M@P 2.0 barrel length 4.25 yes or no to buy?

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Was thinking in buying a M@P 2.0.
Question are the trigger on the 2.0 do they need the Apex upgrade.
I like to add the 9 mm to my IDPA matches.
I now run the Glock 17 gen 4 .
My round count on the Glock close to 8,000 never a hecup.
My trigger yep has some work done breaks at 3 lbs.
I did some research on Apex upgrade man looks like it takes some time to complete.
I like to here pro or cons on the M@P 2.0.
 
I have an M&P 2.0 compact & I like the trigger on it. The thing is I don't have any experience with the Apex trigger nor do I own a trigger gauge so I am probably not much help. Is there a gun shop near you where you could possibly handle and dry fire a 2.0 & check the trigger out.
 
Same for me; I like the curved trigger; it is fairly smooth; no it isn't a Colt Gold Cup, but it is better than the stock Glock
 
Mine is a good shooter with the stock trigger. I have no complaints. It's one of my favorite polymer service pistols.
 
I've had both. I didn't like the original trigger at all. The 2.0 guns are night and day different. I can live with that trigger out of the box.
 
Was thinking in buying a M@P 2.0.
Question are the trigger on the 2.0 do they need the Apex upgrade.
I like to add the 9 mm to my IDPA matches.
I now run the Glock 17 gen 4 .
My round count on the Glock close to 8,000 never a hecup.
My trigger yep has some work done breaks at 3 lbs.
I did some research on Apex upgrade man looks like it takes some time to complete.
I like to here pro or cons on the M@P 2.0.

Just a thought, but if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. If you already run a G17 and it’s never had a hiccup, instead of buying another platform, why not just buy more ammo and keep perfecting your time with the Glock? Or did I miss something?
 
I have a shield in 9 mm older model will say the 1.0 model.
The trigger breaks at 5 1/2 on clean like glass.
The Glock even with the upgrade has a slight wall or one could say a roll before the break.
The shield fits my hand like a glove.
The Glock grip gen4 I like compared to the earlier models.
 
Was thinking in buying a M@P 2.0.
Question are the trigger on the 2.0 do they need the Apex upgrade.

I now run the Glock 17 gen 4.
At least on the internet gun forums, the majority of folks that think the M&P triggers are awful are folks that were previously Glock shooters. There must be some characteristic the Glock trigger has, that they like, that the M&P doesn't have, or something on the M&P that they hate, that the Glock doesn't have.

You'll get 1911 guys asking what polymer gun should I switch to if I want to leave the 1911, and you'll get bunches of recommendations for the M&P (maybe the most recommended poly gun by 1911 folks), and most other's don't complain that much about M&P triggers, but get the Glock guys going and you'd think the M&P trigger is the worst trigger ever made.
 
I can tell you the trigger on my M&P45 2.0 is very nice indeed. It is light, short enough and has a great reset.
 
I have owned a few M&Ps... I don't have a problem with the stock trigger on the Shield 1.0 or any of the Shield 2.0 and M&P 2.0s. They are duty grade triggers that will allow you to get on target in a self defense situation. With that said, I do have the APEX trigger on two of my M&Ps, and I do like them better than the stock triggers of all the popular striker fired pistols on the market that I've tried. The M&P 2.0 does not "need" an APEX trigger, but they are an improvement over the stock trigger.
 
I did some research on Apex upgrade man looks like it takes some time to complete.
I like to here pro or cons on the M@P 2.0.

The Apex trigger isn't hard to install at all grated you have the right tools... It's pretty simple and straight forward. Shouldn't take more than 30 mins if that... The only catch is you have to remove The rear sight. I have a Wheeler sight pusher which made the job easy. I've used it to switch out and swap sights between several handguns since I purchased it a year ago. It'll more than pay for itself.
 
At least on the internet gun forums, the majority of folks that think the M&P triggers are awful are folks that were previously Glock shooters. There must be some characteristic the Glock trigger has, that they like, that the M&P doesn't have, or something on the M&P that they hate, that the Glock doesn't have.

Biggest thing is that the S&W M&P has a bit of an indistinct reset, with a tiny bit of a false hitch that could fool someone who is riding the reset really closely into thinking the trigger is ready to go again.

Like a bunch of other Glock stuff, Glock made their product and then used marketing to convince people that the "right" way to use a pistol was the way that Glocks are designed. Glock made a pistol without a manual safety, and then convinced half the shooting world that a gun with a safety would get you kilt in da streetz. Glock made a pistol with mushy, dingus-ed trigger and convinced the world that the most important trigger characteristic was a click-y reset because we should all ride the reset.

I disagree with both of these notions. But people who have bought into Glock's marketing/arguments will find safeties annoying and triggers without a click-y reset to need a replacement trigger.
 
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Biggest thing is that the S&W M&P has a bit of an indistinct reset, with a tiny bit of a false hitch that could fool someone who is riding the reset really closely into thinking the trigger is ready to go again.

Like a bunch of other Glock stuff, Glock made their product and then used marketing to convince people that the "right" way to use a pistol was the way that pistols are supposed to be used. Glock made a pistol without a manual safety, and then convinced half the shooting world that a gun with a safety would get you kilt in da streetz. Glock made a pistol with mushy trigger, dingus-ed trigger and convinced the world that the most important trigger characteristic was a click-y reset because we should all ride the reset.

I disagree with both of these notions. But people who have bought into Glock's marketing/arguments will find safeties annoying and triggers without a click-y reset to need a replacement trigger.
I agree 100% especially with the " riding the reset" part...
 
Biggest thing is that the S&W M&P has a bit of an indistinct reset, with a tiny bit of a false hitch that could fool someone who is riding the reset really closely into thinking the trigger is ready to go again.

Like a bunch of other Glock stuff, Glock made their product and then used marketing to convince people that the "right" way to use a pistol was the way that Glocks are designed. Glock made a pistol without a manual safety, and then convinced half the shooting world that a gun with a safety would get you kilt in da streetz. Glock made a pistol with mushy, dingus-ed trigger and convinced the world that the most important trigger characteristic was a click-y reset because we should all ride the reset.

I disagree with both of these notions. But people who have bought into Glock's marketing/arguments will find safeties annoying and triggers without a click-y reset to need a replacement trigger.

I am familiar with the complaint about not being to feel the reset on the original M&P trigger but I can feel the reset on my 2.0 M&P compact. As I stated in my earlier post I haven't shot an original M&P but from what I have been told & what I've read I believe the 2.0 trigger is a different animal from the original trigger. Have you shot a M&P 2.0?
 
I am familiar with the complaint about not being to feel the reset on the original M&P trigger but I can feel the reset on my 2.0 M&P compact. As I stated in my earlier post I haven't shot an original M&P but from what I have been told & what I've read I believe the 2.0 trigger is a different animal from the original trigger. Have you shot a M&P 2.0?

I haven't. I didn't find the trigger on my 1.0 all that bothersome... as plastic-framed striker-fired guns go. I'm a trigger-slapper at speed, and don't bother riding the reset, so it wasn't an issue for me. The sproingy-ness of the "wall" before the sear release wasn't a great source of joy, but, again, that's common to most striker-fired guns. I express no opinion about the 2.0 trigger.

I was mainly responding to the observation that the Glockophiles will raise this reset objection about a variety of guns, including the M&P, because Glocks are click-y on the reset. Because Glocks are click-y, being click-y must be perfect, right?
 
I haven't. I didn't find the trigger on my 1.0 all that bothersome... as plastic-framed striker-fired guns go. I'm a trigger-slapper at speed, and don't bother riding the reset, so it wasn't an issue for me. The sproingy-ness of the "wall" before the sear release wasn't a great source of joy, but, again, that's common to most striker-fired guns. I express no opinion about the 2.0 trigger.

I was mainly responding to the observation that the Glockophiles will raise this reset objection about a variety of guns, including the M&P, because Glocks are click-y on the reset. Because Glocks are click-y, being click-y must be perfect, right?

LOL! I do respect Glocks but you're cracking me up. If you are close to Atlanta & decide you want to try out a 2.0 trigger send me a PM. I'm not sure when or where we could meet but I'd let you run a few rounds through & see what you think.
 
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