tried something new today in my new marlin model 60 has anyone tried this in their model 60 marlin

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so guys I took my marlin model 60 out to the range and so as I was leaving I thought hmm I wonder if 22 longs by cci would work or be a bust? well to my surprise shooting various things I was hitting very well with these plus they cycled the bolt just fine no malfunctions!! so has anyone else on here tried using the cci 22 longs 29gr bullet in their marlin model 60 rifle? like I said these shot very well plus no malfunctions as they cycled the bolt no issues! and yes I know it says in the manual 22lr only but I thought what the heck try and few and wow what a find!
 
They’ll work but finding a consistent supply and the additional expense makes them less practical that standard velocity .22lr Now not every auto loader will cycle SV but if you’re not seeing failures with Longs then CCI SV is some fair quality ammo that shoots well for many. Enjoy that new rifle!
 
I've never found a reason to shoot .22 longs, even in guns that specifically state they can be used. They are less powerful, yet considerably more expensive and uncommon than .22LR. Other than guns chambered ONLY for the round, I honestly can't see why its still manufactured, when I bet .22LR outsells it 5000 to 1, being optimistic :)
 
Just a heads up, make sure to listen carefully for any sounds of a squib, it can can really mess up your day and your rifle.
 
Just a heads up, make sure to listen carefully for any sounds of a squib, it can can really mess up your day and your rifle.
Thats a good point. Ive never seen a squib in a regular length .22 but slow ammo in the longer barrels (my first M60 was 22"s) might be a problem.
 
I have used the CB22 long rounds in my Marlin 60 and 75C. They don't cycle the action and you now have a straight bolt 22 rifle. They are fun. But be careful and don't ever use the Aguila Colibri's. They are for handguns only. They WILL stick in a rifle barrel and you may put a ring in your barrel. I know that for a fact because I did it in a 24" barreled 22 rifle. Besides they come out of a rifle barrel so slow I think I could shoot them from a slingshot at higher speed. And they bounce off of squirrels.

I have never seen 22 Longs on the shelf before so have never tried them. The 29gr bullet really needs a slower twist like something around 1/20 IIRC.
 
Longs, no. Shorts yes. I had a groundhog problem a few years ago. Problem solved. Started with an old single, but ended up with the 60 at that house in town and up popped a gopher...so... yep. Shorts will cycle the action on that rifle, but not the other 3 model 60 variants around the house. Just had to aim 3” high at 30 yards.
 
One year when the tree rats were very thick and my fig tree would loose fruit just before they were rip enough to pick I went to war on the Squirrels with CB longs in a little Anshutz and a Savage 67 Click Clack....squirrels lost.

From behind the gun the CB Longs in those longer barrels really did seem less bothersome than the sound of my FWB124 air rifle and the Squirrels when hit where down better.

BTW the Click clack cycled most of the time even with the CB Longs

-kBob
 
Thay's kind of like when I shot a box of .22 WRF through my Hi-Standard derringer because that's all I could find for ammo when I went looking for .22 WMR. An expensive substitute that there is no reason to use.
 
I suspect that a Model 60 that functions with .22 Long high velocity (1180 fps) has a very smooth action and probably a weakened recoil spring.

The only .22 Longs I encounter in stores these days are the CCI .22 Long CBs which are loaded to 720 fps for quiet target practice.
Those do function in my Marlin 60 and Remington 66 -- as straight pull bolt action, not as semi-auto. So quiet you can hear the firing pin strike louder than the muzzle report and clearly hear the impact on an aluminum can.

I have run across ads for ".22 Long HP" but close exam shows it's actually .22 Long Rifle Hollow-Point 36gr bullet ammo (the photo of the box shows clearly ".22 Long Rifle". Gun ads ought to be written by people who know guns.


Originally, .22 Short was followed by .22 Long (same 29 or 30 grain solid bullet, but more powder), followed by .22 Extra Long with an even longer case with more powder and 40 grain bullet. Then some genius mated the .22 Long case with the 40 grain Extra Long bullet and viola! dubbed the result the .22 Long Rifle which somehow hit a magic balance of bullet weight to powder capacity for target shooting accuracy and good effect on small game for hunting. Back in the 1950's there was a price difference between .22 short, long,and long rifle. Also along the way the .22 Long commonly began to be loaded with the same bullet and powder charge as the .22 Short High Velocity. In the long run, the mass production of .22 Long Rifle worldwide made the difference in price go away and .22 LR Only made more and more sense.There are some very fine .22 Short only target guns, but .22 Long is mainly produced for the very few .22 Long firearms still in use.
 
Back in the 1950's there was a price difference between .22 short, long,and long rifle.

Thinking back to the 60s, it was of course a different world. And the 50s as well. Back then nobody thought much about 13 year old kids having care and custody of .22 rifles and riding off on their bikes to shoot at ground squirrels in farmer's fields and at tin cans in gravel pits and wooded areas. Nobody worried about it in the slightest. In fact, my brother used to take his .22 rifle to High School to shoot in the .22 range in the basement. He just kept his rifle in his locker. Most of the high schools built in my city in the 50s seemed to have indoor 20 yard small-bore ranges and school-owned .22 target rifles, and shooting was a popular sports elective for students well into the 70s.

I don't recall any kids owning semi-auto .22 rifles back then. I'm sure that they did, but I never saw any. In general kids got the rifles that their fathers bought them for Christmas or their birthday, or the ones that they owned as kids then and passed down to them. The bought guns always seemed to be bolt action or pump tube repeaters, which were popular. The most popular passed down rifles were nearly always tube-fed pumps.
Adults had the really nice .22s with the rim-fire scopes. Kids had to make do with the stamped open sights that the rifles came with.

Which is why in my opinion that .22 shorts and longs were so popular. They were indeed cheaper for a kid to buy than the long rifles, and they all worked equally well in those tube fed repeaters. Kids had less money to spend back then, and what do you need to kill a tin can or a ground squirrel at 20 yards?
 
I suspect that a Model 60 that functions with .22 Long high velocity (1180 fps) has a very smooth action and probably a weakened recoil spring.

The only .22 Longs I encounter in stores these days are the CCI .22 Long CBs which are loaded to 720 fps for quiet target practice.
Those do function in my Marlin 60 and Remington 66 -- as straight pull bolt action, not as semi-auto. So quiet you can hear the firing pin strike louder than the muzzle report and clearly hear the impact on an aluminum can.

I have run across ads for ".22 Long HP" but close exam shows it's actually .22 Long Rifle Hollow-Point 36gr bullet ammo (the photo of the box shows clearly ".22 Long Rifle". Gun ads ought to be written by people who know guns.


Originally, .22 Short was followed by .22 Long (same 29 or 30 grain solid bullet, but more powder), followed by .22 Extra Long with an even longer case with more powder and 40 grain bullet. Then some genius mated the .22 Long case with the 40 grain Extra Long bullet and viola! dubbed the result the .22 Long Rifle which somehow hit a magic balance of bullet weight to powder capacity for target shooting accuracy and good effect on small game for hunting. Back in the 1950's there was a price difference between .22 short, long,and long rifle. Also along the way the .22 Long commonly began to be loaded with the same bullet and powder charge as the .22 Short High Velocity. In the long run, the mass production of .22 Long Rifle worldwide made the difference in price go away and .22 LR Only made more and more sense.There are some very fine .22 Short only target guns, but .22 Long is mainly produced for the very few .22 Long firearms still in use.
well I hate to bust your bubble but this is a bran new gun recently purchased and trust me when I say this but the bolt spring is very strong no weak springs here! plus heres the link to the ammo I was shooting,http://www.sgogunsandammo.com/product-p/0029.htm check this out and the velocity and weight of bullet! I figure these wouldn't do as much damage on a squirrel as the LR do when they hit!
 
CCI 0029 22 LONG CPRN 100 RND BOX
CCI .22 Long, 29 grain copper plated round nose bullet, High-Velocity 1215 feet per second.
That sounds powerful enough to function a Model 60 that will function with Standard Velocity .22 Long Rifle (40 gr bullet at 1080 fps). And it should kill a squirrel with less damage to the meat than High Velocity Hollowpoint Long Rifle.

I am sure it was a pleasant surprise for you that it did work well. Locally I am used to finding .22 Long rarely and higher priced if new.
 
CCI 0029 22 LONG CPRN 100 RND BOX
CCI .22 Long, 29 grain copper plated round nose bullet, High-Velocity 1215 feet per second.
That sounds powerful enough to function a Model 60 that will function with Standard Velocity .22 Long Rifle (40 gr bullet at 1080 fps). And it should kill a squirrel with less damage to the meat than High Velocity Hollowpoint Long Rifle.

I am sure it was a pleasant surprise for you that it did work well. Locally I am used to finding .22 Long rarely and higher priced if new.
yep it did I was like wow! why didn't they post it in the manual for others to try but I guess they did it this way to keep it simple 22lr only lol! :)
 
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