Has any cartridge rose as fast as the 6.5 Creedmoor has

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South Prairie Jim said:
A couple posts have abbreviated Creedmoor to CM
To be clear these are two entirely different cartridges, the Creedmoor parent case is a 30 TC whereas the Competition Match (CM) has a 243 Winchester parent case.
Just saying
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Kinda like clarifying in a conversation about American history, that using the initials “GW” is meant to refer to “George Washington,” rather than “Geoff Williams.”

Just sayin’...
 
Varminterror said:
Kinda like clarifying in a conversation about American history, that using the initials “GW” is meant to refer to “George Washington,” rather than “Geoff Williams.”

Just sayin’...
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I was being serious in an effort to help new shooters, now tell me how people know or new the difference.
I’m not sure how to interpret your remark, maybe you should clarify.
J
 
Elkins45 said:
I wasn’t around to know how fast it took now-ubiquitous rounds like the 223, 308 and 30-06 to gain popularity. I suspect those would be the most likely contenders for fast adoption.
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The 4 rounds you mentioned, IMO, have significant events and timing that helped their popularity rise:

.40 was clearly the Miami shootout and FBI adoption

30-06 was the flood of WWII guns and servicemen who used them to great affect

.223 was the Assault Weapon Ban”s sundown and the rise of the MSR

The .308 was the fact that with the rise of the MSR, the .308’s short action could be chambered in an AR10

The fact that there was lots of milsurp ammo for .223 and .308 didn’t hurt.

These are not the only reason, and they may not be the most impactful, but they are certainly part of the story.

As far as the 6.5 CM goes, I simply don’t know that world very much other than it’s got excellent ballistics. But surely there are others as good?

I’m an old 30.06 and 22-250 fan who hunted mostly with a 7MM, so what do I know?
 
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South Prairie Jim said:
A couple posts have abbreviated Creedmoor to CM
To be clear these are two entirely different cartridges, the Creedmoor parent case is a 30 TC whereas the Competition Match (CM) has a 243 Winchester parent case.
Just saying
J
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Is there a 6.5 Competition Match or 6.5CM? If not, you have no relevant point to make since this discussion is about the 6.5 Creedmoor and not the 6mm Creedmoor.
 
MCMXI said:
Is there a 6.5 Competition Match or 6.5CM? If not, you have no relevant point to make since this discussion is about the 6.5 Creedmoor and not the 6mm Creedmoor.
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Thank you for your comments,
To stay relevant to the the thread (has any cartridge rose as fast as the 6.5 Creedmoor) two cartridges come to mind rising quickly and dominating to this day.
#1 6 ppc
#2 6 Norma BR
J
 
South Prairie Jim said:
A couple posts have abbreviated Creedmoor to CM
To be clear these are two entirely different cartridges, the Creedmoor parent case is a 30 TC whereas the Competition Match (CM) has a 243 Winchester parent case.
Just saying
J
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Only thing that comes up on 6.5 Competition match search is 6mm competition match.
Search 6.5 CM and 6.5 Creedmoor pops up everywhere.
Like arguing that a pickup isn't actually a truck. It's a generally accepted and isn't going anywhere.
 
Bfh_auto said:
Only thing that comes up on 6.5 Competition match search is 6mm competition match.
Search 6.5 CM and 6.5 Creedmoor pops up everywhere.
Like arguing that a pickup isn't actually a truck. It's a generally accepted and isn't going anywhere.
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My post wasn’t ment to be argumentative nor derailing of a thread.
Forgive me for interrupting , y’all carry on and have a great day
 
earlthegoat2 said:
But so many are talking about the 6mm CM and its superiority....

Its pretty popular around here but not too many are using it for hunting for some reason or another. Probably because they have too much money tied up into the thing to get it messed up in the woods.
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It doesn't have advantages for hunters shooting game out to 300 yards, or so. The 6mm Rem and .243 Win have velocity advantages at most of our hunting ranges, along with flatter trajectory at those ranges, IMHO. Someone once said that "speed KILLS" and I don't want to give up my killing power at short to medium range, because I'm never going to shoot at a deer with a 6mm beyond 300 yards, and certainly wouldn't let anyone in my party try it with a 6mm.

The big advantage is for those who target shoot at longer ranges and use heavier (slower) bullets that are stabilized with the faster twist of the 6mm CM. You get your sight setting and shoot away. There's no estimating range and figure holdover, or set up a zero that stays within the kill zone out to 300 yards, like I do with my best hunting rounds.
 
South Prairie Jim said:
I was being serious in an effort to help new shooters, now tell me how people know or new the difference.
I’m not sure how to interpret your remark, maybe you should clarify.
J
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The Comp Match is, was, and always will be an obscure round. Nobody cares if it was around first in a few hundred rifles. If you say “6.5CM” or “6CM” in the context of firearms in 2019, nobody except maybe yourself, will perceive it as anything except CreedMoor .
 
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I have found it to be quite funny over the years the differing opinions towards a new rifle cartridge being brought to the market place. I've only been shooting rifles for about 46 years,and on almost every firearms forum on the internet there is at least one thread complaining about the 6.5 Creedmoor's popularity.

I happen to really like the 6.5 Creedmoor,and have been shooting it since 2009. It's a great cartridge for almost any type of shooting,it has good speed,a great selection of bullets to choose from,can be loaded with a bunch of gun powders,and is accurate with almost any combination you try with it.
I've built 4 of them,as well as my latest chambered in 22 Creedmoor. I have never shot any factory ammo out of mine,so I can't comment on how they shoot with that.

The 6.5 Creedmoor isn't a miracle cartridge,it does things better than some,and worse than other's depending on what the shooter/hunter is trying to accomplish. I target shoot out to a mile with mine,and also hunt hogs,coyotes,and deer with them. For larger game,I choose to use a better cartridge,I'm not saying the 6.5 Creedmoor can't do the job,I just have many other better choices to pull out of the safe that work better on elk,moose,etc.

Then you have the crowd that tries to claim the 260 Remington & 6.5 x 47 Lapua is better than the 6.5 Creedmoor. I'm sorry,but they are all so close in every category of shooting you can throw out there.I shoot a 260 Remington in a DPMS large frame AR,and built a 260 AI bolt action also. Other than the 260 AI having a velocity advantage,it isn't any better,my 6.5-06 will beat anything it can do with the same bullet..

We,as shooter's are lucky that we all have the choices of cartridges today to shoot. If you don't care for the Creedmoor family that's just fine by me.
Shoot what you like,and quit complaining about the 6.5 Creedmoor!
 
6.5 cm was the perfect storm.

2007. 2008
Illinois senator by the name of body odor.

Magpul 308 pmags taking off

Long distance shooting getting popular.

6.5 is a good short action round. 308 works better on long action.
 
horsemen61 said:
Ok folks
Quick question can you remember any cartridge that has rose to fame as fast and stayed as hot as the 6.5 Creedmoor?
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Just to name two, the .40 Smith & Wesson took off quickly and had a good long run. And of course the introduction of the 30-30 Winchester made the whole Creedmoor "fad" look like a blip on the radar.
 
The .222 Rem was such a sensation that other other gunmakers quickly offered it in their rifles. And that was in 1950, before the internet.
 
horsemen61 said:
Quick question can you remember any cartridge that has rose to fame as fast and stayed as hot as the 6.5 Creedmoor?
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Like mentioned the 40 S&W. Not mentioned was the 17HMR, that round filled the pages of the gun magazine for a long time while rifle makers made as many as they could turn out. I got tired of reading about it. I like 6.5mm rounds but I like the old versions with 165gr bullets for use on the large African game. I guess I have read too much Finn Aagaard.
 
horsemen61 said:
Quick question can you remember any cartridge that has rose to fame as fast and stayed as hot as the 6.5 Creedmoor?
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Here we go again. Yet another of these "The 6.5 Creedmoor is the best cartridge in the world." threads.
The same thread pops up every week by the same people with a different title, in hopes that it becomes a mutual admiration society meeting.
 
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Old Stumpy said:
Here we go again. Yet another of these "The 6.5 Creedmoor is the best cartridge in the world." threads.
The same thread pops up every week by the same people with a different title, in hopes that everyone in hopes that it becomes a mutual admiration society meeting.
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Seemed more like an honest question. Maybe you just hate the 6.5CM and your bias is showing.
 
I know it’s an oldie but I’d bet .22 long rifle enjoyed a meteoric rise back when. I should also think most households that could afford one had a 12 ga as soon as possible.

As this thread has nothing to do with my individual musings on the 6.5 Creedmoor, I will refrain from wasting cyber ink toward that purpose.
 
I heard of the name before, but I knew nothing about it until now when I read info in Wilkipedia. I guess it's ok cartridge and another option is useful to have. I have a "Meat Hunter" mentality I like calibers for which there are sales for ammo at beginning of hunting season meaning box of quality soft points is less than 20 dollars per box is .308, 30-06, .30-30. Is this bad?
 
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