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Every news article calls it gun violence. How about the use of the words like " gun play"??

What causes all the "violence?? Drugs, Money, Gangs etc.

People dont want the Truth.

Steve S. said:

There were 25 shootings reported in Sf. Louis over this last weekend. It dawned on me that the word smithing of the reporting probably has a lasting influence on the psychology of the average viewer.
The shootings were reported on all of the local channels as a drumbeat of “gun violence” - not “human violence”, not “social violence”, not “behavioral violence”, not “cultural violence”, etc - the “gun” is the core word of the cause and by default, eliminates the human source of the outcome.
I guess if it is said enough, in a certain context, at a specific time, worded in a specific manner, anything can become the truth. Most people have such wonderful computers sitting on their shoulders and they just don’t get used - how can something so sophisticated be so easily influenced - sad, sad, sad.

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Calling it "Gun Violence" implies that the gun is at fault. It is necessary to word it this way in order to demonize inanimate objects (guns), and the people who own them. This influences others to have extremely negative feelings about them. Those negative feelings influence people's views and cause them to be more sympathetic toward "Gun Control" and more likely to vote for politicians who push for it. If they instead used the term "Gang Violence" it would be more accurate, since the gangs are the ones committing the violence, but that doesn't serve to further the disarmament agenda.

They should call it what it is.

Gang violence.

That needs to be the discussion at the forefront of these arguments. Violence by criminals (felons) with often stolen or illegally obtained guns and no regard for the law peddling illegal drugs on the street with no respect for human life.

Well, passing more laws that will only be followed by law abiding citizens will surely cure that.

Armored farmer said:

People dont want the Truth.

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More like they can't handle the truth; if it is in St. Louis, I will be willing to bet that a certain demographic is involved, something the D party will not want to admit. This is violence, regardless of the tool used; and as mentioned above, it is typically involving gangs and drugs.

It's easier to go after the means rather than the motives of the violence.

George P said:

More like they can't handle the truth; if it is in St. Louis, I will be willing to bet that a certain demographic is involved, something the D party will not want to admit. This is violence, regardless of the tool used; and as mentioned above, it is typically involving gangs and drugs.

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It's just not St. Louis.

Take any major metropolitan center. Take away the black on black violence and you'll find that the shooting rate goes WAY down. Call a spade a spade. It's young black males shooting/killing other young black males, and whatever other members of the black community that happens to be caught in the crossfire.

That same black community will get all up in arms when law enforcement shoots a young black male, almost always for valid reasons, yet cowers in the corner when it comes to doing something about the violence in their own backyard.

It's almost as if black lives don't matter a hill of beans if they are killed by another black. They only have value when they are killed by law enforcement. If that's not a double standard I don't know what is.

Political correctness is what keeps us from having an honest discussion about violence and/or race. It effectively silences the discourse. The only purpose for which is to silence political opponents, maintain status quo to keep the poor and disenfranchised voting Democrat and keep the fires of racial strife burning. THAT is what makes the left, those who continually preach "tolerance", the most racist group in America. The violence is not due to any particular race, it's the culture of those involved and you can't discuss that culture without addressing racial factors.

There's a saying that if you control the dialogue, you control the debate. Phrasing it as gun violence is intentional, as it feeds into the anti's goal of doing away with 2A rights.

Texas10mm said:

It's just not St. Louis.

Take any major metropolitan center. Take away the black on black violence and you'll find that the shooting rate goes WAY down. Call a spade a spade. It's young black males shooting/killing other young black males, and whatever other members of the black community that happens to be caught in the crossfire.

That same black community will get all up in arms when law enforcement shoots a young black male, almost always for valid reasons, yet cowers in the corner when it comes to doing something about the violence in their own backyard.

It's almost as if black lives don't matter a hill of beans if they are killed by another black. They only have value when they are killed by law enforcement. If that's not a double standard I don't know what is.

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Because the aggrieved family can sue and win money from the police; they can't from another drug dealer who would kill them for going to the police. The insanity that makes up the urban jungle is why I left as soon as I could.

The culture war is real. There’s a narrative (propaganda) that the ‘media’ isn’t going to deviate from.

Guns ... bad.

Confiscation of firearms from the unwashed majority and helping to eliminate our ability to effectively resist or defend ourselves is their stated goal. Anything that helps to demonize firearms and those that own and use them for defense helps to eventually realize their stated goal. Separating young people from the tradition of owning and using guns is another way of helping to realize that goal. Probably why getting young people into owning guns and shooting is the most important aspect of owning guns. Be an ambassador.

Same thing with it being socially unacceptable to speak your mind. If people are unable to hear ideas and if it becomes socially unacceptable to speak about or even listen to those ideas then there will be a huge loss of freedom in the United States across the board. Not just with Second Amendment issues.

Political correctness is tyranny with manners ~ Charlton Heston

Browning said:

Probably why getting young people into owning guns and shooting is the most important aspect of owning guns

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This right here. If we don't responsibly pass on the traditions, they will be lost. The people screaming for bans show, in their words, their complete ignorance on the subject, because they were never responsibly introduced to firearms. Some will never change, but some learn to appreciate or even enjoy shooting, once we quit yelling back and show them the appeal. If they won't listen, move along.

Years ago I watched a weekly televised “journalism” training course on public access TV. The instructor related that “journalists” need to use wording that follows the agenda of the agency that one is reporting for in order to be successful.
Examples given were using the name of the object involved versus the person involved. Instead of saying “Man shoots victim in robbery” the reporter should say “Gun used in robbery, victim shot”. OR “Man in SUV crashes into school bus” should be “SUV crashes into school bus”.

There were many more examples but it showed me that wordsmithing was being used to manipulate the way news is perceived by the public.

One statement that the instructor said over and over was “The First Amendment gives you the right to report the news the way you need it reported.” In other words, they feel they have the right to manipulate the news.

What you don't hear is the number of stabbings, strangling s, beatings, run over with a vehicle, and intentional overdoses that are in this same time frame. The city elders don't want people to think of their town as Sodom and Gomorrah. Which is many cases, it is, but those stories don't sell news copy; no tabloid effect.

Rule3 said:

Every news article calls it gun violence. How about the use of the words like " gun play"??

What causes all the "violence?? Drugs, Money, Gangs etc.

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Like 20 tons of cocaine? or $1.3 billion? One shipment like that is enough to fuel a lot of gangs for a long time. My libertarian sensibilities dissuade me from assenting to advocacy for the "war on drugs" without some rationalization, but if we use the opium trade in 19th century China as a lesson, we can learn that cocaine, heroin, and unregulated (illegal) fentanyl imports are probably not about the people's liberty. The violence their trade incites provides, among other things, an excuse to disarm the people.

Pat Riot said:

Years ago I watched a weekly televised “journalism” training course on public access TV. The instructor related that “journalists” need to use wording that follows the agenda of the agency that one is reporting for in order to be successful.
Examples given were using the name of the object involved versus the person involved. Instead of saying “Man shoots victim in robbery” the reporter should say “Gun used in robbery, victim shot”. OR “Man in SUV crashes into school bus” should be “SUV crashes into school bus”.

There were many more examples but it showed me that wordsmithing was being used to manipulate the way news is perceived by the public.

One statement that the instructor said over and over was “The First Amendment gives you the right to report the news the way you need it reported.” In other words, they feel they have the right to manipulate the news.

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That's how Goebbels was successful; you can Google famous quotes by him and the majority have to do with how to control the people or the press.

Rule3 said:

Every news article calls it gun violence. How about the use of the words like " gun play"??

What causes all the "violence?? Drugs, Money, Gangs etc.

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I would like to see the statistics on 'car violence' ? 'Fentanyl violence' ?

Walkalong said:

Cultural violence kills a lot of young people in this country, but the antis who pretend to care about young lives never address this tragedy at all.

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It doesn't fit their agenda; their voting bloc is too stupid to know and have been undereducated for decades - they believe what the MSM tells them

"Gun violence " isn't a real thing. Until that gets understood by the masses we're forever behind the ball.

Source of Violence: How about 60% from one large metropolitan area, Some friends live in areas where shooting goes on each evening. These injuries and fatalities are now taking a smaller and smaller piece in the local newspaper. How about some real figures.This means real figures and not cooked up propaganda.

Several years ago the police had a mass arrest of cocaine dealers in this area. There was a composite picture with cries of bigotry in the community. If you are going a arrest cocaine dealers go where cocaine dealer are.

If we are talking about terms how about looking up "weapon" and "firearm' in the dictionary. I love it when the Mall Ninja defends my firearm ownership rights.

Steve S. said:

It dawned on me that the word smithing of the reporting probably has a lasting influence on the psychology of the average viewer.

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Welcome to the world of the awoken!

No sarcasm intended...this is a revelation many people have not made.