Henry Side Gate Loader.

i want one in 30-30!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice looking gun. If I didn't have a Winchester 94AE in .30-30 I'd love one.

And .... wasn't there an earlier post about this somewhere??

I holding out for them to make one in .44 magnum. With the steel receiver.

I want the one in .38-55. I would like to see them come out with one in color case hardened steel with just a simple flat checkered butt plate rather than with Henry's goofball enormous recoil pad. A carbine steel butt plate would be okay too.

I think that they have crossed a line now and will have to start adapting as many of their center fire lever guns as possible to use a loading gate. The problem is that it appears that the loading gate has ended up needing to be quite close to the ejection port in the .30-30 class rifle. Perhaps that's why they omitted the .45-70 in this version.
The .35 Remington has a base diameter of .458" and diameter-wise it probably just barely clears the ejection port. If it were not rimless it would probably would not work.
But, will it work in the Big Boy?
The base diameter of the .45 Colt is .480" and the rim is .512".
The base diameter of the .44 Magnum is .457" and the rim is .514".
Unless the shorter action Big Boy is wider top to bottom than the .30-30 / .375 Rem. action it might not work.

buy all you want, I will not stand in your way. none for me. I have a marlin cowboy in .32 H&R magnum with tube load and find it a PITA to load-reload(top off tube) and unload.

I'd be tempted by a 357 Mag, 45 Colt, or 44 Mag.
Not sure why they started with30-30, 38-55, and .35 rem? The new and used market it flush with dirty birdie 30-30's.
If future calibers are based off the sales of their 3 current caliber offerings - they might as well cancel them now.

drobs said:

If future calibers are based off the sales of their 3 current caliber offerings - they might as well cancel them now.

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I would not agree. There are plenty of .30-30 enthusiasts alone who would buy this rifle now with the loading gate.
And, since Marlin continues to offer .35 Remington, there must still be a mass market for it.
The .38-55 will appeal to mainly enthusiasts of this cartridge and won't sell a lot, but is most welcome.
It's only 8 ounces heavier than a Marlin 336C at 7 pounds, which is a minimal 7% more, and so is quite acceptable.
It's very appealing and well made and has the loading gate that held off so many from buying one before.
Hunters will cheerfully buy the .30-30 and the .35 Remington.

If people want to go cheap then they will buy a used rifle in .30-30 regardless, but it hasn't stopped new .30-30s from selling well.

eastbank said:

buy all you want, I will not stand in your way. none for me. I have a marlin cowboy in .32 H&R magnum with tube load and find it a PITA to load-reload(top off tube) and unload.

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Since this rifle has a loading gate, what is your objection?

Old Stumpy said:

Since this rifle has a loading gate, what is your objection?

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I'm thinking he doesn't like tube magazines on lever guns in general

BlueHeelerFl said:

I'm thinking he doesn't like tube magazines on lever guns in general

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Ah, I think that you're right. I misunderstood his comment.

Nice gun, but that's from a guy who has a major love for the lever rifles. Yeah, I watched 50's and 60's cowboy movies and TV Shows (Wire Paladin, San Francisco). I'm old.
That said, everyone has their likes and dislikes and reasons for each. Different guns and calibers are good for different things. Personally, I like wood on a gun. I like a gun that does what I need it to do. I love a gun that does that and looks nice too. Aesthetically, I'm not a big fan of black guns. Functionally, they certainly have their place. As I said, I like wood on a gun, and that's just me. My preference. For looks the Henrys really figured it out to my eye. Handsome rifles and from what I've seen of every Henry I have handled, very well made.

FlSwampRat said:

Nice gun, but that's from a guy who has a major love for the lever rifles. Yeah, I watched 50's and 60's cowboy movies and TV Shows (Wire Paladin, San Francisco). I'm old.
That said, everyone has their likes and dislikes and reasons for each. Different guns and calibers are good for different things. Personally, I like wood on a gun. I like a gun that does what I need it to do. I love a gun that does that and looks nice too. Aesthetically, I'm not a big fan of black guns. Functionally, they certainly have their place. As I said, I like wood on a gun, and that's just me. My preference. For looks the Henrys really figured it out to my eye. Handsome rifles and from what I've seen of every Henry I have handled, very well made.

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I'm getting old too and I watched all the same old westerns. I'm working my way through the Gunsmoke radio shows on You-Tube right now.
I'm slowing down and shooting endless amounts of ammo from autoloaders is no longer appealing.
What appeals to me now is blued steel, brass, and walnut.
Cap & ball revolvers, SAA replicas, muzzleloaders, and the like.
Guns with an Old west flair that I can take out and shoot at my own pace, and hang on the wall and admire the rest of the time.
This Henry in .38-55 fits in to this category.
Traditional Marlin lever actions, Ruger single action revolvers, and a couple of .22 rifles make up my other guns.

Old Stumpy said:

I'm getting old too and I watched all the same old westerns. I'm working my way through the Gunsmoke radio shows on You-Tube right now.
I'm slowing down and shooting endless amounts of ammo from autoloaders is no longer appealing.
What appeals to me now is blued steel, brass, and walnut.
Cap & ball revolvers, SAA replicas, muzzleloaders, and the like.
Guns with an Old west flair that I can take out and shoot at my own pace, and hang on the wall and admire the rest of the time.
This Henry in .38-55 fits in to this category.
Traditional Marlin lever actions, Ruger single action revolvers, and a couple of .22 rifles make up my other guns.

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I've loved my muzzleloaders since buying my first at the ripe old age of 24. Had a Ruger cap and ball that took the same .440 balls as my Seneca and a nifty blued steel Single-Six with some nice (not cheesy) fake ivory grips that some orc took with him one afternoon when we weren't home.
My Marlin 1894 is a .44 and my Rossi lever rifle is a .357.

"My main skills are talking and cooking biscuits, and getting drunk on the porch."
- Augustus McCrae

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If you got room on that porch for another rocker, I got a jug of sourmash......

FlSwampRat said:

My Marlin 1894 is a .44 and my Rossi lever rifle is a .357.

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I just bought a Marlin Cowboy in .45 Colt and an 1894 in .44 Magnum. Remington has indeed gotten better.
The .44 magnum is made with a .4315 bore, which is not uncommon for Marlins. (I slugged it.)
But JSP and JHP bullets are .430" which does not help accuracy.
I fired it a few days ago with 240 grain Hornaday JHP bullets and 18.5 grains of 2400. Surprisingly stout recoil !
Accuracy will need .433 bullets though, so I guess that I will buy a mold from Accurate and hard cast.
Same goes for the Cowboy with a .452" bore. Most off the shelf bullets are .452" hard cast. I need .454".

Will Henry do it on their .22? I'm all over that!

sparkyv said:

Will Henry do it on their .22? I'm all over that!

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Are 22 rounds sturdy enough to go through a loading gate?

Old Stumpy said:

I just bought a Marlin Cowboy in .45 Colt and an 1894 in .44 Magnum. Remington has indeed gotten better.
The .44 magnum is made with a .4315 bore, which is not uncommon for Marlins. (I slugged it.)
But JSP and JHP bullets are .430" which does not help accuracy.
I fired it a few days ago with 240 grain Hornaday JHP bullets and 18.5 grains of 2400. Surprisingly stout recoil !
Accuracy will need .433 bullets though, so I guess that I will buy a mold from Accurate and hard cast.
Same goes for the Cowboy with a .452" bore. Most off the shelf bullets are .452" hard cast. I need .454".

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I recently purchased an 1894 in 357 and am happy with it, so hopefully Remington is back to putting quality in their guns.

I wouldn't mind a getting a side loading Henry in 44 mag someday. The brass model's weight would absorb some of that recoil

Even original 1873 Winchesters in .22 didn't come with a side load gate.

BlueHeelerFl said:

Are 22 rounds sturdy enough to go through a loading gate?

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Apparently not.

When they make a steel-framed 16" carbine in the pistol calibers (.357/.44/.45), I think they will have found their niche.

why have two loading systems on one rifle, redundant to me. love it or hate it makes me no difference, buy what you want. I do. I,m sure no one has ever lost a tube or had one come loose and have the rifle not feed.

I have the tube fed in 45 Colt. As a plinker I like the tube better,easier to load on the hands. For defense in the woods,well I have other levers that load from the side to "top off". But in reality I almost never take a lever in the the woods as a "defense gun".Also IMHO if you need a load gate to top of while deer hunting,well a little more practice is in order.Almost every deer I have shot with a rifle have been one shot,never emptied a lever gun on a deer.

Already have my .45 Colt lever gun covered so a .357 version could possibly interest me.

may be a single shot would fit your needs better.