Now I've seen everything... Krag pistol

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We need Barrett to start making pistols and sub guns. Could be very interesting.

Totally impractical and wasteful, but hilarious.
 
Varminterror,
Excellent, informative posts. I appreciated the screenshots; clearer and substantiated what you wrote.
 
Call me odd, but I want a 7600 Remington made into a pistol.
Unless you get a Rem 7600 that has never been assembled as a rifle it can never be a "pistol".


For deer hunting.
Explicitly states SBR is not legal for deer here.
But a WMFaR is not an SBR :)
Well, you didn't read anything in the ATF definition of "SBR" above did you? "A weapon made from a rifle" falls within the definition of SBR.
If you want to make an NFA firearm from your Remington 7600 rifle, (cut the barrel to less than 16" or the OAL to less than 26") you discover that the ATF eForms (the fastest way to get your tax stamp) DOES NOT show a category of NFA tax stamps for WMFAR......because that is included in the SBR definition.

Still cost 200 bucks to the Feds and wait before build.....but how freakin' cool.
Free floated bbl, pump action, mag fed..........am thinking .243.
Cool, yes, but good luck explaining how your new NFA firearm isn't an SBR.
 
I think its a cool looking gun. But like Bannockburn I would just rather have the rifle. Original or sporterized. Wouldn't make me any difference.:thumbup:

And I wish the mods could crop all the legal BS and move it to the "Legal" forum.:thumbdown:

Does anyone else think the sawed of Krag looks like something Michael Tinker Pearce got a hold of?
 
Could the fact that the Krag is an antique have anything to do with the conversion? It be like cutting down a percussion rifle.
It could have been an antique (and therefore, a "non-gun") in its original rifle configuration. However, in its cut-down NFA configuration, a different definition of "antique" would apply. A pre-1899 cartridge gun is not an antique for NFA purposes unless its ammunition is not available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade. All those pre-1899 Colt Potato Diggers, Maxims, etc. are Title II firearms if they fire commonly-available ammunition.
 
I did not know that ! Soooo, cut down antique cartridge shotguns before 1899 are NFA ? How about my 14" barrel 10 guage percussion SxS ?
 
That thing is awesome. I recently watched a rolling block pistol sell at auction and I was drooling like a 15 year old kid watching baywatch. This one is soooo much nicer.
 
Soooo, cut down antique cartridge shotguns before 1899 are NFA ?
A cartridge shotgun with a barrel shorter than 18" is NFA regardless of when made, provided its ammunition is currently available. If it was made before 1899 and the barrel(s) are 18" or longer, it's an antique.
How about my 14" barrel 10 guage percussion SxS ?
A percussion muzzleloader would be an antique regardless of barrel length and regardless of when made. It could have been made yesterday.
 
Thanks for straightening me out about pre 1899 cartridge guns, I thought they were not considered firearms as far as modifications ect..
 
always possible this thing was demilled when it left the military and put back together "as a pistol".
 
Here’s a question I’m not sure I know the answer to.

Suppose that the Krag pistol in question was chopped down to pistol form prior to the NFA laws being enacted. I suppose it to be legal to own, but transfer would be the question there as it still is a WMFAR although the rifle itself is an antique.

Yes legal tailchasing due to impractical laws based on knee jerk emotion and bad data... but legality hangs in the balance long with felony charges and prison terms.
 
Suppose that the Krag pistol in question was chopped down to pistol form prior to the NFA laws being enacted. I suppose it to be legal to own, but transfer would be the question there as it still is a WMFAR although the rifle itself is an antique.
There was an amnesty in 1934 during which pre-existing NFA items were supposed to be registered. If they were not, then they became contraband. Not legal to own, and not transferable, unless a special ATF determination is made removing them from the purview of the NFA because of their rarity, historical significance, etc.

As to whether an item is an antique, you have to go by the NFA definition of an antique and not the Title I definition. Cartridge guns that fire commonly-available ammo are not antiques for NFA purposes, regardless of when actually made.
 
Reading this thread got me wondering. If someone bought a new barreled action, cut the barrel down and made a pistol stock for it, would that be NFA as it was never assembled as a complete rifle.
 
Who knows the gunsmith that made the Krag into a pistol? Anyone?
I think that maybe the builder has an SOT and builds NFA items.
 
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