John Ross not delivering paid for JR500

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I sent that guy a PM too in case someone is on vacation and it is not raining like it has been here.
 
Suggestion: I opened CB forum. This has been a valuable resource for information on my projects. Looks like Mr. Ross has a history customer problems going back at least to 2012. I'd suggest opening CB and do a search for john-ross. Might do well to make a history.

I suggest stop screwing around and get connected with an agency that has some muscle. That's why you need information from the CB search plus you personal history. Don't write a novel. Need dates etc not rants. After looking briefly at CB posts etc. my feeling is guy's wiring has been pulled loose. Remember, you are dealing with governmental agencies whose purpose is to get you to go someplace else for help.

If you are dealing with a sociopath shaming them is urinating up a rope. This shaming issue will get cured with another generation of lies.
 
Suggestion: I opened CB forum. This has been a valuable resource for information on my projects. Looks like Mr. Ross has a history customer problems going back at least to 2012. I'd suggest opening CB and do a search for john-ross. Might do well to make a history.

I suggest stop screwing around and get connected with an agency that has some muscle. That's why you need information from the CB search plus you personal history. Don't write a novel. Need dates etc not rants. After looking briefly at CB posts etc. my feeling is guy's wiring has been pulled loose. Remember, you are dealing with governmental agencies whose purpose is to get you to go someplace else for help.

If you are dealing with a sociopath shaming them is urinating up a rope. This shaming issue will get cured with another generation of lies.

I have searched all sites/threads including CB going back to 2011 about these issues. The one from 2011 is 27 pages long with 10-15 people in a group buy. 10-15 buys if I were selling would result in a page or two at most saying payment/ffl received gun sent immediately after.
 
Absolutely zero. He won't reply to certified letter, FB, email, text, phone at least from me.
You should try to get the CB thread reopened to tell everyone you still have not gotten your gun or a refund. The Mod/Owner can't be that crooked as to allow this to stand. After all, Ross lied on his forum which does make it his business.
 
AND FYI, John Ross did post in the previous thread and said he would be in contact with mtshooter. If you have new information WITH PROOF of the lack of contact after John Ross's posts here in that previous thread, please have that handy and send No_1 a PM with all the info you have...or have mtshooter PM No_1

thanks,
Jon
How in the world can you prove a negative. What kind of proof could be want? He look at the answer to my email that he didn't send! What a stupid statement, wow.
 
I’ve been a member over there for about 10 years now. It isn’t what it used to be. Many of the real experienced members have passed away or gone to another forum. It’s pretty cliquish these days.

That said, JonB in Glencoe seems to be one of the good guys. I wouldn’t give up on taking to him just yet.
 
Starting a thread at CB made problems. The suggestion was made to use private communications. JR has some support at CB that became very defensive.
There are some members of the tinfoil hat crowd that have to chime in on everything. I doubt many of them even know him.
 
As I said before, it's long past time to stop trying to do the internet justice thing and get the real justice involved. Couple pages back someone posted a link to lawyer referral in the offending party's area and that's where you should continue this discussion.

If you're uncomfortable with dealing with an out of state entity, I'd suggest engaging with a lawyer in your state who can better communicate with an attorney licensed to practice in Missouri. Yes, it will cost you money up front and your pistol is going to cost you more than you bargained for, but there's a caveat.

Lawyers aren't stupid, they know how these games are played and how it affects both their clients and their bottom line, so what they tend to do is to ask for damages that precalculate their expenses and fees as well as damages due you. It's part of their game, no choice but to accept it.

What that means is, should you opt for this method, the defendant will be served with a notice informing him of the pending action and expected damages until or unless he makes good on his end of the deal. Nine times out of ten, people in that position choose to settle out of court to avoid getting really screwed as they can be.

What you're doing right now, here and over at Cast Boolits, is potentially damaging your case and giving him ammunition for his defense. Forget 'internet shaming him', it'll only bite you in the behind when the dust settles.

Mods, for the OP's own good, I'd shut down this thread before it ends up playing into the opposing side's hand, because in cases like this, any and all communications related to the case can and will be brought to bear on both sides. Each declamatory statement posted, by both plaintiff and others, may be used against him and could quite possibly be used in a defamation counter suit, which would drag the whole process out even longer, given the interstate nature of the case.

This is just my two cents worth, but I hope OP chooses the right course of action. Good luck to you, sir
 
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