The Evangelist Cowboy
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A guy is trying to get me to buy or trade for an Uberti 1875 outlaw. I don't believe the sight is right can you more knowledgeable sixgunners give me any advice? the other is an Uberti cattleman I know is correct.
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The Remington you pictured looks to be a percussion 1858 Rem, not the 1875 cartridge model. As for the Cattleman, if by correct you are only referring to the front sight, OK. If you are referring to the whole gun the Colt model of 1873 was never offered with a brass back strap and trigger guard.
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Flatbush Harry
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The Remington shown looks like a conversion of the 1858 rather than the 1875. If the seller is representing it as an 1875, you may want to walk away.
Also, I did not see DaveT's response...he is correct.
Also, I did not see DaveT's response...he is correct.
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The Evangelist Cowboy
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I didn't even catch that. I'm glad I posted it here. I'm assuming cause it's a conversion I'm limited by the kind of .45 loads than using standard SAA loads? That blows.
1KPerDay
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If it's the factory "conversion" it will handle all saami loads like any other .45 Colt.
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1K has a good eye! It's a factory conversion. I had one through the shop a couple of months ago. Very nice revolver! He's also correct about the ammo. Of course the one I had in the shop left here with a coil spring action but then, all Remington's do.
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The Evangelist Cowboy
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Thanks all. I made a hard pass on the 1858 I don't need a .45 Colt that cannot be loaded hot, the rest of my loads are for my Redhawk and an OG vaquero. I am making a deal for the Uberti Cattleman (which is in .357) and 350 cash in exchange for the 686 I have.
ontarget
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Sorry if you read that before I edited it. I thought you were giving 350 plus a 686 for a cattleman. I thought maybe you fell and bumped your head. Upon rereading your post I see you are coming out pretty well.
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The Evangelist Cowboy
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The other guy wants it alot. He offered me both of those guns at first. But I can live with one and the rest cash. I want to put it towards a 629 I've had my eye on at the LGS for awhile.
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Remember to carry your Cattleman with only 5 beans in the wheel.
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The Evangelist Cowboy
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Of course. Though there is debate as to whether it's going to stay or go though, need a lever gun
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This is what a Remington Model 1875 looks like. This is an original Model 1875, but the modern replicas look very similar. The main difference is the modern replicas have a spring loaded transverse latch to release the cylinder pin similar to a Colt, the originals did not. Notice the loading lever of the 1858 model has been replaced by the triangular web under the barrel. The triangular web carries forward the shape and style of the 1858 triangular loading lever. Notice too the 1875 model has a front sight similar to a Colt. Notice too there is more space between the trigger guard and the grip frame than on a Colt. Regarding the front sight on the Model 1858 conversion in the OP's photo, they used to be much shorter, but 20 years ago or so the front sight was made taller because the guns tended to shoot high with the old short front sight.
This photo shows the method of releasing the cylinder pin on an original Model 1875. There is a small spring on the underside of the cylinder pin where it protrudes through the web. The spring is depressed with a fingernail in order to pull the cylinder pin forward.
The Remington Model 1890 cut the web under the barrel down to a different shape.
The method of retaining the cylinder pin in the Model 1890 was the same as with the Model 1875. The web on both was attached with one screw up front into the barrel, and a pin on the frame holding the web at the rear. The cut down shape of the Model 1890 reveals the frame mounted pin.
Regarding the brass trigger guard and back strap of the Uberti Cattleman, they look nice, but Colt never put a brass trigger guard or back strap on the Single Acton Army. Only steel.
This is what a Remington Model 1875 looks like. This is an original Model 1875, but the modern replicas look very similar. The main difference is the modern replicas have a spring loaded transverse latch to release the cylinder pin similar to a Colt, the originals did not. Notice the loading lever of the 1858 model has been replaced by the triangular web under the barrel. The triangular web carries forward the shape and style of the 1858 triangular loading lever. Notice too the 1875 model has a front sight similar to a Colt. Notice too there is more space between the trigger guard and the grip frame than on a Colt. Regarding the front sight on the Model 1858 conversion in the OP's photo, they used to be much shorter, but 20 years ago or so the front sight was made taller because the guns tended to shoot high with the old short front sight.
This photo shows the method of releasing the cylinder pin on an original Model 1875. There is a small spring on the underside of the cylinder pin where it protrudes through the web. The spring is depressed with a fingernail in order to pull the cylinder pin forward.
The Remington Model 1890 cut the web under the barrel down to a different shape.
The method of retaining the cylinder pin in the Model 1890 was the same as with the Model 1875. The web on both was attached with one screw up front into the barrel, and a pin on the frame holding the web at the rear. The cut down shape of the Model 1890 reveals the frame mounted pin.
Regarding the brass trigger guard and back strap of the Uberti Cattleman, they look nice, but Colt never put a brass trigger guard or back strap on the Single Acton Army. Only steel.
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