New Ruger Wrangler.... I'm confused

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Thanks Bannock. I don't think any of those were the gun I had. They look a little nicer than mine. I may be wrong about the Germany part. Maybe it came from somewhere else. I did break it. I tried fanning the hammer and broke the tip off the trigger where it rest in the hammer notch. So I took it apart and used the parts list to order a new trigger and had it in a few days. I don't remember how I ordered the trigger. I may have went back to the pawn shop where I bought and they ordered it for me.

But once replaced that was the end of fanning the hammer. Forever. Besides I couldn't hit anything doing that. Sort of like shooting a bump stock. Lots of noise and a waste of ammo. But thanks for looking those up.:):):)
 
They kinda ugly....and I'm getting one!

Actually the only thing I dislike about the looks is that after thought looking muzzle.. ... I'm thinking I'll put a target crown on there or something.. .. I dunno yet.
 
Alright Bannock I went to GB and typed in single action 22. There are 84 pages of guns and not all single actions. Anyway I made it through about 15 pages and I think this was the gun I owned. Or one like it.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/808708489

A Sportarms made in Germany and sent to Miami Fla.

Actually the only thing I dislike about the looks is that after thought looking muzzle.. ... I'm thinking I'll put a target crown on there or something..

Loon all the Ruger 22 single actions have barrel crowns that look like that. They work fine as they are.
 
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Howdy Again

I can tell you from what I have seen in the Ruger photos the Wrangler hammer is not the same as a Single Six hammer. Here is a photo of a Single Six hammer. Notice it is flat on the side. If you look at the photos of the Wrangler on the Ruger website you will see there is a relief cut into the sides of the hammer. There is also a groove cut into the rear of the Wrangler hammer which does not exist on the rear of a Single Six hammer. I have never seen a rear groove like that on any Ruger hammer. Not having personally examined a Wrangler, I cannot comment any further on whether or not the rest of the internal parts are the same, but the hammers are not.

I am guilty of making the assumption that the only difference between the current Single-Six and the Wrangler is change of materials used to make the receiver and the grip. I am basing my opinion on how Ruger has made previous runs of fix sight ones.

I may be wrong.

edited: I am wrong at least as far as the hammers being the same.
I had the opportunity to watch Gun Blast and NRA videos on a large screen computer monitor and the hammers are different. The Wrangler hammer has a cut out on both sides of it. My first thought is that it is to accommodate changes necessary for free spin cylinder but why would it need the same cutout on both sides?

Lighter weight so it falls faster and hits harder? Hitting harder would increase the chance of the round going off. I think this is important when using budget ammunition in a budget gun. It is a common mod on race guns.

I can see a couple of reasons for them making changes to the internal parts;

The first is the New Model Single-Six was introduced in 1973 making it a old design. 46 years in today’s manufacturing world is a long time. I would not be surprised to learn the engineers at Ruger have figured out slight changes to the internal parts to cut costs, speed up manufacturing and/or to improve the action. Introducing a new model is the perfect time to make these changes.

The other is Ruger is changing the design to create sales of the parts.

Two separate production lines and parts inventory doesn’t make a lot of economic sense. If shooters embrace the design of the Wrangler could we be seeing a updated Single-Six using the redesigned parts?

TTv2,

I see no reason not to be excited about the Wrangler. I have neglected acquiring .22 Rimfire handguns. In fact I don’t even own one although I can shoot my Sons Buckmark and The Lady brought a SR22 last Fall. As I previously posted I am not impressed with Heritage “close enough” parts fit and quality of the casting of the frame.

As the cowboy saying goes; “You boys are going to get the drizzles if you don’t come out of the rain.”

edited to New Model Single Six.
 
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They kinda ugly....and I'm getting one!

Actually the only thing I dislike about the looks is that after thought looking muzzle.. ... I'm thinking I'll put a target crown on there or something.. .. I dunno yet.
You have to remember that this is a budget gun. By not cutting a crown cuts cost.
I have an older NM Single Six that has a flat crown with just the outside edge of the barrel beveled .
 
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Loon all the Ruger 22 single actions have barrel crowns that look like that. They work fine as they are.

You have to remember that this is a budget gun. Buy not cutting a crown cuts cost.
I have an older NM Single Six that has a flat crown with just the outside edge of the barrel beveled .
I totally get that, I'm sure they do exactly what they are supposed to lol. It's not really a complaint. I'm happy to re shape it to my personal preference.
Honestly the barrels the only part that looks budget to me, and it's fine. Would I prefer some taper and a nicer looking muzzle? Sure, but not for another 20-50 bucks MSRP.
 
I totally get that, I'm sure they do exactly what they are supposed to lol. It's not really a complaint. I'm happy to re shape it to my personal preference.
Honestly the barrels the only part that looks budget to me, and it's fine. Would I prefer some taper and a nicer looking muzzle? Sure, but not for another 20-50 bucks MSRP.


I personally think that the shroud for the extraction rod make the barrel look a little like a longer pistol had a couple of inches lopped off the end. I would like to see what they do with a six inch revolver I'm convinced that itlli look better.
 
I personally think that the shroud for the extraction rod make the barrel look a little like a longer pistol had a couple of inches lopped off the end. I would like to see what they do with a six inch revolver I'm convinced that itlli look better.
Oooooo yeah, didn't think of that!
 
The first is the Single-Six was introduced in 1973 making it a old design. 46 years in today’s manufacturing world is a long time. I would not be surprised to learn the engineers at Ruger have figured out slight changes to the internal parts to cut costs, speed up manufacturing and/or to improve the action. Introducing a new model is the perfect time to make these changes.

The Single Six was introduced in 1953 IIRC. That makes it 66 years old.
 
I have a dislike for something that's been hyped up, yet hasn't been proven and is in very few people's possession and is given a veritable seal of excellence vs competitors offerings that have been proven for many years.
You don't like it because others do??? I can actually identify with that because overzealous fan clubs can ruin it for anybody. Case in point, the Heritage Rough Rider. That said, NO ONE here has given it the "veritable seal of excellence". We haven't even seen the damned thing in person yet. We're excited about a new gun and want to find out for ourselves. You're reading too much into our enthusiasm. As I've said several times, it could very well turn out to be a total turd.

You're obviously jaded about Ruger and for seemingly silly reasons. I'm real leery of their current production revolvers too. You'd think after 60yrs they'd have their act together. :confused:

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I had the opportunity to watch Gun Blast and NRA videos on a large screen computer monitor and the hammers are different. The Wrangler hammer has a cut out on both sides of it. My first thought is that it is to accommodate changes necessary for free spin cylinder but why would it need the same cutout on both sides?

Lighter weight so it falls faster and hits harder? Hitting harder would increase the chance of the round going off. I think this is important when using budget ammunition in a budget gun. It is a common mod on race guns.

I think it's so the center of the hammer strikes directly where the firing pin is to create more force and better primer ignition, but it could also be to reduce the chances of an improperly centered hammer biting the soft frame.


TTv2,

I see no reason not to be excited about the Wrangler. I have neglected acquiring .22 Rimfire handguns. In fact I don’t even own one although I can shoot my Sons Buckmark and The Lady brought a SR22 last Fall. As I previously posted I am not impressed with Heritage “close enough” parts fit and quality of the casting of the frame.

As the cowboy saying goes; “You boys are going to get the drizzles if you don’t come out of the rain.”

edited to New Model Single Six.
I'm cautiously optimistic on the Wrangler. I think it'll be okay, but will leave a lot to be desired. One thing I can say with the HD videos and pictures of the Wrangler, they look to me like they're made of plastic.
 
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I think anyone that has ever picked up a Ruger Single Six, is somewhat awed by the feel and beauty of the gun. It really is a heir loom piece. And I am sure the Wrangler will be a fine budget gun to get out and do some plinking. While I do not own a Single Six, I can recall in my mind how I felt handling it and just admiring the gun. However when I see pics of the New Wrangler, the Cerakote coating just causes a "Flinch" reaction. I hate it. Please not on this particular firearm. Of course this is just my personal feeling, I understand others may love it. And I understand that the Wrangler is just a Plinker to throw in the range bag. And I am not a regular shooter of the Single Action. I know the price average of the Single Action six is around $500 and now the Wrangler lmore than half that price. But when comparing the two in just a pic, makes me think that I would just go ahead and save up for the Single Six.
Maybe it would have been better if Ruger had met somewhere in the middle and just done a nice Bluing on the gun. Say around a selling price $300.00.
Regardless, I really thing I would just save up for the single Six, Yes more than double the price, but a lot better value in the long term.

I have a ruger LCR9mm and a LCR22. The blueing on the 22.cal looks so nice. The coating on the 9mm looked NOT so nice. And then I had the wearing of the coating, sent in twice and still kept occurring and finally on the third trip to Ruger they completely took off the original coating and just blued the cylinder and now looks fantastic.

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Ratshooter

Nice work with the Sportarms identification! Looking at it kind of reminds me of something with the initials H.R.R.; just to add something to the ongoing discussion!
 
I went back and looked at the Gun Blast review and saw Jeff repeatedly dry fire the Wrangler. Is that really ok or was that just for visual effects? I have never dry fired any of my Single Six's.
 
I went back and looked at the Gun Blast review and saw Jeff repeatedly dry fire the Wrangler. Is that really ok or was that just for visual effects? I have never dry fired any of my Single Six's.

The manual is available on the Ruger site. It says it's ok to dry fire the Wrangler.
 
I would be apprehensive to dry fire it. Ruger says it’s ok to dry fire the GP100 .22 and it’ll mark the cylinder mouth.

I just buy a box of 500 drywall anchors, works for me.
 
WOW!

After 17 pages and over 400 posts one might think there are no new comments that can be said about the Wrangler. The name and design of the Wrangler appeals to the Cowboy that is in many of us. Yet I think we have not considered what the most famous cowboy in the world would think about it.

I am, of course, asking :What would John Wayne do?

Well go to the 6.25 minute mark on the Gun Blast video for your answer. It sure answers the question for me. Remember the gun fight scene in the movie "The Sons of Katie Elder"?

 
I went back and looked at the Gun Blast review and saw Jeff repeatedly dry fire the Wrangler. Is that really ok or was that just for visual effects? I have never dry fired any of my Single Six's.

If the Wrangler is set up the Ruger way, like the Single Six, the firing pin is just long enough to reach the rim of a cartridge but not long enough to hit the chamber of the cylinder.

This does put wear on the firing pin bushing, which could develop problems with excessive dry firing. But, once-in-a-while dry firing should be okay.

Knowing this, I've dry fired my Single Six and Bearcat on occasion. However, I do prefer drywall anchors just because.
 
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Soooo, my FFL buddy said we got a couple weeks to wait for ours to ship.... Guess we're not cool enough lol
 
Maybe it would have been better if Ruger had met somewhere in the middle and just done a nice Bluing on the gun.
One more time, you can't blue aluminum or zinc. Your choices are anodizing, a coating or plating. Heritage spray paints theirs. Ruger cerakotes the Wrangler. That's an upgrade. It's non-traditional but it's one of the concessions that must be made to reach the low price point. So if you really want bluing, you save your money and buy a Single Six but the days of finding a nice one like this for $200 are probably gone.

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Soooo, my FFL buddy said we got a couple weeks to wait for ours to ship.... Guess we're not cool enough lol

Oh goody. We can have 17 more pages of talking about it. I'm in.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

After 17 pages and over 400 posts one might think there are no new comments that can be said about the Wrangler.

You have just under estimated us.:D
 
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Ratshooter

Nice work with the Sportarms identification! Looking at it kind of reminds me of something with the initials H.R.R.; just to add something to the ongoing discussion!

Be nice. The Sportarms was a nice looking gun when it was new. The H.R.R. is not a nice looking gun even when new.
 
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