Which would you deer hunt with

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I don’t know much about the AR platform is it bolt action or semi auto I mean I know AR’s are mostly semi auto but is there a bolt action in a AR platform?

There are some true bolt-guns that use AR lower parts.
There are some gas systems that can be turned "off" preventing the AR semi-auto system from functioning. Technically this is then a manual "bolt" system when done that way. More for the heavily suppressed rifles.

LD
 
And this is the bigger difference, moving longer bullets downrange more efficiently and with less recoil than a .308 is the reason the 6.5 is enjoying the spotlight.
Really? :scrutiny:

I should think if that were the case then the 6.5 Swedish Mauser, a contemporary of the .30-06 cartridge, would've "taken off" a long time ago...all of the advantages of the 6.5 bullet over .30 caliber bullets being present then, and the lower recoil as well.

I think that it's the 6.5 bullet being launched from an AR platform, Whether it's from an AR-10 or AR-15, is why the new cartridges in 6.5 are suddenly "the rage". ;)

LD
 
Really? :scrutiny:

I should think if that were the case then the 6.5 Swedish Mauser, a contemporary of the .30-06 cartridge, would've "taken off" a long time ago...all of the advantages of the 6.5 bullet over .30 caliber bullets being present then, and the lower recoil as well.

I think that it's the 6.5 bullet being launched from an AR platform, Whether it's from an AR-10 or AR-15, is why the new cartridges in 6.5 are suddenly "the rage". ;)

LD
I agree the platform helps, but there's an altogether different mentality in shooters today than there was in a not so distant past, magnumitis and bigger is better and anything other than a .27 or .30 is unamerican is slowly eroding away. Bullet and propellant technology has improved some, but a greater understanding of what's needed to reach the farther distances has led to marketing of longer bullets and barrels twisted to support them, something that has taken Americans longer to embrace in general is the idea that a long skinny bullet can be as effective as a wide fat bullet. The swedes had the right idea long before the creed came onto the scene, but generations believed (and some still do) that if the .30-30 won't do the job you must jump to the -06 or win mag to get it done. This is much less prevalent thanks to marketing today. Do the .30s still enjoy their own fan club? Absolutely, but they are not likely what my grandkids will be using in their time.
 
For deer. I'll take the biggest bullet my rifle will stabilize. I don't want them running to far here in the south.

I'd go 6.5 over the 243.
 
Exactly,
And For a lot of hunters that "long range" starts just past 300 yards, and by far for most is at 500 yards.
Remember folks the 6.5 Creedmoor is very popular for long rang shots at enemy soldiers at ever farther distances, while using an AR platform.

LD
Some of the zero targets I've seen at the range makes me think 100 yards is pushing it for some hunters. Which may have something to do with the fact that most deer are killed at 100 yards and closer.
 
I think that it's the 6.5 bullet being launched from an AR platform, Whether it's from an AR-10 or AR-15, is why the new cartridges in 6.5 are suddenly "the rage". ;)

You’d be wrong. As the majority of major manufacturers have been noting their sales of new BOLT ACTION models in 6.5 creed, with AR-10/LFAR platform sales being little more than a footnote.
 
As the majority of major manufacturers have been noting their sales of new BOLT ACTION models in 6.5 creed, with AR-10/LFAR platform sales being little more than a footnote.
If your sample is only the "major manufacturers"..., you might have a bad sample. Lots of smaller barrel companies making AR platform barrels are cutting into the sales of the "major manufacturers". ;) It's not limited to 6.5 creedmoor. Grendel is out there too.

LD
 
For me, the 243win. If you can’t kill a deer with a 243win, wounding it with a 6.5 creed won’t make it any more dead.
For me, I make HUNTING gun/ammo buy decisions on what I think will be most readily available in whatever area I might visit. That includes whatever other hunters might likely have on them in a hunting camp situation. So I'd pick .243 on that basis alone.
 
Some of the zero targets I've seen at the range makes me think 100 yards is pushing it for some hunters. Which may have something to do with the fact that most deer are killed at 100 yards and closer.
I know a few of of those guys, one shoots a .270 the other a 300 lol
 
I'd hunt with the 243, sell the 6.5 and kick myself for ever buying it.


Well, I'm always cautious about trendy new stuff. I didn't even get an AR until a few years ago. But, I really didn't get it with hunting in mind. :D I do enjoy shooting that thing, though. More'n one reason to own a rifle, plain ol' fun is a good reason. :D I think lots of guys must be having fun at 1000 yard ranges with the 6.5 Creedmore. And, it's also a decent hunting round, I'm sure. But, I don't need it for hunting. My .308 and 7 mag ain't broke and I still have the good old .257 Bob that's killed a LOT of deer over the last 60 years since my grandpa bought it. :D

Some folks just seem to chase the latest and greatest and most up to datest. Some just want bragging rights at their gun club meeting. There's all sorts of reasons to own something new. It ain't always about hunting. But, of course, if you chat on this board, that's the primary reason for anything that shoots, at least for you. :D I doubt I have enough time left to mess with anything that new. I'm pretty well set in what I own and shoot. I get to wanting a new gun occasionally just because I WANT. :rofl: But, when I sit down and think about it, I have to ask myself, "why"?

For those that have a need for the Creedmore, knock yourself out. Just because I don't see the need, don't mean YOU don't HAVE the need, or at least the want. :D

I don't wanna get into politics, but if you want it, better get it before it's illegal. I've only seen snipits of that debate, but I'm still miffed over what I DID see.:cuss:
 
The only experience I have at ringing long range steel other than IHMSA (handguns) is there was a guy I was a guest of at Greenwood Gun Club in Brazoria, Texas. They have a 1000 yard silhouette range there. He didn't do a bad job at 1000 yards with his 7mm Rem Mag. I didn't have much other than my .257 Roberts at the time, so I just watched. It was the first time I'd ever even seen anyone shoot at 1000 yards. It was impressive. That was 40 years ago.
 
For me, I make HUNTING gun/ammo buy decisions on what I think will be most readily available in whatever area I might visit. That includes whatever other hunters might likely have on them in a hunting camp situation. So I'd pick .243 on that basis alone.

Better check shelves before you decide based on availability alone. 6.5’s out pacing the 243win these days.
 
I have taken deer with a .243 using 100 grain Nosler Partitions and they were just as dead as when i use the ‘06 and 165 gr. Hornadys. I’m thinking much would depend on the game I was likely to encounter.
 
Well I started out wit REM 760 in 30.06 used it for 30 years did good. got the notion to get a 7mm08. bought at TC Venture. got it to shoot near MOA with my reloads. 7mm08 was a big deal for a while, now the 6.5 creedmore is the rage. I'll stick with my 7mm08 and let the 6.5 fanboys have there go. who knows what the next caliber will be the rage. You know the arms and ammo companies got to sell guns and ammo!!

Bull
 
Well I started out wit REM 760 in 30.06 used it for 30 years did good. got the notion to get a 7mm08. bought at TC Venture. got it to shoot near MOA with my reloads. 7mm08 was a big deal for a while, now the 6.5 creedmore is the rage. I'll stick with my 7mm08 and let the 6.5 fanboys have there go. who knows what the next caliber will be the rage. You know the arms and ammo companies got to sell guns and ammo!!

Bull
You've uncovered their secret! The Freedom Group commandos are on their way to your house now.........:uhoh:
 
I've shot a deer or two in my hunting life. Started with a .243. Back in the 70s in England. People talked about the .243 not being adequate for fallow deer, strange that all the fallow i shot with the .243 seemed to end up very dead. I used to shoot a 105grn round nosed bullet in the .243.
I've been using a boring .308 since the 80s as practice ammo is a lot cheaper to make. Whilst other calibers may shoot a quarter inch flatter and a few fps faster or be called Creedmoor or Ackley, something or other my trusty .308 still seem to knock game over as will the 6.5x55 and several other antique and vintage rounds. 7x57, now there's another great hunting round that I've taken quite a few deer with. I shoot the 7x57R not the most potent round in the world but it works. I'm also having a bit of a love affair with the 8x57JRS another oldie that seem to handle larger game really well
 
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