I should clarify for Ohio, at least. In Ohio, you still have to fill out form 4473. They just don't have to call. On page 2 of form, they denote the CCL and I believe the assigned #. It gets kept on record the same 20 yr. span as one that gets called in.
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I'm reasonably confident that everywhere (in the United States) requires an FFL to get a 4473 filled out in order to transfer a firearm... in some places (including my state), the CCW obviates the need for the call/check. But the form still gets filled out, and you are still attesting to all of the answers to the potentially-disqualifying questions.
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Local Wal Mart hasn't even sold guns for a few years now. When buying ammo I have to produce my drivers license so they know who I am. In NY state any FFL that sells you a gun has to do all the standard 4473/ call/ check stuff regardless of CCW status, unlike some states.
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In Fla there are b/r checks on all sales through an ffl. Someone can get a cwp and it's good for years. They commit a felony, do their year in prison and get out, they could still conceivably have that cwp in their possession.
However, the state even requires a b/r check on credentialed LEO's for non-duty guns. That strikes me as either stupid or just a way of getting another $5 in fees from the buyer's pocket.
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Arkansas does as well.
It seems like LEOs and active duty military personell should get a pass on the background check.
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In SC we still have to fill out a form 4473 (though some FFLs have gone to an electronic version which is nice) if we are a concealed weapons permit holder, it just means the FFL doesn't have to call NICS to perform a background check. We are sort of instantly approved to purchase.
I can remember when Walmart was normal sized and sold handguns. The good old days.
I can remember when Walmart was normal sized and sold handguns. The good old days.
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Alabama passed a law where a CCW holder doesn't go through the NICS check when purchasing. Last 2 purchases, AR stripped lower and a 12ga, were done without a check at my local mom and pop gun shop. I would expect a big box store to play CYA as much as they can get away with and still run a check on every firearm regardless of what state law allows them to do.
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The last few times my wife and I have purchased guns at Cabela's/Bass Pro stores in Idaho, they actually photocopied our CCW licenses in addition to filling out page 2 of the form. I don't know how long they keep it on record - probably 20 years like you say.
Both my wife's and my Idaho "Standard" CCW Licenses are set to expire this year. We're probably going to just go ahead and take the class this summer in order to get our Idaho "Enhanced" CCW Licenses, even though Idaho went to a sort of "Constitutional Carry" in most places a few years back. The Idaho "Enhanced" CCW Licenses have the same benefit as the "Standard" versions (no phone-in background checks for gun purchases from an FFL dealer), but they also have reciprocity with a few more states than the "Standard" versions. And the "Enhanced" versions are good for concealed carry on Idaho's college and university campuses.
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Wow that is strange. As mentioned your name must be similar to someone else that gets flagged. I've never had a delay with the BG check and I've been buying since the mid 70s. But my last name is not common so theres probably not a lot to get checked. The dealer reads my info and gets a "proceed" immediately I hope I didn't jinx myself.
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Missouri NICS checks everyone, whether by phone or e-check.
Nebraska is another state where a concealed carry permit is a legal substitute for the NICS check. It depends on the thoroughness of the background check performed before issuing the permit. Having a permit makes gun ownership easier in general.
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That is standard in. Texas! I thought all states were doing it that way!
entropy
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Walmart does this because it is a lot simpler across a huge corporation if everybody is in the same page; it doesn't encroach on anybody's rights, (you can still buy the gun) and because they are a bit anal about the gun policies-far too many people view Walmart as a cash cow waiting there to be milked (Or bilked) for millions in lawsuits they know will be settled out of court.
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At least your WalMart continues to Sell guns and ammo. This stopped a few years ago at the store in Cordova TN after at least one AR-15 was stolen around 0100, via a rear door.
A second Wally, closer to us continues to sell ammo and guns etc.
A second Wally, closer to us continues to sell ammo and guns etc.
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It’s like that in every state. The 4473 is required for every dealer transfer in every state. It’s the NICS check that can be skipped depending on the state.
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That is how my local gun store does it. Photo copies the CCW and paper clips it to the inside of the 4473.
I had never gotten a delay before, but have started to be delayed recently. Most recent time was trying to get a Stevens 320 at Academy for a low budget HD shotgun.
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They were questioning your taste, herrwalther. Kinda like the credit card companies when they call and say, "Did you buy $200 dollars worth of fritos at 7-11 a 3 AM?" 
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They were questioning your taste, herrwalther. Kinda like the credit card companies when they call and say, "Did you buy $200 dollars worth of fritos at 7-11 a 3 AM?"
I HIGHLY doubt that. There aren't any 7-11s around me.
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I wonder if the policy doesn't come down to being consistent within the whole Wal-Mart corporation and the idea of if a clerk needs to take the time to confirm a CCW is still valid, why not just initiate the UBC and get paid for it.
In Wisconsin we are under two types of BGCs. Buy a long gun and it's a Federal check and generally costs you nuttin' above and beyond the sale price of the gun. Buy a handgun and you must go thru a more complex State BGC and it generally costs you $15 on top of the price of the gun. This goes for those of us with a valid CWC permit. Seems like one needs a BGC for almost anything anymore. I need a new one every year to ref youth hockey. I need one at work to work around kids. My wife requires one before she hires anyone new. Not a big deal.
In Wisconsin we are under two types of BGCs. Buy a long gun and it's a Federal check and generally costs you nuttin' above and beyond the sale price of the gun. Buy a handgun and you must go thru a more complex State BGC and it generally costs you $15 on top of the price of the gun. This goes for those of us with a valid CWC permit. Seems like one needs a BGC for almost anything anymore. I need a new one every year to ref youth hockey. I need one at work to work around kids. My wife requires one before she hires anyone new. Not a big deal.
I was carrying concealed when I was ‘escorted’ from Walmart with my new Ruger American.About 3 or 4 yrs ago I purchased a 17 and 22m from Walmart they had on clearance, I had to fill out form on their computer and wait for approval, then wait for a manager to walk me to the door like I was a criminal, They wouldn't sell me any ammo first I had to lock up the rifles then return to make any other purchases
Thinking back I should have open carried when I returned
Too funny.
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Was talking to a buddy about this last night and he said that since misdemeanor domestic violence is grounds for non approval it's just a good idea that some kind of b/r check be done to maybe prevent some hostile spouse from getting a gun to to take revenge for the arrest. Of course, there's no guarantee that something would be in the system fast enough to actual prevent a sale. Usually our b/r checks take a few minutes except for weekends when gun shows around the state add traffic to the system.
NICS checks are no charge, FDLE (Florida Dept. of Law Enforcement) charges. For the longest we could run pawns redeemed within the first 90 days of it being in store through NICS. Fla decided they were losing money, I guess, and now we have to run all of them through FDLE.
NICS checks are no charge, FDLE (Florida Dept. of Law Enforcement) charges. For the longest we could run pawns redeemed within the first 90 days of it being in store through NICS. Fla decided they were losing money, I guess, and now we have to run all of them through FDLE.
Same with Alabama
Edit: somehow the quote did not show up. I was referring what kcofohio said, to still need to fill out the forms except on page 2 they denote you have a CCW so no need for a background check. In reality, most FFL do it online so a background check takes merely seconds. It really doesn't save any time.
Edit: somehow the quote did not show up. I was referring what kcofohio said, to still need to fill out the forms except on page 2 they denote you have a CCW so no need for a background check. In reality, most FFL do it online so a background check takes merely seconds. It really doesn't save any time.
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