't care what you or anybody else buys. I'm just tired of the fact that you can't call a cheap gun "cheap" without triggering an emotional response from some owners. It's a cheap gun, cheaply made and it's supposed to be that way. This new Ruger is also a cheap gun but "appears" to be a better made cheap gun than the Heritage, which apparently triggers the fanbase. Hell, I want a pair because it's cheap and light.

Yes, let's quote the whole sentence for context, I said "The Wrangler may be a total turd but from what we know, it appears to be a much better made "cheap" gun than the Heritage." You see, that is speculation and it is given as that and nothing more. The "may be a total turd" allows for the possibility that the Ruger is a POS. The "from what we know", accepts that we do not yet know everything. The "appears", is because at this point, all we have are pictures and videos. So the word "appears" would seem to be the best fit for this context. Here's an example of how the Ruger "appears" to be a better cheap gun than Heritage. Aside from the fact that it's finished in Cerakote, instead of spray paint.

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Sounds like you are trying hard to convince yourself. Get ya a new Ruger and start having some fun. Now how about we cease fire and let the Ruger fans enjoy their new Wrangler and let the Heritage fans enjoy theirs. These are both just 22.cal plinkers. The idea is to have fun. I bet there is many a young man that is quite happy with his Heritage Six shooter and now there will many Ruger fans as well. Enough of this nonsense. Please move on. Thank you. Now tell us what color you ordered.

If down the road, Ruger does come out with a Birds Head short barrel and the Cherakote seems to be holding up, I may just get one. If not, I might just get a Heritage. No big deal either way for me.
 
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