My dang rugers keep breaking

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Jeb Stuart



I'm with you on this one Jeb! The SR9c is a well designed and built compact 9mm. At the time I bought mine I compared it to similar size guns from Glock, Springfield Armory, and S&W and found that for me the SR9c was a great value and the best buy for the money.

And I would definitely go choose it over the Security 9 Compact as well!

When I found out they discontinued the SR9, was the time I finally saw the writing on the wall and made a decision that things were going a different way with Ruger and time to just move on.
I think the Bean counters found out there was another way to make money with budget guns. Sadly I think as far as business goes, they may be right. I do wish Ruger luck. I enjoyed the ride.
 
I have limited experience with Rugers. My son has a LC9sPro that he carries daily. His sweat will rust anything he touches so we had the blued slide coated—end of that problem. My (purchased used) SBH .44mag broke a firing pin. Ruger fixed it for free, but I did have to pay shipping back because it was used (20+ years old). I can’t complain about that at all!

I think Ruger quality is still pretty good and they have great CS.
 
I think the discontinued SR9 that is still selling is one of the best deals going. A really nice gun that can be picked up for around $300.00. I think mine will out live me. Recently bought more mags especially the 17 rd mags that make this like a full size gun.

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I have had a couple issues with my Rugers. A 1972 Single Six I bought new and was fired so much it became out of time and was spiting lead out of the cylinder gap unless cocked smartly. Called Ruger and they took it back for safety ck. Three weeks later it was home in perfect time, forcing cone cleaned or re cut with the blueing touched up. NO CHARGE!!!. A 1981 Ruger 77MK11 in .308 Win that woulden't group better than 2 1/2 inches on a good day with any load I tried, 5 different bullets and 3 different powders. Called Ruger and they took the rifle back for testing. They called a week later and said they were going to re barrel the rifle.In about a month I had the rifle back with a new barrel. After break in the rifle will group 1/14 inch or better with a couple of my loads. AGAIN NO CHARGE. I own 6 Rugers hdbiker
 
I have to agree that I smell a troll or two here as well. Some folks just have a bone to pick and will take every opportunity to pick it. Some just like to complain.

To the OP, the front sight is silver soldered, not glued. Sometimes (rarely) it's a bad solder job and it comes off. Send it to Ruger, they will fix it lickety splickety.

Personally, I've bought 32 Rugers in the last five years and none of them were "junk". Not one of them made me wish they "made them like they used to". I've had to send back exactly one Ruger, which was a New Bearcat 10yrs ago that Ruger replaced with a new one.

Ruger discontinues what doesn't sell. If they discontinued the SR9/40/45, it's because they did not sell. So while you may think they're the bees knees, not enough people agreed with you to keep it in the catalog. The idea that Ruger is "going budget" is nonsensical. Ruger has expanded their offerings into budget friendly territory. No higher priced guns have been displaced by cheaper guns. That said, Ruger's "budget" guns are better than the competition's budget guns. I wouldn't be trusting my life to the LC9 every day if I believed otherwise. The American pistol is excellent and priced comparable to other polymer framed service autos. I got two from CDNN for $300 so it's hard to argue with that. The American Rifle is another fantastic "budget" gun from Ruger.


I haven't had any Ruger pistol issues in 30+ years.

Since that was the last investment cast Ruger JUNK that I have touched.

Purchase a Freedom Arms 83's &/or 97's & you'll give the Ruger schit away!!
Ruger casts the frames for FA. I guess you chose to ignore that fact when it was pointed out. Sorry troll but I don't think folks would be building multi-thousand dollar customs out of "junk".

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When I found out they discontinued the SR9, was the time I finally saw the writing on the wall and made a decision that things were going a different way with Ruger and time to just move on.
I think the Bean counters found out there was another way to make money with budget guns. Sadly I think as far as business goes, they may be right. I do wish Ruger luck. I enjoyed the ride.
When I say the Security 9 is "better" than the SR9, I'm saying its size and features are better and make it a better gun for more people, which is what will make it more popular over time. It is cheaper than the SR pistols were by about $100, but IIRC the Security 9's don't have the mag disconnect and other safety features that plagued the SR's.

Also, I heard from DPris (God rest his soul) was that the SR pistols are not dropped, they're just not currently in production and they may come back. I guess that depends on how well the other doublestack pistols Ruger is making now sell.

In regards to how the SR's were selling, I can tell from the lack of topics I read on the American pistols that the SR pistols sold better than the American did and probably still does. All the talk about how much better of a pistol is irrelevant, the SR was more popular, was more established. There's no reason to trade up if yours is working fine.
 
Shooter 1: "The thingamajig on my Taurus broke."
Everyone: "Yeah, but Tauruses are crap, everyone knows that."

Shooter 2: "The thingamajig on my Ruger broke."
Everyone: "Well, everyone builds a lemon now and then!"
 
The modern business model demands that products make it to the market ASAP from the factory. QA/QC is not very good for many firearms these days, regardless of price range. Customer service is what can differentiate among different companies now.

It’s also worth noting that there is a difference between a flawed design and a QC issue. A flawed design would mean that a certain part or function fails even when assembled correctly. QC issues are adjustments or correcting assembly issues.
 
Looked at a Security 9 yesterday and was impressed. Especially for its very modest $319 price tag. Almost bought it, may yet.

Taurus has a long history of building sub-par guns. They also have a long history of very poor customer service. Ruger has neither. What Ruger is guilty of is building them and getting them out the door too quickly. Bottom line, everybody wants something to complain about. The last few years have seen a HUGE surge in gun sales and the manufacturers have done what they could to keep up with demand. I recall a lot of whining when Ruger would announce a new gun that wouldn't be available for several months. Those days are gone. Replaced by a different kind of whining by folks who seemingly do not know how to inspect a firearm prior to purchase.
 
I'm done with Ruger's .327's, I had thought about getting the LCR in .327, but saw how good the 9mm is in the LCR and the price for 9mm LCRx revolvers is nearly $80 less than the .327 LCR/LCRx's are selling for and I expect the popularity of the 9mm LCR's will drive the prices lower over time as more people buy them. Not to mention finding a used 9mm LCR will be easier, as will selling one.

More than a few of us opt for the .327 Federal Magnum to have the 20% more ammunition capacity advantage. Might not mean anything to most but means something for some. Too, being able to use almost all .32 caliber ammunition is a plus for some of us.
 
More than a few of us opt for the .327 Federal Magnum to have the 20% more ammunition capacity advantage. Might not mean anything to most but means something for some. Too, being able to use almost all .32 caliber ammunition is a plus for some of us.
20% is a fancy way of .327 fanboys to say it holds one more round. I understand that, I appreciate being able to have a true 6 shooter in a snub nose J frame size revolver.

I don't think anyone can go wrong buying either a 9mm or .327 LCR, I think they're both superior and more logical than the .357 LCR, but I took a step back from .327 after I got my SP101 and really thought about it vs 9mm. .327 in the SP101 can be stout, so in an LCR it'd be even more so and Idk if I'd really carry any .327 in it over .32 H&R Mag. I don't think I would, but the benefit of .327 over .32 H&R is you always have the extra power option.

Thing is you have power options in 9mm too. You can use light loads from Hornady, or the +P+ stuff or that new +M ammo we saw debuted at SHOT show earlier this year. That's all thanks to 9mm being the most popular centerfire cartridge in the world.

So, between the two the only loss I see going with 9mm over .327 is 5 rds vs 6 rds, but there are a lot of factors at play. One thing I do know is that with the 9mm LCR, I'm going to shoot that more than I am the .327 LCR, so I'll enjoy it more and become more proficient with it. The likelihood of me having to use either for defense is very low, having to shoot it more than 5 times even lower.

I've reached a point where I'm tired of paying $100 or more for some feature of a gun that's mostly just a talking point.
 
I don't need any more revolvers so I can't say whether I would or wouldn't continue with Ruger. All in all I've at least 7 or 8 Ruger revolvers pass through my collection. Some new, some used, some no longer made. Without a doubt the best handling and triggers came from the Security Six models. My old low back blue 2 3/4" SS is a safe queen. Beautiful gun with a delightful action. I can't warm up to the SP101. One of them is smooth enough but the action is too heavy (and it was defective from the factory with rust binding the lockwork) and the other DAO model simply felt junky. Way too much play in the hammer and trigger. Somehow I keep going back to the idea of customized 9mm sp101 for ccw, but I know it would be a huge investment and not be a realistic improvement over my LCR. My 6" SS was sold when once I traded into an 80's production 6" tapered lug GP100 and it feels tight with a nice trigger and very little play in the trigger or hammer, but my newer 3" gp100 has all the slop that seems to count for normal these days. Trigger and hammer shims weren't much of an improvement and I didn't want to mess with new springs so it really doesn't come out very often. The 70's production .45 colt Blackhawk appears to be excellent in all ways but has never been fired yet by me. We also bought a new pair of LCR and they both functioned great but mine had an out of spec barrel gap that was twice as wide as the other gun so I asked Ruger to inspect it, and they took care of it without question. It wouldn't have been any use asking them to "fix" my complaints with the other guns so unless I was buying the perfect gun in my hands right now I would expect a new Ruger to become a small project or good gun with minor quibbles. As much as I love old Smith's the new ones make me gag a little bit, so with very few exceptions, it's probably Ruger and others from here out.
 
Looked at a Security 9 yesterday and was impressed. Especially for its very modest $319 price tag. Almost bought it, may yet.

Taurus has a long history of building sub-par guns. They also have a long history of very poor customer service. Ruger has neither. What Ruger is guilty of is building them and getting them out the door too quickly. Bottom line, everybody wants something to complain about. The last few years have seen a HUGE surge in gun sales and the manufacturers have done what they could to keep up with demand. I recall a lot of whining when Ruger would announce a new gun that wouldn't be available for several months. Those days are gone. Replaced by a different kind of whining by folks who seemingly do not know how to inspect a firearm prior to purchase.
I buy online so I get what I get. In the future I'm still going to buy Ruger but as an earlier poster mentioned Taurus goes through the mud while Ruger comes put like a rose and that's not necessarily accurate and I just wanted to share my personal experiences since they contravert the conventional wisdom.
 
I've sent back 1 Ruger, took 1 to a gunsmith and had to tear apart the other. My Ruger Vaquero that I got from my dad got sent back after it wouldn't hit a paper plate at 15 yards. Came back ok. Then the hammer plunger broke so off it went again. This time I had to pay for shipping because it was over 2 years old.

Ruger 1911,the grip bushing came loose. Easy fix for gunsmith as he just restaked it but shouldn't have come out to begin with

My wife's 7 shot GP100 locked up. Took it almost all the way apart and found some metal chunks inside. Removed the metal, and blew it out and it seems to be working now. Also the crown is jacked, but I don't really feel like sending another gun in.
 

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I buy online so I get what I get. In the future I'm still going to buy Ruger but as an earlier poster mentioned Taurus goes through the mud while Ruger comes put like a rose and that's not necessarily accurate and I just wanted to share my personal experiences since they contravert the conventional wisdom.
I buy online too because most of the FFL's in my area don't stock the revolvers I want, so they have to order them from distributors, most of the time are not in stock. Last time I had an FFL order a gun for me it took a month to get in and it cost 20% more than had I bought it online.

I think the main reason Ruger gets a pass when issues are found is their customer service. If Taurus had Ruger customer service, people would be singing a different tune.
 
OP, that would be frustrating to have two guns with issues at the same time. Mass producing the numbers of firearms( or anything else) in the time frame the bean counters expect, IMO, is the reason some guns go back. I've sent back an SP101 2.25" for a trigger problem right out of the box and a GP100 357. Both were quickly repaired at no cost to me. I've also had some burrs to remove and finishes to clean up. I believe with rare exception that the design and build of the Ruger revolvers is very good but some need cleaning up/smoothing up which I don't mind doing(yeah, I know I shouldn't have to). I've learned a little by doing the work too.
 
I think the discontinued SR9 that is still selling is one of the best deals going. A really nice gun that can be picked up for around $300.00. I think mine will out live me. Recently bought more mags especially the 17 rd mags that make this like a full size gun.

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The predecessor was also very capable gun. I looked at P345 in top scape. I didn't buy it only because it does not accept 1911 magazines. When it comes to handguns the problem with Strum & Ruger is they constantly upgrade their line with uglier and cheaper to make offerings.
 
4 of my 6 handguns are rugers......bought my first ruger 5 years ago, no problems to date. To quote one thread entry years ago regarding a gp100...

Great guns, if you cant hit what youre aiming at, you can always use the gun to beat it to death.
 
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