Ammunition purchase in Ohio

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I purchased a 50 round box of 9mm and a 50 round of 45 acp from Point Blank today. Point Blank is located in Miamisburg Ohio. I was required to show my driver license. The person who checked me out side it was a new law. I have not heard anything about this.

I then went down the road 1 mile and bought the same type of ammo from Miami Armory, didn’t need to show my license just gave them my credit card.

Am I missing something? I’m 70 years old and look everyday of it so it can’t be a age issue. I Googled Ohio ammunition laws and didn’t see any new laws concerning ammo purchases.

Any thoughts?
 
Mil was correct. The clerk was incorrect about the law. Point Blank scans in your license for age verification. That was what I was told when I called them a few minutes ago. I guess I look younger then my 70 years. :)
 
As everyone else said, there is no law in Ohio requiring ID for ammo purchases. Sudafed, yes, 1000 rounds of green tips, no. :confused:
 
Uninformed employee confusing new company policy with new law?
Yeah, I’ll bet that’s it. It seems like it’s very common for gun shop employees to confuse company policy with the law. I suppose it’s because it’s not terribly important from management’s point of view to make the distinction when training a new retail employee.

For example, it’s not illegal (in most places) to take a return on ammo, and it’s also not illegal (in most places) for an individual to ship a gun directly to an FFL. But those are examples of common gun shop policies that often get confused with laws by many employees.
 
I don't do business with places that require my driver's license. There's no requirement in my state for me to do such. There's more than one online retailer that tries to do this. Good news is there are plenty of retailers: https://www.ammoseek.com

btw, I just ordered a case of ammo and it's over $45 for shipping, so I'm gonna start pushing for Helium ammo ... who's with me ?
 
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I like doing business with Point Blank. They are very friendly and I enjoy the indoor range. Having to have to sign for ammo reminds me of the late 60 when ammo had to be signed for. Having my license scanned is not a show stopper. Rather not but I try to support LGS. Thanks for the reply’s.
 
I won't let Walmart scan my license, and I give them a different DOB every time. One employee told me it's just for insurance, similar to one of our larger grocery stores that now sells beer and wine.
Those are the only two retailers that have required me to give them my license to scan, and Walmart is spotty and it depends on the clerk.
 
I understand a swipe at register for credit card, that info is bounced through servers etc. There is a merchant agreement between merchant and bank...

Scanning/swiping a DL and the info goes...where exactly? In order for the scan/swipe to verify ID, would the program that verifies have to come from the respective state agency .gov? Is it an instant verify, no retention of DL #?
 
DoubleMag, Point Blank said they keep the info from your license in case they need to prove to the gov. that it was legal to sell you the ammunition. Like I said in a previous post that this was the first time sense the late 60 that I was required to provide ID information.
 
“Our insurance co. requires it”, “it is a new law”, “we recommend (fill in the blank)”, etc - statements made to minimize or avoid confrontation - these proclamations add weight to requirements that may be otherwise challenged if explained at a lesser level - most of the time these statements are used to cover up other motives.
 
That happened to me at a new gun shop in Tarpon, Florida. I picked up a can of 556 ammo and when I got to the register the cashier asked for my DL. I said why and she replied for the computer system. I replied that I never gave my DL for ammo before and that I am paying cash! My friend was behind me so I gave him the ammo and cash to check out. All was good.. LOL
 
I would not give my license to be scanned. If that store feels their clerk is not bright enough to recognize a 70 year old person such as yourself is over 21, then they need to up their hiring requirements.

Credit card companies have all kinds of computer security algorithms in place and they still get hacked. How much security do you thing that range has in place to protect your sensitive information? How many employees have access? How many companies are they selling this info to?

You want a quick look at my license to assure I'm over 21? Maybe. No freaken way am I trusting them with retaining my personal information.
 
DoubleMag, Point Blank said they keep the info from your license in case they need to prove to the gov. that it was legal to sell you the ammunition.

Ditto.

As Nancy Reagan said "Just Say No."

That is a very weak policy no matter how you slice it.

There is a lot of personal data on your D.L. that is useful to someone that hacks the company computer or a dishonest employee steals it. Now that I know where you live and the fact you are a gunowner is valuable information to thieves. It is very likely the company selling the information to other companies.

Heck Kansas allows people to use their Social Security number as their D.L. License number. The misuse that is possible once I have your name, d.o.b., S.S. number, race, sex and address is staggering.
 
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And since the local police no doubt know what they're doing, how hard would it be to subpoena their info anytime the authorities feel like it.

The range is doing a wonderful job of creating a registry of local gun owners along with the calibers they shoot. The negative consequences are endless.

Paranoid, moi? lol
 
Anyone think of this..

I used to workout at a large rec center with an indoor pool. You sign in and they scan your drivers license. I asked why and they said it runs us through a sex offender database. Who knows, maybe they are checking for felons buying ammo? Dollar General got busted selling cigarettes to underage and asked my brother who is 40yo for his I.D every time he went in there. He told them he wasn't going to shop there anymore. I am always for consistency. If you check his I.D you better check mine. I don't let anyone have my license and when I go to Cabelas they get a different phone number every time.
 
Tried to put an ad in my local newspaper to sell a shotgun. The woman told me the ad had to include "must be 18 years old to purchase firearm". Informed her that there is no such law (that ads require that info), but told her it would be OK, but that I would not pay for the extra words. She insisted it is the law so I declined to run the ad. Went down the street and ran the ad in my local free Trading Post flyer. Just for fun, I went back to the newspaper and showed the gal my receipt and a copy of the ad. I suggested she call the sheriff and report this dastardly violation of the law. She was not amused, but I was.
 
Any retail establishment that requests my phone number or email address, I just shake my head no.
The last three shops I’ve worked at all asked for phone numbers and email addresses. This isn’t so we can breach the customer’s privacy or sell that information, but simply so we can contact a customer if needed. If a customer’s order comes in, or their gunsmithing work is done, or they ordered a gun online for transfer and the vendor didn’t include a contact number, or if they bought a gun and we later discovered a mistake on their paperwork. And the email address is used for two purposes: inform customers of our occasional sales, and also as a secondary contact for people who won’t answer their phones and don’t have voicemail set up (or their voicemail is full).

If a customer doesn’t want to give that info, we don’t require it of course (except for a phone number if the customer is buying a gun or dropping off gunsmithing), but it’s very helpful to be able to contact a customer in many situations. That’s the only reason we (and most shops probably) ask for that info. Heck, just last week I realized after the customer left that I forgot to apply their discount for being a member of a local sportsman’s club. So I called the customer back and gave them their discount over the phone with their credit card.
 
I can get a controlled substance at the pharmacy just by giving them my DOB. Same pharmacy requires me to provide them an ID to purchase a beer. Seems weird. Most places around here (NY) don't require age verification to buy ammo. Or maybe just not for me grayer hair and all.
 
Any retail establishment that requests my phone number or email address, I just shake my head no.

I don't remember but it wasn't Cabelas. Me and a friend (no seriously, not a masked story about me LoL) got items, went to register. She asked, ''address please?'' He said, ''7''. Next ? from clerk, he said kinda embarrassed like...''I'm homeless''

2 shades of red on that clerk's 20yr old face LoL
 
I've lived in Kansas for the last thirty years. Haven't used ss number for drivers license in the last twenty years. They can look at my license but they are not scanning it. I'm in my mid 50's and look like Santa but still get asked for Id in one of the adult beverage stores I go to.
 
I'm in my mid 50's and look like Santa but still get asked for Id in one of the adult beverage stores I go to.
Ha! I’m 71 and my wife is not that far behind. And my wife actually thanks the clerk for “carding” her when she buys an “adult beverage.”:D
But just to keep this gun related, Mrs. .308 Norma bought herself a Smith M&P 380 Shield at Cabela's/Bass Pro a few months back. Rather than doing the phone-in background check, Cabela's/Bass Pro made a photo-copy of her CCW License. That's what Cabela's has done every time I, myself have purchased a gun at one of their stores in the last few years.
I don't remember ever having to show ID for purchasing ammo anywhere though. But like I said, I'm 71 - maybe my memory is not as good as it used to be.:)
 
Thanks everyone for the replies. Guess I will have to take a lesson from the wife and learn to say no. :).
 
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