Finally managed to get together with my FFL buddy, and pick up my 527, and recently arrived 597.
I spent a couple hours yesterday tinkering with them...yes, i know, i didnt even shoot them yet.
The 527s very nice, Im quite happy with it.
Weight ended up being 5lbs 15oz, where as the spec weight is 6.4lbs. I THINK they are likely listing the weight for the heaviest cartridge option, figure the .17 hornet.
Total weight scoped with my 4.5-14x32 Timberline, is 7lbs 2oz.
The machining and finish on the metal parts are excellent, no stray tool marks visible above the wood, and very few below. Action runs fairly smooth, unless you put decent pressure to the side of the bolt handle and it will bind, but almost all actions do that. The magazine follower can be felt when running the bolt, but cartridges dont seem to cause it to drag.
The stock is nicely contoured and checkered, machine i think. The finish appears to be spray applied and the checkering is significantly darkened by the oil. Ill tape it off and do a few more fluff and buff coats on the rest of the stock.
The Recoil lug is bedded into the stock, which is obviously done after finishing. Unfortunately that means the bedding compound, which looks like jbweld, didnt stick to the oil stock and when I pulled the action out it yanked out most of the bedding behind the recoil lug.
As a result, I roughed up the whole action inlet, 99% iso degreased it, and rebedded the whole thing with Devcon.
Something I didnt take into consideration, is that there are compound angles on the bottom/sides of the action. I didnt get enough wax on there to make removal easy and tore a chunk out when i removed the action. since it was a rough break i simply coated both sides in crazy glue and pressed it back into place after knocking it off the action. Looks pretty seamless now.
Ill also say that I think Devcon sticks better to stuff, and much better to waxed metal, than Marine Tex, or JBweld. I doubt id have had any issue using the other two...but they dont come in the handy double tube dispenser.
Triggers excellent, standard breaks at 3lbs with creep ONLY noticeable if you really really try. Set its breaking at 1lb, but im not positive i like the way that feels.
The Burris Timberline is mounted in bottom bored Burris rings, which ill probably swap for a lower option. The new style bolt handle sits RIGHT at the top of the dovetails. This means that as long as your scopes bell dosent drop below the level of bottom of your rings it will clear.
Im really thinking about a DIP rail right now, figure if it dosent work properly I can complain and send it back. Tho possibly the Warne rings, as I believe they currently offer the lowest options (that i can afford).
All in all this is going to be a fantastic Sheep, goat, pig rig.....well as long as it dosent shoot sideways lol.
Ill upload more pictures today, both guns were in pieces most of yesterday.
The Remington 597 was a little disappointing. Couple hours work tho and its nice.
I owned one of the very early ones, got it a couple months after they were announced. Paid 150 for it, which is what I payed for this one.
I LIKE the 597 design, i think its better in a lot of ways than the ruger 10/22, or the model 60s that ive owned. Accuracy was on par with the others, the trigger while heavy, was crisp and predictable, it FELT like a real rifle without being heavy, and the bolt locked back on an empty chamber. Compared to the 10/22s barrel tension system. the 597 provides a much larger surface area, and as long as the barrel and receiver are square i think offers less chance for a cockeyed barrel. Magazines were kinda crappy (tho i never had a bad one).
On my original the action was the smoothest of ANY gun Ive used,
This ones rough around the edges, there are mold lines visible on the bolt, which werent there on my original. The bolt on my first gun was also polished, as were the rail troughs and underside where the hammer contacted. None of the extra work was done on this one.
There was also obvious rust and finish issues on the bolt. Im GUESSING that it was poorly prepped, and poorly rinsed off after bluing.
The trigger components seem good, actually besides the rough bolt, everything looked about as good as my original.
The stock pressed heavily on one side of the barrel, so i sanded out the channel and bedded the action to the stock. Since this is a "camo" gun, the finish actually makes it a pretty tight fit as is, but I did it anyway. I also didnt consider that the finish on the stock would be easier to pull off than the epoxy would be to separate from a waxed receiver, and ended up pulling a fair chunk of finish off the inside...either way its tight going in and out. I realized this isnt a hydro tip, its sprayed on somehow. The finish is pretty hard and tends to flake. Ill have to do a flat or semi gloss clear coat over the top of this one i think.
While i had it apart I dropped in an Mcarbo spring kit, and Volquartsen target hammer. The trigger pull is now 2lbs on the nose, and breaks like glass. There is a very slight take up, which if were longer I would call a 1st stage since its just taking the play out of the mechanism.
Im topping it with a burris FF2 3-9x40, which befits is "real" rifle size, and dosent make it all that heavy. Total weights bout 7lbs.
I considered shooting it with just the fiber optic irons, but I decided why torture myself.
While i can SEE fiber optics better, 2 green blobs and a reddish one, on a blobby target really dont do much for my enjoyment of shooting.
Hopefully ill get a chance to get out and shoot these in the next couple days, might even come home from work one day and hit the range on the way home.
I spent a couple hours yesterday tinkering with them...yes, i know, i didnt even shoot them yet.
The 527s very nice, Im quite happy with it.
Weight ended up being 5lbs 15oz, where as the spec weight is 6.4lbs. I THINK they are likely listing the weight for the heaviest cartridge option, figure the .17 hornet.
Total weight scoped with my 4.5-14x32 Timberline, is 7lbs 2oz.
The machining and finish on the metal parts are excellent, no stray tool marks visible above the wood, and very few below. Action runs fairly smooth, unless you put decent pressure to the side of the bolt handle and it will bind, but almost all actions do that. The magazine follower can be felt when running the bolt, but cartridges dont seem to cause it to drag.
The stock is nicely contoured and checkered, machine i think. The finish appears to be spray applied and the checkering is significantly darkened by the oil. Ill tape it off and do a few more fluff and buff coats on the rest of the stock.
The Recoil lug is bedded into the stock, which is obviously done after finishing. Unfortunately that means the bedding compound, which looks like jbweld, didnt stick to the oil stock and when I pulled the action out it yanked out most of the bedding behind the recoil lug.
As a result, I roughed up the whole action inlet, 99% iso degreased it, and rebedded the whole thing with Devcon.
Something I didnt take into consideration, is that there are compound angles on the bottom/sides of the action. I didnt get enough wax on there to make removal easy and tore a chunk out when i removed the action. since it was a rough break i simply coated both sides in crazy glue and pressed it back into place after knocking it off the action. Looks pretty seamless now.
Ill also say that I think Devcon sticks better to stuff, and much better to waxed metal, than Marine Tex, or JBweld. I doubt id have had any issue using the other two...but they dont come in the handy double tube dispenser.
Triggers excellent, standard breaks at 3lbs with creep ONLY noticeable if you really really try. Set its breaking at 1lb, but im not positive i like the way that feels.
The Burris Timberline is mounted in bottom bored Burris rings, which ill probably swap for a lower option. The new style bolt handle sits RIGHT at the top of the dovetails. This means that as long as your scopes bell dosent drop below the level of bottom of your rings it will clear.
Im really thinking about a DIP rail right now, figure if it dosent work properly I can complain and send it back. Tho possibly the Warne rings, as I believe they currently offer the lowest options (that i can afford).
All in all this is going to be a fantastic Sheep, goat, pig rig.....well as long as it dosent shoot sideways lol.
Ill upload more pictures today, both guns were in pieces most of yesterday.
The Remington 597 was a little disappointing. Couple hours work tho and its nice.
I owned one of the very early ones, got it a couple months after they were announced. Paid 150 for it, which is what I payed for this one.
I LIKE the 597 design, i think its better in a lot of ways than the ruger 10/22, or the model 60s that ive owned. Accuracy was on par with the others, the trigger while heavy, was crisp and predictable, it FELT like a real rifle without being heavy, and the bolt locked back on an empty chamber. Compared to the 10/22s barrel tension system. the 597 provides a much larger surface area, and as long as the barrel and receiver are square i think offers less chance for a cockeyed barrel. Magazines were kinda crappy (tho i never had a bad one).
On my original the action was the smoothest of ANY gun Ive used,
This ones rough around the edges, there are mold lines visible on the bolt, which werent there on my original. The bolt on my first gun was also polished, as were the rail troughs and underside where the hammer contacted. None of the extra work was done on this one.
There was also obvious rust and finish issues on the bolt. Im GUESSING that it was poorly prepped, and poorly rinsed off after bluing.
The trigger components seem good, actually besides the rough bolt, everything looked about as good as my original.
The stock pressed heavily on one side of the barrel, so i sanded out the channel and bedded the action to the stock. Since this is a "camo" gun, the finish actually makes it a pretty tight fit as is, but I did it anyway. I also didnt consider that the finish on the stock would be easier to pull off than the epoxy would be to separate from a waxed receiver, and ended up pulling a fair chunk of finish off the inside...either way its tight going in and out. I realized this isnt a hydro tip, its sprayed on somehow. The finish is pretty hard and tends to flake. Ill have to do a flat or semi gloss clear coat over the top of this one i think.
While i had it apart I dropped in an Mcarbo spring kit, and Volquartsen target hammer. The trigger pull is now 2lbs on the nose, and breaks like glass. There is a very slight take up, which if were longer I would call a 1st stage since its just taking the play out of the mechanism.
Im topping it with a burris FF2 3-9x40, which befits is "real" rifle size, and dosent make it all that heavy. Total weights bout 7lbs.
I considered shooting it with just the fiber optic irons, but I decided why torture myself.
While i can SEE fiber optics better, 2 green blobs and a reddish one, on a blobby target really dont do much for my enjoyment of shooting.
Hopefully ill get a chance to get out and shoot these in the next couple days, might even come home from work one day and hit the range on the way home.
